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05-14-2016, 06:07 PM
Up until today, I did not have "apples to apples" Cat Scale numbers for our set up (listed in the title). I had some time and wanted to do a test pull after changing the TT wheel bearings, installing the MorRyde wet bolt kit and air bags on the TV. So why not load up the DW, fresh water and our typical weekend cargo and take a 20 mile drive to the scales and retorque the lug nuts when we arrive?
The numbers I tabulated below, with the exception of the unloaded Truck only, were from today's weigh ins.
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A few things to note:
* The unloaded truck was weighed when new (a year ago) and had no bed cap nor any cargo in it other than me and the DW.
* The loaded truck includes the bed cap and stuff we loaded into it for a typical weekend trip.
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* The TT has mods made to it to move weight to the rear of the axles. This includes vinyl tubes for the sewer hose and ladder and a cargo box on the rear bumper. We also load the front storage areas as light as possible and place heavy items in the bed of the TV. One negative modification we made was replacing the 24 lb factory mattress with a 54 lb mattress from Ikea in the front bedroom.
* We typically load 10 to 12.5 gallons of FW in the front under the bed FW tank. For this weigh in, I loaded about 12.5 gal.
* We tow with a ProPride hitch. When doing the weighing, the hitch head and bars are on the trailer. But from a load stand point it has to be treated as payload on the TV's receiver. The hitch head and bars weigh 127 lbs and this value was accounted for in the calculations. For those that may check my calculations, the 127 lbs needs to be subtracted from the traditional tongue weight calculation and added to the TV's payload (and load on the TV receiver).
Here is a summary of the numbers. The left side is related to the TV without the TT. The right side of the table is with the TT.
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A few comments related to the TT:
* Our 4660 lb dry TT gained 933 lbs of "stuff" we take with us on weekend trips. I do not believe we take too much stuff. It just adds up very quickly as others point out.
* We still have 1207 lbs of cargo capacity in the TT (but I will not tell the DW).
* We have ample excess capacity on the TT axles and tires.
A few comments related to the TV:
* The bed cap and items we keep in the bed of the TV along with a 5 gal jug of fresh water in the cab is 660 lbs.
* We are well within the TV axle, tire and combined weight capacities.
* I did a forth re-weigh after I studied the first three and was able to confirm that my typical WD setup gets my front TV front axle back to it's unloaded state. (I had assumed I could back off the WD bar loading because I now had air bags on the TV, I was wrong!)
* Of the 2668 lb yellow sticker payload capacity, we only have 818 pounds left since we have 1860 lbs of payload. If the bed cap was removed, it would still be approximately 1660 lbs of payload and the DW and I only make up 330 lbs of that payload.
I hope this helps others considering a TV or TT in their future.
(BTW: let me know if I made any errors in my calculations.)
The numbers I tabulated below, with the exception of the unloaded Truck only, were from today's weigh ins.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160515/89cae5a6b591f5be43ec2f578c5fc63e.jpg
A few things to note:
* The unloaded truck was weighed when new (a year ago) and had no bed cap nor any cargo in it other than me and the DW.
* The loaded truck includes the bed cap and stuff we loaded into it for a typical weekend trip.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160515/707e96e25514396a3d424398279ab7e6.jpg
* The TT has mods made to it to move weight to the rear of the axles. This includes vinyl tubes for the sewer hose and ladder and a cargo box on the rear bumper. We also load the front storage areas as light as possible and place heavy items in the bed of the TV. One negative modification we made was replacing the 24 lb factory mattress with a 54 lb mattress from Ikea in the front bedroom.
* We typically load 10 to 12.5 gallons of FW in the front under the bed FW tank. For this weigh in, I loaded about 12.5 gal.
* We tow with a ProPride hitch. When doing the weighing, the hitch head and bars are on the trailer. But from a load stand point it has to be treated as payload on the TV's receiver. The hitch head and bars weigh 127 lbs and this value was accounted for in the calculations. For those that may check my calculations, the 127 lbs needs to be subtracted from the traditional tongue weight calculation and added to the TV's payload (and load on the TV receiver).
Here is a summary of the numbers. The left side is related to the TV without the TT. The right side of the table is with the TT.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160525/23a1ffc453301d3d63d490a10a10e9fe.jpg
A few comments related to the TT:
* Our 4660 lb dry TT gained 933 lbs of "stuff" we take with us on weekend trips. I do not believe we take too much stuff. It just adds up very quickly as others point out.
* We still have 1207 lbs of cargo capacity in the TT (but I will not tell the DW).
* We have ample excess capacity on the TT axles and tires.
A few comments related to the TV:
* The bed cap and items we keep in the bed of the TV along with a 5 gal jug of fresh water in the cab is 660 lbs.
* We are well within the TV axle, tire and combined weight capacities.
* I did a forth re-weigh after I studied the first three and was able to confirm that my typical WD setup gets my front TV front axle back to it's unloaded state. (I had assumed I could back off the WD bar loading because I now had air bags on the TV, I was wrong!)
* Of the 2668 lb yellow sticker payload capacity, we only have 818 pounds left since we have 1860 lbs of payload. If the bed cap was removed, it would still be approximately 1660 lbs of payload and the DW and I only make up 330 lbs of that payload.
I hope this helps others considering a TV or TT in their future.
(BTW: let me know if I made any errors in my calculations.)