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michael_h
03-29-2015, 08:35 PM
Yesterday I looked a brand new F350 only cause I was curious of the tongue weight limits (1250). . . I was shocked it was only 200 pounds more than that of my F150.

I guess if one plans to tow a Cougar 30RLI or 33RBI, even maybe the 33RES, 31RKS, 31SQB or even the 28RBS all tags, you may need an even bigger truck as the tongue weights dry are between 895 to 1065 pounds. Seems by the time the essentials are added, even these trucks will be close or over tongue limits

Just an observation

rbev2308
03-30-2015, 01:36 AM
Not getting this. What F-350 configuration did you look at..gas or diesel, what rear end gear/GVWR rating. Not buying the fact that an F-350 has only 200 lbs more than an F-150..Did you just look at the Hitch rating? Consider a weight distribution system?

michael_h
03-30-2015, 03:32 AM
RBEV, the hitch said on the sticker with WDH max TW1250, i'm not sure what motor was in it, I really wasn't as much concerned with that just know it said F350 on the side and was shocked a 1 ton truck would have such a low tongue weight rating when we think of trucks such as F350's as heavy duty work trucks

rbev2308
03-30-2015, 04:35 AM
Attached a pic of my sticker off my F-350. Maybe this truck was configured with a lesser class hitch. I am no towing expert but the truck can handle the weight, it is the hitch that is the issue and maybe and upgrade on the hitch. I don't tow a travel trailer with my F350, I have a 14,000 lb fifth wheel so weights are different considering load on my springs and overall other weights which are all in limits.

michael_h
03-30-2015, 09:10 AM
So I'm not wrong, the right side of your sticker says 1250 tow and 1250 tongue weight, the truck I looked at the sticker only stated that and what the non distribution hitch weight limits are . . . That tag mentioned nothing about a draw bar (what ever that is, though I think I have an idea)

The 2011 Ford tow guide does mention tongue weight abilities up to 1760 but with aception notes

JRTJH
03-30-2015, 10:12 AM
So I'm not wrong, the right side of your sticker says 1250 tow and 1250 tongue weight, the truck I looked at the sticker only stated that and what the non distribution hitch weight limits are . . . That tag mentioned nothing about a draw bar (what ever that is, though I think I have an idea)

The 2011 Ford tow guide does mention tongue weight abilities up to 1760 but with aception notes

You're "not wrong" in citing that the hitch receiver (the part that bolts onto the truck frame) is rated at 1250 tongue weight (when used with a 2.5/2.0" adapter sleeve). That has absolutely nothing to do with the tongue weight/trailer weight ratings for the truck to which it is attached.

Typically, Ford installs a 500/1000 pound hitch weight "RECEIVER" on F150's and a 1250 pound hitch weight "RECEIVER" on F250's and a 1850 pound hitch weight "RECEIVER" on F350's. That is the "hitch weight rating" for the metal attachment (receiver) that bolts to the truck frame. It is NOT the maximum trailer weight rating for the truck.

It's like saying you have a 750 CCA battery or a 900 CCA battery under the hood. That has nothing to do with the amperage available on the power pin of the 7 pin trailer receptacle. Similarly, the receiver that's bolted to the back of the truck has nothing to do with the ratings of the tow vehicle, although a "low rated receiver" could limit the maximum trailer weight far below the actual truck's capability.

GaryWT
03-30-2015, 10:18 AM
There are truck capacities and hitch capacities. You can change a hitch but you cannot increase payload. My 150 had a payload of 1700 pounds and my 350 has a payload of 3860 pounds, that is where the difference in the trucks are. Tongue weight plus everything in the truck (people and gear plus truck equipment) should not go over payload. As for the hitch itself, you would have to see if that could be upgraded if needed but with a wdh you might be good.

Mr30RLI
05-17-2015, 04:53 AM
Rbev

I have the same receiver on my 2015 F250. Any idea why the limits change with the size of draw bar? Not seeing how that would change the ability of the receiver to handle down force differently

Frank

bsmith0404
05-17-2015, 05:59 AM
Basically the truck has a class V, 2.5" receiver. Class V hitches are typically 1200 lb tongue weight, but increase to 1700 lb area with a WDH. By putting a reducer into the hitch so you can use a 2" shank (class IV) you are adding different factors to the hitch. Does a smaller shank reduce the rating of the metal attaching the hitch to the truck? No, but most shanks are built to the class of the hitch they are made for. My guess Ford is simply stating if you reduce the shank to a class IV (2") shank, you now have a class IV hitch and therefore the tow ratings are reflected. Class IV hitches are a 1,000 lb tongue and 10,000 lb tow rated hitch, but can go up to 1,400/14,000 with WDH.