TV & Mounts help after break in....

[hdrolling]

So our 2015 Raptor 332TS was broke into and all the TV's and brackets were taken.

Our repair guy said Keystone gets their TV mounts from other sources.

I've been looking at trekwood and they have mounts but no pictures, does anyone with a Raptor know if your mounts have names or parts numbers on them so I can order them.

I have the 46" Tv in the living room, 32" in the bedroom and a detachable 19" in the garage mounted on the wall not up above on the loft.

Also, as far as Tv's Ive read some posts that say you need camper specific Tv's?

Is there any such thing, I've never heard of a TV designed to handle being shook and bumped while traveling down the road?

The 46" Tv is listed on treckwoods site but they want over $2000 for a standard 1080p flat-screen. I could get a 4K for half that at any electronics store I would think.

So are the Tv's just a plain Tv I can go to best buy and pick up or do I need to order a camper specific type?

If anyone had pictures of the three different mounts or better yet a link of where I could order them that would be extremely helpful.

My new doors should be here in a few days so I need to get this stuff ordered so my repair guy can get it all done at once.

Thanks

[chuckster57]

First off, sorry you got violated. Thiefs are about the lowest form of scum.

Anyway, having worked on several different lines of a RV's, I can't say there is any specific RV television. We have changed/added lots of them without any reports of failures so I would say get what you want. As for mounts, there are a lot of different brands and styles. If someone with your model chimes in that's great, if not Amazon might be a good source.

[BirchyBoy]

Sorry to read this. There are some manufacturers that make 12 volt TV's but I don't see many of them around; mainly Lance's IIRC. For replacement TV's, get one that is as light as possible and meets your needs. The mount is important; it needs to have some locking mechanism to keep it from moving while traveling. My previous trailer had a strap that went from the top to the bottom. I replaced that with a Mo/Ryde arm that locks.

Edit: you should check with the manufacturer about the mount requirements if you can't tell from where the old one was attached. Some campers have a square plate behind the plywood, some may require attaching to studs, etc.

[hdrolling]

First off, sorry you got violated. Thiefs are about the lowest form of scum.

Anyway, having worked on several different lines of a RV's, I can't say there is any specific RV television. We have changed/added lots of them without any reports of failures so I would say get what you want. As for mounts, there are a lot of different brands and styles. If someone with your model chimes in that's great, if not Amazon might be a good source.

I didn't think so but want to be sure.

While looking on line there is a price difference between the different weights of the Tv's, is there a recommended weight to try to stay under for RV walls or would that depend on the bracket used?

The 46" OEM Tv bracket pulled from the wall and and was able to angle so I'm guessing that would add to the weight of the TV putting stress on the wall paneling.

[canesfan]

Sorry about your misfortune. Sux! I'll look at my mounts later today if I get a chance and see if I can get pictures. But I would really just go to Amazon and pick the style mounts you want. As for the TVs, I have never heard of an RV specific TV. I used to manage an electronics boutique that sold all kinds of "specialized" TVs.

My TV in the living room has a bungee cord (actually all 3 do) holding it in place for travel, but you can also find locking mounts, like the one in the garage.

I'd look at weights as part of the deciding factor on choosing TVs.

[hdrolling]

Looking up the spec for the 46" Tv that came with the camper it weighed 26.5lbs without the mount.

[hdrolling]

Some campers have a square plate behind the plywood, some may require attaching to studs, etc.

These mounts just secured to the wall so I'm guessing any mount that fits the size TV will work.

The bedroom pretty much needs a 32" (or smaller) because that's the size of the opening.

The garage I'm debating on going bigger than 19", mainly because there are no quality 19" Tv made now a days it seems. I also use the detachable mount in the garage to bring that Tv outside and hang it from the mount in my storage.

I was thinking 19" because that's the biggest I can go and have the Tv still retract and fit inside the storage but I never leave it there so it doesn't matter.

Now I'm looking at 46" Tv's and they don't really get made now as well, so I'm thinking I could get away with at least a 48" 4K and still be able to get to the stairs on either side without running into it.

Here's the 46" pre-stolen and the wall now.

[canesfan]

The mounts secure to the wall, but most of the walls are hollow. They either have to mount to a stud or a backing plate installed in the wall just for that purpose. That is why in a lot of units that don't have a TV installed you will see a sticker that says "mount TV here". I would try to keep the mounts where the old ones were.

[hdrolling]

The mounts secure to the wall, but most of the walls are hollow. They either have to mount to a stud or a backing plate installed in the wall just for that purpose. That is why in a lot of units that don't have a TV installed you will see a sticker that says "mount TV here". I would try to keep the mounts where the old ones were.

I would have to get into the storage and look behind were the TV was mounted to see if anything fell, but from the picture I posted where the TV's were ripped from the wall it looked like the mount was just attached to the hollow wall.

I would think if the TV was attached to a back plate or a stud that more damage would have been done to the wall?

[chuckster57]

With the number of screw holes, it may have been hollow wall but that would be rare. Just press on the wall in the center and you'll be able to feel if there is a backing board. It could be that the pickers were nice enough to use a screwdriver because they wanted the mount too.

[hdrolling]

With the number of screw holes, it may have been hollow wall but that would be rare. Just press on the wall in the center and you'll be able to feel if there is a backing board. It could be that the pickers were nice enough to use a screwdriver because they wanted the mount too.

I need to drive out and check, I never thought of that.......

[canesfan]

When I was looking at the picture I thought how minimal the damage was and that maybe they did use a screwdriver. It seems if they just ripped it off the wall there would be more damage than that. I also don't think, even with that number of screws, that it was just screwed into a hollow wall that probably is, what, maybe 1/16" thick? 26 lbs of TV, plus mount, bouncing down the road? I could be wrong, but... Hopefully the backing board is either screwed into studs or glued to the wall so that it is still there and didn't just fall off when they took the screws out. Not sure how they mount them. But yeah, just push on the wall a little, you'll be able to see and/or feel the wall move where it's hollow.

[hdrolling]

Here is a couple more pics, one of the living room and one of the bedroom. Luckily the garage still has the detachable bracket, just not the bracket that attaches to the TV.

[chuckster57]

If I was to bet, I'd say they used driver to remove screws. Garage probably lifted off real easy so they left the wall portion

[PARAPTOR]

I assume the concern about weight is that its hanging off the support attached to the wall acting as a lever. As you bounce down the road that say 25 lb will be amplified at the bracket to wall connection.

Here is a thought, I would maximize the TV size that would fit in that existing opening, buy a bracket that fits the TV which I assume you would want one that swivels left and right. I see a shelf there so I would position the bottom of the TV either on or very close to that shelf thereby minimizing the possible up down motion which will get amplified by the bracket as you bounce down the road. Then with the mount on the TV mark the holes on the wall.

Like canesfan said when TVs are not supplied with the rig a sticker is placed in that approximate area stating mount here. I assume that marked area is a pretty big area that they provide. In other words specific screw pattern is not indicated.

As far as RV TVs I never heard of any other than the general 12VDC ones that could be considered that.

We had some posts in the past on this subject and if I recall correctly it was a Raptor member who's rig had no mount/TV in the garage and he wanted to add one. May want to try a search. I know there were bracket numbers exchanged


ADDED here is one http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4109&highlight=raptor+bracket

[suddensam]

Very sorry to see that you have to deal with this.

I've got the same model year 332TS so I can take some pictures of my mounts and TVs and try to get model numbers if visible later tonight. I'm going off memory but I'm pretty sure the living room TV in mine is a 50" may even be a 55".

Sam

[canesfan]

Paraptor, wow, that thread about the garage mount was a loooong time ago. Your memory isn't completely shot. :D I remember I took pictures of mine and posted them. So find that thread and that will answer one question.

The idea of mounting it so the bottom rests on the lip, one of my previous rigs was like that. It had a little "cushion" between the lip and the TV for it to "sit" on that provided extra support. It was actually a good idea and didn't look bad at all.

[canesfan]

Found it, no pictures of the arm though but a picture of the wall mount http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15974

The garage mount in mine = Moview MS1042 by Ramco Engineering.

But when I was searching for the thread I ran across some others that used a different style/brand. So not sure. Some others, the bracket that the arm slid into was more of a V slot than the keyhole slots like mine. Mine has a "Strap" hanging from the arm that you pull down to release the locking mechanism if that helps.

edit - the link Paraptor posted above has the V shaped mount also.

Edit - here's another http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15889 with a partial picture of the arm.

Paraptor, do your mounts "fold" or do you have to take them off for traveling??? :hide:

[PARAPTOR]

canesfan; Thanks for pulling up more references, there were a couple out there. Not sure if the OP is around at the moment??

YES I do have spurts of recall every now and then, now if fingers can move better so I can finger pick(old form of typing) faster :banghead: By the time I get a post typed and submit it .......:popcorn: topic has been changed :facepalm: At least fingers still move

Again thanks

[hdrolling]

Found it, no pictures of the arm though though http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15974

The garage mount in mine = Moview MS1042 by Ramco Engineering.

But when I was searching for the thread I ran across some others that used a different style/brand. So not sure. Some others, the bracket that the arm slid into was more of a V slot than the keyhole slots like mine. Mine has a "Strap" hanging from the arm that you pull down to release the locking mechanism if that helps.

Edit - here's another http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15889 with a partial picture of the arm.

Paraptor, do your mounts "fold" or do you have to take them off for traveling??? :hide:


That's what I was looking for thanks!!!! Looking at the pics I would guess my other two mounts are made by the same place I just need to search through and find the right ones.

I've been reading through and searching threads since 0830 this morning, pretty frustrating when you can't find what your searching for. That's why I started a thread.

As for mounting the TV as low as possible the issue would be I have a sound bar under the TV and when its closed up the TV has to sit above the sound bar.

[canesfan]

I'll go out and look at my other mounts in a little. It's really nice today and I need to get out and wash it anyway.

I forgot about the sound bar. Mine is in a little cubby hole under the shelf. You could still mount it close to the soundbar and get a piece of high density foam to put between the TV and soundbar as support. Just don't put "too" much weight on the soundbar.

[hdrolling]

I'll go out and look at my other mounts in a little. It's really nice today and I need to get out and wash it anyway.

I forgot about the sound bar. Mine is in a little cubby hole under the shelf. You could still mount it close to the soundbar and get a piece of high density foam to put between the TV and soundbar as support. Just don't put "too" much weight on the soundbar.

Yeah I'm not seeing what I think the living room and bedroom mounts look like on the Moview page, A picture would be great.

That's definitely the correct one for the garage, I could have just used anything but I already bought the extra detachable mount last year to put in my outside storage so I could move the tv outside on nice nights.

[hdrolling]

I think this one from trekwood is the correct one for the livingroom and is listed for the 46" TV but without a pic on the site it's had to be sure.
http://www.trekwood.com/products/448276/Bracket-TV-Fab-Pwdr-Coat-46-400-x-400mm-Single-Swing-Arm-Bracket

This one is listed for the a Sony 32" so I'm not sure if the cheap brand TV I had in the bedroom is the same? The bolt holes don't match up.
http://www.trekwood.com/products/448267/Bracket-TV-Fab-Pwdr-Coat-32-Sony-Special-Swing-Arm

[PARAPTOR]

Bedroom and garage TV's have the same bracket that pulls out and then push in and locks in place for travel. The one in the living room does not have a bracket that locks in place, a strap is used to secure it while traveling. All three swivel left and right. The ones that lock are a big pain to get unlocked

Canesfan I do not remove anything for travel Since it is so warm down there :banghead: maybe you can get a picture of the living room one

ADDED: Note the living room one is not fixed it also pulls out from the wall like the other two TVs BUT does not lock for traveling

[canesfan]

Ok, going out to look. Be back shortly.

[hdrolling]

Bedroom and garage TV's have the same bracket that pulls out and then push in and locks in place for travel. The one in the living room does not have a bracket that locks in place, a strap is used to secure it while traveling. All three swivel left and right. The ones that lock are a big pain to get unlocked

Canesfan I do not remove anything for travel Since it is so warm down there :banghead: maybe you can get a picture of the living room one

The bracket in my bedroom mounts to the right side of the wall, not to the rear like the garage.

[PARAPTOR]

The bracket in my bedroom mounts to the right side of the wall, not to the rear like the garage.

So does ours Bedroom curb side wall near EXIT window

ADDED: OOPS got you, stand corrected

[canesfan]

Ok, mine the living room and bedroom are the same style mount, just different sizes. The bedroom is not the same as the garage, but my bedroom mounts directly behind the tv, not on the side. Just like the living room tv. No names or numbers to be seen on either. Pictures shortly.

[canesfan]

Here's the living room. Note the arm is offset on the plate that attaches to the wall. Not sure why. It swivels both ways. And the arm is solid, it doesn't hinge in the middle.

[hdrolling]

Mine was definitely mounted to the side in the bedroom, I wonder if the dealer install the TV brackets when they get them? I could have my Repair guy cover the holes on the right and maybe still mount a new one on the back wall if I ca't find a bracket that will work on the side.

[canesfan]

Here's the bedroom. Same as the living room, just smaller. Not sure it would work to mount it on the side.

[canesfan]

Mine was definitely mounted to the side in the bedroom, I wonder if the dealer install the TV brackets when they get them? I could have my Repair guy cover the holes on the right and maybe still mount a new one on the back wall if I ca't find a bracket that will work on the side.

Have you checked for backers? There is definitely a backer behind the living room tv, the bedroom tv is mounted to the outer wall so it must be mounted into the studs. Otherwise the wall is just luan and styrofoam and I doubt that would hold much of anything. And I have to say, after pulling the living room tv out and moving it around (I don't use it much at all) there HAS to be a backer. That mount is stiff and if it was just screwed into luan I surely would have pulled it off the wall.

[canesfan]

Also, if you mount the bedroom behind instead of to the right, would that be the outer wall? See my comment above ^ re that prospect. Maybe that's why they mounted it to the side?

[hdrolling]

Have you checked for backers? There is definitely a backer behind the living room tv, the bedroom tv is mounted to the outer wall so it must be mounted into the studs. Otherwise the wall is just luan and styrofoam and I doubt that would hold much of anything.

No I haven't been able to go to my storage area today, I've been using pics I already had saved on my computer. I'm going to try to get out there tonight and check it out.

[PARAPTOR]

Here's the bedroom. Same as the living room, just smaller. Not sure it would work to mount it on the side.

Just got in, could not upload my pictures from the phone, but in the mean time canesfan mine looks very similar to yours, As usual I guess :facepalm:

[hdrolling]

Also, if you mount the bedroom behind instead of to the right, would that be the outer wall? See my comment above ^ re that prospect. Maybe that's why they mounted it to the side?

Yes it would be the outer wall if I mounted it to the rear, isn't that how yours is installed?

[hdrolling]

Thanks everyone for taking time out of your day to help me with this, I didn't realize how difficult it was going to be finding these mounts online.

[canesfan]

No I haven't been able to go to my storage area today, I've been using pics I already had saved on my computer. I'm going to try to get out there tonight and check it out.

I just noticed where you live. Do you store it nearby? I haven't heard a lot of good things about the neighboring area. I know this stuff can happen anywhere, but I might think about a different storage place a little farther away if so. No offense intended.

[canesfan]

Thanks everyone for taking time out of your day to help me with this, I didn't realize how difficult it was going to be finding these mounts online.

Yeah, really. You might, if you can't find something close, have to go through your dealer and get them from Keystone. I'm sure that would be cheap. :nonono: Good luck. If you need anything else, feel free to ask.

[hdrolling]

The way my Bedroom tv mount works is when its locked shut It's flush with the front of the dresser, when you unlock it it pulls into the bedroom closer to the bed. The pictures of your mount looks like your TV sits flush back against the wall in the bedroom cubby hole.

[hdrolling]

Yeah, really. You might, if you can't find something close, have to go through your dealer and get them from Keystone. I'm sure that would be cheap. :nonono: Good luck. If you need anything else, feel free to ask.

It's stored across the street from our camper world, I tried calling them for help but they said they would call back so I'm not holding my breath.

My storage had four campers get broke into the first night and the only other nearby storage had three get broke into the same night. The next night they came back and broke into three more.

I've thought about storing it on Ft Bragg but it's about an hour drive, right now it's 10 minutes down the road.

Yeah I live next the biggest Army base (personnel wise) in the entire Army, it's not the greatest area but I'm around paratroopers so It's home.

[canesfan]

The way my Bedroom tv mount works is when its locked shut It's flush with the front of the dresser, when you unlock it it pulls into the bedroom closer to the bed. The pictures of your mount looks like your TV sits flush back against the wall in the bedroom cubby hole.

That is correct. And it doesn't lock. It uses a bungee cord to hold it there just like the living room.

[canesfan]

Camping World has to have lots of security cameras. I'd go in and talk to a manager. Probably need the police help though. It's a shame this has become such a big issue the last few years. Before with the big, old, clunky TVs it didn't seem to be as much of a problem. I keep mine in my back yard and I still worry about it. Ft Bragg would definitely by on my radar after this.

I know the area, or about the area. I go down to Raleigh for the Hurricanes games and know some people who live down there from that. Fayetteville seems to have many nicknames, none very flattering. Not sure about the outskirts where you are though. But seeing your background you should be prepared. :D

[canesfan]

Looking at the link you posted for Trekwood, I would not pay $132. That's insane. Look around on Amazon and find something that will work for $30. Just my :twocents:

[hdrolling]

Looking at the link you posted for Trekwood, I would not pay $132. That's insane. Look around on Amazon and find something that will work for $30. Just my :twocents:

I just need to provide links to my insurance company, I'm not paying for anything.

As far as the cameras at camper world, they already arrested one of the guys trying to pawn a few of the other TV's so he's back behind bars. The detective said he was just released two weeks earlier.

None of my stuff has been recovered so they think it was multiple people and they divided up what they wanted and went their own ways to make money off what they stole.

[suddensam]

I couldn't find any detail to indicate a brand on the TV mounts but here are a few pictures of how the living room and bedroom TV's are mounted in mine.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4397

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4398

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4401

Both the living area and bedroom TVs appear to be mounted with the same mount. The one in the bedroom has a false wall installed in the cabinet the the TV is mounted to.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4399

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4400

[hdrolling]

I couldn't find any detail to indicate a brand on the TV mounts but here are a few pictures of how the living room and bedroom TV's are mounted in mine.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4397

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4398

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4401

Both the living area and bedroom TVs appear to be mounted with the same mount. The one in the bedroom has a false wall installed in the cabinet the the TV is mounted to.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4399

http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=828&pictureid=4400

I didn't realize there was a board like that in the bedroom cubby, that would explain why there are so many mount holes on my right side wall. So now I know they ripped the entire support wall that the mount was secured to out of the cubby.

Thanks for the pics, I can show my repair guy and it looks like any rear Tv mount will work after he put that support back in.

Looks like I have my list finished with all the info everyone posted, all the help is really appreciated. I'm so ready to get our rig back together before our first trip to Tn in a couple months!

[hdrolling]

Just to update I finally received both mounts that I ordered from trekwood. They had three listed, but after I tried ordering one (32") they sent me an email cancelling my order saying it was no longer being made. They removed the listing from their website, so I ordered the 40" mount.

Both mounts have the correct bracket that connect to the wall and the arm is correct, but both plates that attach to the TV will need to be modified I think.

The big one for my 48" has a 400x400 plate, I'll have to open the box for the 50" TV i bought but I don't think it will need a plate that big. I can easily just drill new mounting holes, at least its too big and not too small!

The second has the smaller mounting plate but there is an additional lip on the bottom to help stabilize a SONY 32" TV.

I don't think my 32" Samsung can use that so I might just have to cut off the extra lip, still an easy fix. Just waiting on my two new doors and I'll be ready to mount the new TV's!

[PARAPTOR]

Thanks for the Update, hope you get your doors soon and you can get out!!

[hdrolling]

Yeah the doors are both suppose to be here already, keystone sent the package with two doors listed in the contents and when camper world opened it there was just one. Keystone said they would have the second one here this week so we'll see.

Also trying to get the front decal replaced, faded and cracked. Keystone said the warranty is expired but the brochure has a standard option of the 2015's as "New Upgraded Graphics Package with 5 Year Warranty", not sure how a two year old camper would be expired on a five year decal warranty?

[hdrolling]

Another update, messed around with the new 50 inch TV today. I guess it was lucky the mount I ordered was 400x400 because that is what the new TV needed.

It's on the wall and now I'm working on getting the sound bar to fit underneath it. Still debating if I need the soundbar, but if I grind the two little nobs off the bottom of the bar it will sit lower allowing the TV to move over it.

The only downside would be that the top of the TV would rub on the upper shelf a very little bit when swinging the TV out towards the couch, and then the same when I secured it for towing. I'm thinking the three times a year the TV gets re-positioned won't do any damage as long as I move it out slowly and carefully.

I'll get some pic's posted later if anyone else is ever wanting to try to install a larger TV than the 48" 1080p that came with the camper.

Now that I have the 50" 4K installed I realized that nothing in the camper uses 4K, I guess I could bring my XBOX ONE S and then I could stream 4K shows through Netfix if I'm somewhere that has fast enough internet to stream shows?