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the sodfather
08-25-2017, 06:08 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marc...-business.html

If you had a business that sells RVs and RV parts, you'd THINK he'd know that most of his customers are older, more conservative, and have disposable income. Not to mention that Camping World sponsors NASCAR truck series.

I predict Camping World will take a big hit...and Gander Mt (outdoors) too for that matter.

5J's
08-25-2017, 06:18 PM
Yep, they've already lost my business. I think it would help if you knew the demographic of your customers before you make a politically charged statement. They will suffer from this but, if they do damage control and keep this from being large scale main stream media they may never really feel any affects. As for me, my cash won't go there.

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Gegrad
08-25-2017, 06:30 PM
Link doesn't work.

the sodfather
08-25-2017, 06:31 PM
Link doesn't work.

No idea why. It worked at 9:02 pm...

the sodfather
08-25-2017, 06:33 PM
Maybe try this...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marcus-lemonis-if-youre-ok-with-what-trump-said-dont-shop-at-my-business.html

Gegrad
08-25-2017, 06:41 PM
Second link worked. Yeah, saw that earlier this week. Just a bad decision all around. It's the reason Michael Jordan never said anything politically. When asked why he (may or may not have) stated "Because Republicans buy shoes too"

Companies trying to make money should know better than to alieniate half their fan base on either side.

chuckster57
08-25-2017, 06:48 PM
I see he tried to apologize later on. These days it seems like you can't "take it back".

Javi
08-25-2017, 07:13 PM
Ask the Dixie Chicks... :D

sourdough
08-25-2017, 08:32 PM
I've been a CW and Marcus Lemonis fan since I bought my last trailer and involved him in the messed up purchase process; he was great.

His interview is something I can't abide. He can apologize but that was simply because he knew he screwed up. His feelings about things are still the same - I have no use for it.

Just sent him a personal email describing my disappointment and disbelief at his comments...and my personal commitment to never see a CW again...which I love.

As was noted in another post, and as I told him, a successful business man needs to focus on his business and what he needs to do to grow it; not target 60% plus of his business base and tell them to never come back to his store - oh wait, I can do that....but it will be pretty painful. Political comments by business owners are just stupid.....

Dave W
08-26-2017, 04:19 AM
I was an early commenter on the RV Daily Report and FWIW, said goodby to Lemonis and CW. That report is a big cheerleader for him as well and may just dump it as well as his RV forum which I seldom visit anyhow as many folks there are kinda nasty.

Like Trump or not, Lemonis is a big time entrepreneur and should be aware of the public and shut up about politics. He has made mega bucks from the RV world and many don't share his sympathies (something like 64MM folks) Shooting yourself in the foot over political beliefs will not help his bottom line.

jsmith948
08-26-2017, 04:43 AM
Wellll - if everyone who says they are boycotting CW actually does so - I would expect to see more discounts and less crowded stores - it's all good for me - not to mention my admiration for Mr Lamonis's calling it what it is:D

fatcatzzz
08-26-2017, 04:55 AM
I've been a CW and Marcus Lemonis fan since I bought my last trailer and involved him in the messed up purchase process; he was great.

His interview is something I can't abide. He can apologize but that was simply because he knew he screwed up. His feelings about things are still the same - I have no use for it.

Just sent him a personal email describing my disappointment and disbelief at his comments...and my personal commitment to never see a CW again...which I love.

As was noted in another post, and as I told him, a successful business man needs to focus on his business and what he needs to do to grow it; not target 60% plus of his business base and tell them to never come back to his store - oh wait, I can do that....but it will be pretty painful. Political comments by business owners are just stupid.....

I would like to send him a email also, would you share the email address please?
Thanks

ken56
08-26-2017, 05:08 AM
Didn't Lemonis and Camping World appear on the Apprentice? People are free to express their sentiments, words have consequences. I really don't care if he doesn't like Trump, In my book that is still disrespecting the office of the President. He was elected, he is President. Period.

hankaye
08-26-2017, 05:18 AM
Howdy All;

First I didn't think Political was a good subject for a forum ...
conversations tend to go personal quickly. That said I just
look at who is doin' the reporting and how the slant goes
(generally), from that source.

hankaye

the sodfather
08-26-2017, 06:12 AM
Howdy All;

First I didn't think Political was a good subject for a forum ...
conversations tend to go personal quickly. That said I just
look at who is doin' the reporting and how the slant goes
(generally), from that source.

hankaye

I am 100% sure I put nothing political in the post, but I'll check again....nope. Nothing political. Just my opinion on his statement.

sourdough
08-26-2017, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=fatcatzzz;253978]I would like to send him a email also, would you share the email address please?
Thanks[/QUOTE@


The email address I have is one that was provided to me during a situation with CW years ago and isn't his published email. That said, I believe his published email address is [email protected]. He does respond....he responded to mine at 12:03am this morning......

I also agree with the previous post about trying to insert politics into the forum - especially nowadays. The OP posted this as an observation about poor business decisions IMO. It IS a very poor business practice to insert politics into your daily business operations and it's sad to see that Lemonis has done that.

srvnt
08-26-2017, 09:21 AM
What a jerk marcus is, this idiot lost my biz but no worries CW isn't anything special. Good to see his true side exposed.
#MAGA #AMERICAFIRST #BUYAMERICANHIREAMERICAN

fatcatzzz
08-26-2017, 11:34 AM
[The email address I have is one that was provided to me during a situation with CW years ago and isn't his published email. That said, I believe his published email address is [email protected]. He does respond....he responded to mine at 12:03am this morning......

I also agree with the previous post about trying to insert politics into the forum - especially nowadays. The OP posted this as an observation about poor business decisions IMO. It IS a very poor business practice to insert politics into your daily business operations and it's sad to see that Lemonis has done that.

I agree that politics should be avoided on the forum, that said. FWIW I think everyone should call there own balls and strikes. What ever side of the fence you are on. People should make their view know, especially when they are asking you spend money at their establishment. This was a BAD decision on for Marcus to inject his political views into his business. I am afraid He will pay a price, for how long is any ones guess.
BTW thanks for the email address.

Javi
08-26-2017, 12:22 PM
I agree that politics should be avoided on the forum, that said. FWIW I think everyone should call there own balls and strikes. What ever side of the fence you are on. People should make their view know, especially when they are asking you spend money at their establishment. This was a BAD decision on for Marcus to inject his political views into his business. I am afraid He will pay a price, for how long is any ones guess.
BTW thanks for the email address.

There is nothing in CW, GS or any of his other businesses that I cannot get otherwise, for the same price or less... So it will not bother me to no longer shop with him... Now if he buys Bass Pro or Cabela's... I may have to rethink that... :D

2 Good Life
08-26-2017, 12:40 PM
I have been a long time RV'r and will no longer buy from Camper world!

kfxgreenie
08-26-2017, 01:36 PM
Just out of curiosity how many have watched the whole Video and understand the context in which the "quote" was derived from? In the video he is clearly in favor of many policies that relate to the current administration, his issue comes from when the POTUS made comments on the "two sides" IMO he is saying anyone who believes in White Supremacy does not need to shop his business. This is something that I believe was taken out of context by MSNBC to show that the Business world is now running from the current Administration. Anyway I do believe anyone in business should leave politics aside, and if you watch the Video even Marcus agrees, he just draws a line. :popcorn:

gearhead
08-26-2017, 02:21 PM
They can bring politics into their businesses all they want. It's fine with me. It's stupid to do it, but what ain't stupid these days? If I agree with them, OK. If not, adios. In this case..adios.

Desert185
08-26-2017, 02:33 PM
Will add CW to the list with Starbucks, Gander Mountain, Time, CNN, CNBC, PMSNBC, RT, Al Jazeera, Mexico, Airbus aircraft and Target. Buh-bye...

One more step in the process to simplify life.

Javi
08-26-2017, 02:34 PM
Just out of curiosity how many have watched the whole Video and understand the context in which the "quote" was derived from? In the video he is clearly in favor of many policies that relate to the current administration, his issue comes from when the POTUS made comments on the "two sides" IMO he is saying anyone who believes in White Supremacy does not need to shop his business. This is something that I believe was taken out of context by MSNBC to show that the Business world is now running from the current Administration. Anyway I do believe anyone in business should leave politics aside, and if you watch the Video even Marcus agrees, he just draws a line. :popcorn:

In the original unedited interview he said that anyone who agreed with Trump's statement that both sides had blame in the tragedy should not shop in his businesses...

Well... both sides had blame... so adios...

He's tried several times to walk that back and is now saying that he let fear get the better of him and he didn't mean it that way... and he doesn't think we should take his mistake out on his employees....

Translate... pocketbook...

I'd like to say that I respect Mr. Lemonis as a businessman and I also respect his right to his opinion... I even applaud his strength to voice that opinion... I hope that he can respect and applaud my strength and commitment to my opinion...

notanlines
08-26-2017, 02:56 PM
I certainly do have a dog in this fight: men and women in our country have fought and died for our freedoms. Not the least important is freedom of speech. Let that freedom ring on all three sides, please.

fatcatzzz
08-27-2017, 01:37 AM
In the original unedited interview he said that anyone who agreed with Trump's statement that both sides had blame in the tragedy should not shop in his businesses...

Well... both sides had blame... so adios...

He's tried several times to walk that back and is now saying that he let fear get the better of him and he didn't mean it that way... and he doesn't think we should take his mistake out on his employees....

Translate... pocketbook...

I'd like to say that I respect Mr. Lemonis as a businessman and I also respect his right to his opinion... I even applaud his strength to voice that opinion... I hope that he can respect and applaud my strength and commitment to my opinion...

Well said, sir

JRTJH
08-27-2017, 06:56 AM
I get my news from newspapers (well, used to anyway) and I get my camping supplies from a camping store. I've never been one to want the opinions of people who sell me stuff (they live off my earnings, not the other way around) to tell me what to think or how to live or to "attack" my opinions on topics that aren't associated with the products they sell. I don't get financial advice from my butcher, I don't ask my doctor to make recommendations on which tires to buy for my trailer and I certainly don't need the CEO of a RV sales/service company telling me not to shop there because I don't share his personal views on what some politician may (or may not) have said.

CW's views on politics (whether they come from the top or from the corporate board room) have no place in telling their customers to "go shop somewhere else". But, since Lemonis was so "straight forward" with the suggestion, I'll be happy to oblige him. After all, there's enough RV stuff on Amazon and other internet stores that it's really not worth asking him to let me spend my money in his store after he's told me to go somewhere else. So, bye bye (not buy buy) Camping World.....

fatcatzzz
08-27-2017, 07:27 AM
I get my news from newspapers (well, used to anyway) and I get my camping supplies from a camping store. I've never been one to want the opinions of people who sell me stuff (they live off my earnings, not the other way around) to tell me what to think or how to live or to "attack" my opinions on topics that aren't associated with the products they sell. I don't get financial advice from my butcher, I don't ask my doctor to make recommendations on which tires to buy for my trailer and I certainly don't need the CEO of a RV sales/service company telling me not to shop there because I don't share his personal views on what some politician may (or may not) have said.

CW's views on politics (whether they come from the top or from the corporate board room) have no place in telling their customers to "go shop somewhere else". But, since Lemonis was so "straight forward" with the suggestion, I'll be happy to oblige him. After all, there's enough RV stuff on Amazon and other internet stores that it's really not worth asking him to let me spend my money in his store after he's told me to go somewhere else. So, bye bye (not buy buy) Camping World.....

:thumbsup:

B-O-B'03
08-27-2017, 08:52 PM
I get my news from newspapers (well, used to anyway) and I get my camping supplies from a camping store. I've never been one to want the opinions of people who sell me stuff (they live off my earnings, not the other way around) to tell me what to think or how to live or to "attack" my opinions on topics that aren't associated with the products they sell. I don't get financial advice from my butcher, I don't ask my doctor to make recommendations on which tires to buy for my trailer and I certainly don't need the CEO of a RV sales/service company telling me not to shop there because I don't share his personal views on what some politician may (or may not) have said.

CW's views on politics (whether they come from the top or from the corporate board room) have no place in telling their customers to "go shop somewhere else". But, since Lemonis was so "straight forward" with the suggestion, I'll be happy to oblige him. After all, there's enough RV stuff on Amazon and other internet stores that it's really not worth asking him to let me spend my money in his store after he's told me to go somewhere else. So, bye bye (not buy buy) Camping World.....

+1

I just don't understand the mentality for this type of thing.

Why can't people just take care of whatever it is they are supposed to and keep their politics to themselves?

Our kids bought us ticket to the recent Roger Waters concert in Dallas. I got an inkling of the tone, when he marched a bunch of kids onto the stage with "Resist" T-shirts on, right before the intermission... the second set went down hill quickly, as this British, rich, entertainer got deeper into denigrating the president of the President of the United States and... RICH PEOPLE (last I checked, he falls into that category?) anyway I told the DW I had had enough, she agreed and we told the kids we were leaving... I felt bad that they had spent over $150 apiece on the tickets and offered to pay them back, but I was out.

I came for music, not a political rally.

I'll add CW & GS to the pile with Roger, Seth Myers and most of those on Desert185's list.

It IS a free country, you can say whatever you like and I am free to spend MY money as I see fit and that might be influenced by what you feel free to say.

-Brian

theeyres
08-27-2017, 09:24 PM
I just don't get the controversy. He said that white supremacists, Nazi lovers can take their business elsewhere. I applaud him for that. Remember WWII? Why shouldn't a CEO express his/her views? Chick-Fil-A CEO expressed his view when he said married gays weren't welcome. THAT's the place I will never go. But he has a right to express his views.

jsmith948
08-28-2017, 03:56 AM
Opinions are like another part of the anatomy. Everyone has one. For me, I don't care what Marcus said. If I can get what I need at one of his stores cheaper and/or more conveniently - then, that's where I will buy it. As much as I'd like to think otherwise, the number of dollars I spend per year at CW will have little effect on their bottom line. It just isn't worth my time worrying about what other people say/do.

rjrelander
08-28-2017, 04:02 AM
I just don't get the controversy. He said that white supremacists, Nazi lovers can take their business elsewhere.

This is the statement that started the controversy:"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business." ~ Marcus Lemonis, 08/16/2017His original statement mentioned neither "white supremacists" nor "Nazi lovers". His apology letter implicitly added them (along with others on both sides) but none of his statements, including the original one, made an explicit reference to either.

Edit:

One more quote below from the previous day related to the "what has been said in the last couple days" quote above. This is part of President Trump's "fine people" statement which is taken out of context in most reports ..."You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too." ~ President Donald Trump, 08/15/2017The controversy comes from the implication (in Mr. Lemonis' original statement) that there exists some form of deep-rooted racism and hatred in people based on their being in favor of calling out the a$$hats on both sides or not standing up in solidarity with Mr. Lemonis and others, shouting "Harrumph!" while shaking their fists in the air.

Edit: Edit:

In case some people may not have read through Mr. Lemonis' apology letter, here is the key takeaway for those of us with our shields up:"I DO NOT apologize to anyone who is in favor or hate, violence, bigotry or racism. And I will do my part to help eliminate it from both sides. One way I do that is by being an example." ~ Marcus Lemonis, 08/23/2017Take it or leave it for what it is, an apology letter. Other than being an example, what CEOs can or should do is a completely different topic. Still not sure where I stand since I don't have a high level of trust in an apology letter issued under pressure a week later. Probably time to go out and inspect the roof of the trailer before it rains.

Desert185
08-28-2017, 10:39 AM
I just don't get the controversy. He said that white supremacists, Nazi lovers can take their business elsewhere. I applaud him for that. Remember WWII? Why shouldn't a CEO express his/her views? Chick-Fil-A CEO expressed his view when he said married gays weren't welcome. THAT's the place I will never go. But he has a right to express his views.

I'd like to see the subject quote. I don't recall those words. I just don't go to CFA on Sundays. :cool:

JRTJH
08-30-2017, 07:52 AM
I received the following response from Good Sam:

Hello John,

Thank you for contacting Good Sam. We appreciate your feedback and the time you took to make us aware of your concerns. Would it be alright if I sent you a letter written by our CEO Marcus Lemonis explaining the situation?

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to email me back directly or call Good Sam Member Services at 800-234-3450.

Thank you,

James

Good Sam Member Services
64 Inverness Drive East
Englewood, Co 80112

I've responded with a "Yes, You can send his letter to me". Not that it'll change my mind, I'm fairly stubborn that way, but I would like to see his "damage control response".....

sourdough
08-30-2017, 10:19 AM
I received the following response from Good Sam:

Hello John,

Thank you for contacting Good Sam. We appreciate your feedback and the time you took to make us aware of your concerns. Would it be alright if I sent you a letter written by our CEO Marcus Lemonis explaining the situation?

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to email me back directly or call Good Sam Member Services at 800-234-3450.

Thank you,

James

Good Sam Member Services
64 Inverness Drive East
Englewood, Co 80112

I've responded with a "Yes, You can send his letter to me". Not that it'll change my mind, I'm fairly stubborn that way, but I would like to see his "damage control response".....


After I contacted Mr. Lemonis he replied saying he was sorry he had disappointed me and sent an attachment. I am adding the link below; I figure it will be the same one they send to you;

https://www.facebook.com/marcus.lemonis/posts/1643363209015197

fatcatzzz
08-30-2017, 11:36 AM
After I contacted Mr. Lemonis he replied saying he was sorry he had disappointed me and sent an attachment. I am adding the link below; I figure it will be the same one they send to you;

https://www.facebook.com/marcus.lemonis/posts/1643363209015197

Form letter. Same one I got.

JRTJH
08-30-2017, 11:36 AM
After I contacted Mr. Lemonis he replied saying he was sorry he had disappointed me and sent an attachment. I am adding the link below; I figure it will be the same one they send to you;

https://www.facebook.com/marcus.lemonis/posts/1643363209015197

Thanks for the link and yes, that is the same response they sent me. It does little to resolve his "mis-spoken words".... The last thing I need (or want) is some "successful businessman" (more money than sense) lecturing me on what I'm supposed to believe or feel. The "feeling he conveyed" was that same "basket of deplorables" that came across "loud and clear" from another who envisioned taking our country in a different direction than I do. I haven't changed my mind, my Good Sam membership ends 3/2018 and I won't be renewing. I just bought some camping supplies on Amazon that I had previously been buying from CW. So, such is life, at least for me......

dcg9381
08-30-2017, 01:32 PM
think it would help if you knew the demographic of your customers before you make a politically charged statement.

The demographics don't matter. When you make any diversive statement like this, you're going to alienate at least some portion of customer base... That's why you shut up, smile, and talk about RV's - not religion or politics.

JRTJH
08-30-2017, 01:37 PM
The demographics don't matter. When you make any diversive statement like this, you're going to alienate at least some portion of customer base... That's why you shut up, smile, and talk about RV's - not religion or politics.

I started to click on the "thanks" button in your post, but thought that everyone, not just you, needed to know that I think what you said is "right on the money" and should be the "mantra" for any businessman. If you want me to spend my money to keep you in business, then don't belittle me or my beliefs, otherwise, I'll spend my money with your competition.

Thanks for posting the two "off limits topics": religion and politics......

instymp
08-30-2017, 01:58 PM
Any time you bring political opinions into your business, write off 40-50% of your customers. Unless you cater to one side of the isle.

LarrySharon
08-30-2017, 04:30 PM
HERE IS A EMAIL THAT I GOT THE OTHER DAY WHEN I REGISTERED MY CONCERN. sorry IT IS SO LONG.
When I came to this country as an infant I had no idea what would be in store for me. A place where most get a chance to succeed. With a loving family and a ton of luck I was given my shot. Now the road wasn't as easy as some think. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I was more fortunate than others in the sense of having two great parents, a roof, always food and clothing and provided a good education. During those years I had my own internal struggle like most do. Struggles that are kept secret in some cases and others than are out for all to see. As a kid, I was bullied. Now that doesn't make me special or require any special privilege but it does stick with you. As I grew up I knew I needed to be someone and do something. It was the only way I could prove to myself and others that I was worth more than they thought of me but quite frankly needed for my own mental health. I am much more insecure than people know. I get depressed, sad, scared etc. but who cares we all do. Over the last 15 years I have been blessed to be part of building a business with people that believed in me. Something new for me. I was given a chance to build something that I could leave as a lasting legacy. Even though I started experiencing success, I never quite felt fulfilled. It's not about the money. I felt like I needed to do more, to contribute more. Thru those years I made mistakes. A lot of them. Struggled with personal relationships, mistreated friends, etc. I suppose that's human but I couldn't understand why. The last five years I spent my time working on my business but also dedicated my life to small business. It was a way for me to help the underdog. I never did it for the money or the attention but rather to fill a void. I felt like I had to do it to payback a place that gave me a break. I made plenty of mistakes during this process as well. Trusted people who I shouldn't have, made deals I shouldn't have and sometimes did it for the wrong reason. But who cares, we all make mistakes. Over the last year I have, or at least I thought had, really grown. It's funny but in my mind, I had grown up. I felt like I needed to consider how serious things got around here. Everything became intense and confrontational. Skin started to thicken, tensions started to rise and heels dug in. I suppose it's more of a protective measure for me and probably others as well. Now in this moment no one person was to blame for this. I started having sensory overload. I'm sure over the last year I felt the need to be more careful, be less trusting and I maybe didn't even know it was happening. You watch tv and everyone is arguing. Yes, everyone. You drive in your car and everyone is aggressive. And mistakes are made. As a child being bullied didn't make me different or special it made me more sensitive, more forgiving, more focused and helping.
As I continued over the last several months to read, listen and observe I noticed that my conviction was weakening. I felt like I needed to just accept the way things are and move on. Which felt like a mistake.
If you have noticed I have said mistake a bunch of times and I'm sure there are typos and grammar mistakes all over this free form written document. Sometimes those mistakes come out of my mouth.
The mistake I made in the last week was not being clear.
Do I wish that there was more speed of clarity and conviction around the violence? Yes
Do I think that hate and violence has taken over everywhere, yes?
Do I think one person is to blame? No
Do I think that there are two sides to every story? Yes
While I stand strong on my position that violence, hate, bigotry is unacceptable from anyone regardless of what side you are on and that all of us need to be accountable, only I am accountable for my actions.
Last week I gave my opinion on what had happened. I made the mistake of letting my fear and emotion talk about subjects that I shouldn't have. As the CEO of a business, I am responsible to take care of the people that work there. I opened my mouth and put them in harm’s way. While I know, that the headline published was taken out of context and I have to live with that. there should have never been a headline and I gave a chance to live.
My apology is sincere. It is to my employees who have been forced to deal with this. I am nothing without you. I am here to serve, guide and protect you. I will work harder. Please forgive me. Please don't punish them.
I apologize to anyone who has supported their cause, their political preference, their candidate, their beliefs. I was Not raised this way and have always been taught to respect everyone. This is a free county and my fears shouldn't be projected on anyone. I am asking for your forgiveness. I should have not disrespected that and will not again.
I apologize to the people who have followed my show for years and have said they have learned so much and are inspired, who now say that have been let down and will never trust me again.
I DO NOT apologize to anyone who is in favor or hate, violence, bigotry or racism. And I will do my part to help eliminate it from both sides. One way I do that is by being an example. You are the reason I made this mistake. You took my common sense away and purpose. I will not let you beat me or beat me down.
I am a man of conviction. Most of the time it's what people like about me. In this case it's quite the opposite.
I have not written this because I worry about what it means to me financially, because that's normally the response I hear when I say I'm sorry.
I have written this because I know what has been my purpose up to now, which is to help people and I want to be able to continue that.
People make mistakes. Obviously, this past week I'm the poster child.
Sincerely from my heart,
Marcus Lemonis

JRTJH
08-30-2017, 05:28 PM
LarrySharon,

That is the same letter that I referenced, the same letter that sourdough linked and the same letter that fatcatzzz discussed. Nothing new there that isn't already linked and available in the responses in this thread.

Javi
08-31-2017, 04:05 AM
:horse:


As I said earlier... Ain't gonna spend another dime in CW, GS or any of his other businesses..

Funny thing... The DW said that she doesn't think he said those things even after listening to the interview several times... And that she will continue to go there... I said.... are you going to start driving ? :D

5J's
08-31-2017, 05:08 AM
The demographics don't matter. When you make any diversive statement like this, you're going to alienate at least some portion of customer base... That's why you shut up, smile, and talk about RV's - not religion or politics.

I started to click on the "thanks" button in your post, but thought that everyone, not just you, needed to know that I think what you said is "right on the money" and should be the "mantra" for any businessman. If you want me to spend my money to keep you in business, then don't belittle me or my beliefs, otherwise, I'll spend my money with your competition.

Thanks for posting the two "off limits topics": religion and politics......


I agree with you both 100%. The point I was trying to make is if you're going to make a statement, which you shouldn't, then you should at least know the audience you are serving.

dcg9381
08-31-2017, 09:08 AM
Thanks for posting the two "off limits topics": religion and politics......

I'll work on it... Thanks for reminding me.

JRTJH
08-31-2017, 09:37 AM
I'll work on it... Thanks for reminding me.

I wasn't criticizing, please don't take it that way !!!! :)

dcg9381
08-31-2017, 12:32 PM
10-4! (thanks for the clarification)

B-O-B'03
08-31-2017, 01:23 PM
The demographics don't matter. When you make any diversive statement like this, you're going to alienate at least some portion of customer base... That's why you shut up, smile, and talk about RV's - not religion or politics.

+1

The same goes for entertainers and sport figures, just do what we are paying you for and keep your opinions to yourself.

-Brian

LarrySharon
08-31-2017, 07:03 PM
LarrySharon,

That is the same letter that I referenced, the same letter that sourdough linked and the same letter that fatcatzzz discussed. Nothing new there that isn't already linked and available in the responses in this thread.

Sorry, didn't intend to offend you with an actual email that I received...:bow:

JRTJH
08-31-2017, 07:31 PM
Sorry, didn't intend to offend you with an actual email that I received...:bow:

No offense taken, it's just that the same letter had been posted 3 times (in links to the document) and one more time, well, how many "one mores" are necessary?

ADQ K9
09-19-2017, 08:41 AM
Will add CW to the list with Starbucks, Gander Mountain, Time, CNN, CNBC, PMSNBC, RT, Al Jazeera, Mexico, Airbus aircraft and Target. Buh-bye...

One more step in the process to simplify life.

PMSNBC !!!!!!! LOL love it Right there with you

Dave W
09-19-2017, 09:26 AM
I just trashed the current CW flyer and without doing any more then looking at the cover to see where it was from. :oI will admit to using my Good Sam card over the last month though as that 10% savings will go to parts purchases elsewhere, i.e AMAZON who's CEO is also another gov't/administration basher but not quite as visibly. I also no longer visit the GS RV forum (hadn't for a while as it gets nasty at times)

cardinal96ss
09-19-2017, 10:05 AM
We are done with Camping World. Since Good Sam is affiliated, done with them too.

kfxgreenie
09-25-2017, 05:26 AM
How many did not watch football yesterday? The NFL practically did the same thing as CW. The CEO of the business took a political stance and then many of the Franchise owners and employee's also took a stance. No matter how you look at it they alienated half of their customers.

fatcatzzz
09-25-2017, 05:57 AM
I did not watch football yesterday and won't as long as this crap is expressed during the game. Do the players have the right to protest, ABSOLUTLY, I just don't want to see it during the game. Just like I don't want to hear Marcus Lemonis spew his politics.

ncgrl1
09-25-2017, 06:44 AM
I suddenly feel like family! :USA:

kfxgreenie
09-25-2017, 06:47 AM
I did not watch football yesterday and won't as long as this crap is expressed during the game. Do the players have the right to protest, ABSOLUTLY, I just don't want to see it during the game. Just like I don't want to hear Marcus Lemonis spew his politics.

10-4 I agree 100%. Actresses and Actors have also turned my TV off plenty of times. I leave the TV on after the 10:00 P.M. weather as I fall asleep, but once the Colbert show comes on I can wake up from a dead sleep and shut that TV off.

sourdough
09-25-2017, 07:11 AM
I did not watch football yesterday and won't as long as this crap is expressed during the game. Do the players have the right to protest, ABSOLUTLY, I just don't want to see it during the game. Just like I don't want to hear Marcus Lemonis spew his politics.



Agree 100%! Folks get completely full of politics and "crap" from every direction every day. We (used to) turn on our favorite team to get away from it all and enjoy a good game. Now, the owners and league, want to interject that same vitriol into what is supposed to be a fun time to get away from it all. They can keep their games. I hope others do the same and just turn them off. They can have whatever views they want but they don't need to use the games as a way to voice them....or their contempt for the country.....or the flag.....JMO.

Edit: that comment was very close to political...sort of, but not meant that way. Just an observation about our current social situation and the way it tied back to the comments that Marcus Lemonis made.

Javi
09-25-2017, 07:15 AM
NFL.... Click... :USA:

Dave W
09-25-2017, 08:10 AM
Good ol' NFL (National Felons League??) lost my interest years back when they expanded to the point of insensibility. I would occasionally watch Monday night for a few minutes years back but even that bored me to great crocodile tears. Heck, I wont even watch the Superless Bowl. 300 pound, near 7 foot tall behemoths running into the like size on the other side just isn't fun any longer. Like or dislike Trump is a personal thing, but disrespecting our flag country is just plain stupidity with hundreds of thousands over the years giving their lives so these morons can live the mythical 1 percenter's life until they and their retinue pee it away.

Desert185
09-26-2017, 06:21 AM
Watch NFL? Not Frickin' Likely. You disrespect my flag or country and we're done.

:USA:

notanlines
09-26-2017, 06:38 AM
I suspect this discussion should slide back towards our polite treatment of Camping World and the CEO's statement or it will be in the well known trash can. I love heated debate as well as the next guy, but this won't fly.

chuckster57
09-26-2017, 08:20 AM
I suspect this discussion should slide back towards our polite treatment of Camping World and the CEO's statement or it will be in the well known trash can. I love heated debate as well as the next guy, but this won't fly.


I agree, and IMO it has run its course so I will close this thread.