Towing Capacity/Enough Truck?

[DanD]

Currently own a Raptor 300MP. Have been offered a real good deal from my dealer on a 2010 Raptor 3812TS. My tow vehicle is a 2010 F350 6.8 liter (unsure if a 4.1 or 4.3 Axle). Have tried to follow some other threads on here to figure out if I have enough truck to pull the 3812(wt. 13229). I do have alot of stuff I pack in the camper and on occassion will haul one or two Harleys. Can someone give me some advice or a formula for figuring this so I can make a decision on whether or not to get this camper. Thanks in advance.

Dan

[dave-g]

Look here-
http://www.ford.com/assets/pdf/towing/10FLMrvSUPERDUTYsep09.pdf

looks like a 350 maxes out at about 17,000 lbs depending on options. But what will get you is payload.

payload is the weight in the bed- max about- 3000-3800. many of these raptors are over the. but pay load includes passengers.

Remember- the trailer manafactures are all ways light, and you will pack much more than you think.

For me filling my water tanks adds 800 lbs alone. other camping stuff 500+ easy.

If its a good dealer maybe they will let you go to a local scale to see what it really weights. If so measure the weight of each axle of you truck.

[DanD]

Thanks Dave. These are the numbers I have come up with or found. Just not sure what to do with them in order to determine if I am okay or not.

Ford F350 super duty single axle 6.8 liter
GVWR: 11,000 pounds
Slider Hitch: guessing 300 pounds
Passengers: 4 adults 750 pounds(guessing)
Full fuel tank: 25 gallons 211 pounds

From the owners manual the GCWR: is 21000 to 2300 pounds depending on 4.1 or 4.3 rear end

Raptor 3812ts:
weight: 13229
cargo weight: 4771
hitch weight: 2980

What do I do with all these numbers in order to determine what I need.

Thanks again

[cumminsdad08]

i would think that you are going to be in a little trouble there. if you can have a payload of around 3000-3800 (kinda broad), between your hitch, trailer pin weight, and fuel, that will about put you at your load limit, considering that you keep the trailer on the light side. so it doesn't leave much room for error here. if i were you i would consider upgrading your truck or degrading your trailer. i am only going off the info that is posted up here. i am no expert at this.

[jerseyphil]

Thanks Dave. These are the numbers I have come up with or found. Just not sure what to do with them in order to determine if I am okay or not.

Ford F350 super duty single axle 6.8 liter
GVWR: 11,000 pounds
Slider Hitch: guessing 300 pounds
Passengers: 4 adults 750 pounds(guessing)
Full fuel tank: 25 gallons 211 pounds

From the owners manual the GCWR: is 21000 to 2300 pounds depending on 4.1 or 4.3 rear end

Raptor 3812ts:
weight: 13229
cargo weight: 4771
hitch weight: 2980

What do I do with all these numbers in order to determine what I need.

Thanks again

Wow. Factory hitch weight of 2980 is dry weight. No water. no Propane. Add in the F350's passengers, fuel, and hitch, and you're going significantly over truck payload spec. By the way, weight in the rear of your toy hauler will reduce some weight on the pin due to leverage at the axles. BUT, adding weight in the front storage will add lots on the pin. So, just from the standpoint of payload, I think you've got problems with that combo.

[Me.Bikes.Dogs]

Dan, the hitch weight spec on any Toy Hauler is always high. By design when you add toys to the back the hitch weight drops to be within the 10-15% design spec. Of course this depends on the weight of the toys and the weight of the other things you put in the front of the trailer. My 300MP has about 1200 lbs. of toys in the back which lightens the hitch weight. I pull it with a RAM 3500 DRW. I've never weighed it but it pulls like a dream so I'm pretty sure it's balanced well.

If you don't have something with some weight in the back, you will be pushing the hitch weight limits.

[dave-g]

Slider Hitch: guessing 300 pounds
Passengers: 4 adults 750 pounds(guessing)
Full fuel tank: 25 gallons 211 pounds
= 1261 plus 2900 for trailer- about 4200 lbs in your truck. maybe 1000 lbs over weight. (truck payload)

by the numbers- don't do it. But I sure there are a lot of truck out there doing it.

Short trips my be ok but in the long run you will have problems with spring, and handling.

[DanD]

Thank all of you for your advice. It was greatly appreciated. Great website!

[CWtheMan]

Even with the 4.3 and 23K GCWR, simple math will show you how far over weight you can get. The 18K trailer and 11K truck = 27K GCWR. Sorry, I think your trailer’s weight potential is too great for the SRW truck. Load it up and take it to some scales. Your answer will be in the figures.

CW

[LittleJoe]

What DOT looks at is axle weight. As long as you are not over your axle weight rating on any axle and not over your tire carrying max weight, you are legal.

That said, it does not mean it will be an enjoyable talk piloting a setup that is pushing everything to the limit.

Only real way to know is scale it.