6.5" rims

[captcolour]

Based on the "boom" thread, want to upgrade my Provider 235/85R16G to the Sailun's. Sailun's require the 6.5" wide rim. Current rims are 6".

Who sells 16x6.5" rims? I only found two:

http://www.ecustomrim.com/2-pack-aluminum-trailer-wheel-rims-16x6-5-modular-8-lug-on-6-5/

http://www.trailer-wheels.com/16x65-Aluminum-TR8-Trailer-Wheel-8-Lug-3960-lb-Max-Load_p_1240.html

Any help is appreciated.

[bsmith0404]

This is the same as the second one you posted, but it's the manufacturers website.

http://sendelwheel.com/wheels/tr8.html

[CWtheMan]

Alcoa has the 16x6.5" rims for the 4080# tires.

[Desert185]

This is the same as the second one you posted, but it's the manufacturers website.

http://sendelwheel.com/wheels/tr8.html

Those are wheels. He wants rims. :hide:

[CWtheMan]

In tire terminology, tire rim and tire wheel can mean the same thing in laymen language.

A valid overall measurement cannot be determined for a wheel without a rim.

In some instances a rim is described as a complete unit. At other times it's part of a unit that must be assembled.

[Outback 325BH]

The rim is part of the wheel. Referring to a wheel as rim is like calling a tire a sidewall or a tread or a steel belt.

Although the layman may use the terms interchangeably, they are different. If nobody every explains the difference the correct terminology will never be used.

These forums are a wealth of knowledge. Using correct terminology is a part of that knowledge. Or at least should be.


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[CWtheMan]

The rim is part of the wheel. Referring to a wheel as rim is like calling a tire a sidewall or a tread or a steel belt.

Although the layman may use the terms interchangeably, they are different. If nobody every explains the difference the correct terminology will never be used.

These forums are a wealth of knowledge. Using correct terminology is a part of that knowledge. Or at least should be.


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All true. But, knowing shop talk nomenclature also helps.

Here is a reference. It's up to the reader to judge the meanings.

http://www.easternmarine.com/14-15-and-16-Trailer-Tire-Rim/

[66joej]

The rim is part of the wheel. Referring to a wheel as rim is like calling a tire a sidewall or a tread or a steel belt.

Although the layman may use the terms interchangeably, they are different. If nobody every explains the difference the correct terminology will never be used.

These forums are a wealth of knowledge. Using correct terminology is a part of that knowledge. Or at least should be.


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Being a mechanic in my working life I was always a bit irked when someone would say "what size motor is in that car". It is in fact an engine. A motor is commonly known as an electric motor. One being reciprocating the other rotary. I was told that in no uncertain terms by the instructor at trade school back in 1965. :twocents:

[Desert185]

I'm going with MW.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rim

[bobbecky]

The wheels supplied for the Montana line are 6" wheels, rated 110 psi, and they install the 14 ply G614's as well as the Sailun S637 tires on these wheels. Both tires say the ideal width is 6.5", but no one has a problem using the 6" wheels with either of these tires.

[sourdough]

I know lots of folks that deal with wheels. Some call the entire thing a "wheel", some call it a "rim"....we all know what the other is talking about based on the conversation.

In lieu of that then?? The OP said he currently had 6" "rims" - that would be correct. He is looking for 6 1/2" rims - again correct. Are we saying he should further refine the statement to "looking for wheels with a 6 1/2" rim" to be correct, or are we referring to the Sendel site that calls all their wheels rims??
To me it's sort of like me telling the sales guy "that's my red Ram" and he says "no, it's flame red". I know what I'm talking about; he knows what I'm talking about; the "flame" clarifier wasn't needed.

I do think if we don't use correct terminology when appropriate it muddles the conversation. I don't think we should go overboard on a pretty benign thing like "rim" vs "wheel". JMO

[Outback 325BH]

I know lots of folks that deal with wheels. Some call the entire thing a "wheel", some call it a "rim"....we all know what the other is talking about based on the conversation.

In lieu of that then?? The OP said he currently had 6" "rims" - that would be correct. He is looking for 6 1/2" rims - again correct. Are we saying he should further refine the statement to "looking for wheels with a 6 1/2" rim" to be correct, or are we referring to the Sendel site that calls all their wheels rims??
To me it's sort of like me telling the sales guy "that's my red Ram" and he says "no, it's flame red". I know what I'm talking about; he knows what I'm talking about; the "flame" clarifier wasn't needed.

I do think if we don't use correct terminology when appropriate it muddles the conversation. I don't think we should go overboard on a pretty benign thing like "rim" vs "wheel". JMO



The terminology would be 6" (or whatever) wide wheels. Measurements are taken from rim to rim.

Nobody said it was a matter of life and death. Just pointing out the difference.

Just because you know what someone is talking about doesn't mean the term should continue to be used. It is like not correcting your kid when they use incorrect grammar or say words that do not exist. Just because you know what they are talking about doesn't mean to do not correct them.

And no, I'm not comparing anyone to children. Just trying to list an example.

Next up: saying "clip" when referring to "magazine"... LOL!

Another thread veering off track... sorry. [emoji846]


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[sourdough]

The terminology would be 6" (or whatever) wide wheels. Measurements are taken from rim to rim.

Nobody said it was a matter of life and death. Just pointing out the difference.

Just because you know what someone is talking about doesn't mean the term should continue to be used. It is like not correcting your kid when they use incorrect grammar or say words that do not exist. Just because you know what they are talking about doesn't mean to do not correct them.

And no, I'm not comparing anyone to children. Just trying to list an example.

Next up: saying "clip" when referring to "magazine"... LOL!

Another thread veering off track... sorry. [emoji846]


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"Next up: saying "clip" when referring to "magazine"... LOL!"

Now I DO agree with this one:) Back to regular programming.

[captcolour]

Just to clarify, I'm looking for 6.5" wide thingys you mount tires on. :)

[Desert185]

Just to clarify, I'm looking for 6.5" wide thingys you mount tires on. :)

http://sendelwheel.com (Not www.sendelrim.com)

They have pretty thingies. :)

[geobet]

All this nomenclature is making my head spin. I just got my 235/85/16 LRF, Carlisle Radial trail HD in - loaded them up and took to my tire guys. I sure hope they fit the rims on my Montana High Country.

[Outback 325BH]

All this nomenclature is making my head spin. I just got my 235/85/16 LRF, Carlisle Radial trail HD in - loaded them up and took to my tire guys. I sure hope they fit the rims on my Montana High Country.



The term "wheel" is making your head spin? LOL!


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[Bolo4u]

The rim is part of the wheel. Referring to a wheel as rim is like calling a tire a sidewall or a tread or a steel belt.

Although the layman may use the terms interchangeably, they are different. If nobody every explains the difference the correct terminology will never be used.

These forums are a wealth of knowledge. Using correct terminology is a part of that knowledge. Or at least should be.


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Funny how the manufacturers don't seem to care, note the use of rim on the FMVSS from a Ram, Ford and Keystone Cougar:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170412/199bbc7e55fe4430f0635302a5ff6ab9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170412/8f642e1d137a0a96633bc7bd4b5bf1d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170412/f7e1aaa4704c76ef6a2fccdf1d8b7896.jpg


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[captcolour]

I contacted Sailun directly through their website to ask about the 6.5" width requirement. This was their response:

"The approved rim contours for tire size ST 235/85R16 per the 2016 Tire and Rim Associate Yearbook as 6J, 6K, and 6L; so they can be safely mounted on a 6” rim."

The reply came from TBC Wholesale in Florida who is a distributor for Sailun. I also e-mailed through the Canadian website for Sailun. Will see if I get the same answer.

I assume in their response, the "J", "K" and "L" are bead contours though I can't find a reference for the "L".

[CWtheMan]

This tire manufacturer has been pretty specific about the size rim approved for this tire.

http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php?photo=29711
http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php?photo=29709

[bsmith0404]

There is always the preferred/recommended size for everything, but in many cases one size up or down will also work. I just installed the Hartland ST LRG tires in my 5er, they also recommend they are mounted on a 6.5" metal thing, but Discount Tire shows that a 6" is also acceptable and that's what they are on.

Now if you want to talk people getting bent out of shape on terminology, go ask Navy vet what boat they were on.

[captcolour]

Just to complete the story, I also got a response from the Director, Commercial Truck Products from sailuntires.ca:
"Bruce, the suggested rim width is 6.5”. The allowable rim width is +/- ½” so you will be okay with the rim width of 6”. The bigger concern is the pressure rating on your wheel. Typically, there is an 80 psi rating and a 110 psi rating. If your rim is rated for 80 psi, you can still use the S637 tire, however; you can only inflate to the maximum of 80 psi. I am guessing you are considering the S637 so you can carry more load than with your current tire which may not be possible with a rim rated for only 80 psi. One advantage you will gain is the increased speed rating. The regular poly-steel ST tires are generally rated for 55 mph. The S637 is rated for 75 mph."

I further asked if you deviated from the 6.5" rim, which is the preferred direction, smaller or bigger:
"Bruce, it may depend on the clearance in your wheel well. I would also check your owner’s manual for the trailer. I don’t want to recommend one or the other without knowing all the specification information. If it were my trailer and everything met the trailer manufacturer’s specification, I would go with the 7” if the 6.5” was not available."

I did find a few more potential 6.5" rims manufactured by HiSpec. Load rating implies 110 psi, but doesn't specifically say. Have to contact them directly to ask.