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Desert185
02-27-2015, 05:15 PM
My steel version weighs 75#. This new aluminum version weighs 32# and is rated for the same weight. This has to be good for those with "payload anxiety" and the desire for a quick, hernia reducing hitch removal.

32#...

http://www.andersenhitches.com/Products/3220--aluminum-ultimate-5th-wheel-connectiongooseneck-version.aspx

GmaPaTime
02-27-2015, 06:58 PM
Amazing..... I'm surprised that there are not more of us using this product. So far, I have not found one thing bad about mine. At first, it was a little tricky lining up to the coupler but now its a breeze. Five minutes to install, five minutes to remove. Great product :D

chuckster57
02-27-2015, 07:32 PM
The only issue I see is having to change your pin box. To retain the frame warranty from lippert you have to use the Reese Goose Box and it ain't cheap.

When you add it all up, unless payload weight is the issue, it's cheaper to stay with traditional style.
Not saying it isn't nice, but I can spend the $$ on better things.

gtsum2
02-27-2015, 07:55 PM
No need to change the pinbox. The anderson comes with an adapter tongi over the kingpin

chuckster57
02-27-2015, 08:14 PM
No need to change the pinbox. The anderson comes with an adapter tongi over the kingpin


I didn't see where it was included in the price. And I didn't see where it was approved by lippert to retain the frame warranty.

Maybe you can link me to that?

Desert185
02-27-2015, 08:27 PM
The pin adapter is included. They also have a rail version, and it doesn't affect any warranties. If you already have the rails or the gooseneck ball, this the least expensive, lightest and easiest hitch to remove.

chuckster57
02-27-2015, 08:33 PM
I stand corrected then. From a weight standpoint I can see where 32 lbs. Instead of 75-100 would be better. Thanks for clearing it up.

GmaPaTime
02-28-2015, 05:29 AM
I have it in writing from Lippert that the warranty is intact with using this hitch. Received that before I bought it and talked with an engineer also. Only thing to keep in mind is that in some states, one of which I travel in, requires safety chains. Anderson has additional hardware for this also.

Desert185
02-28-2015, 08:27 AM
I stand corrected then. From a weight standpoint I can see where 32 lbs. Instead of 75-100 would be better. Thanks for clearing it up.

The B&W Companion (20,000# capacity) weighs 206# with the base and coupler. This new, aluminum Andersen (24,000# capacity) weighs 32#. I find the weight difference astounding while accomplishing the same task. Even considering the Reese Goosebox weight and price, the Andersen comes out on top even with the less expensive, 75# steel version. I think they have a winner.

chuckster57
02-28-2015, 08:31 AM
I agree. I am using my 14K Robbins for now, weighs about 50 Lbs. If I get a newer TV I will look into the Anderson.

hoffbrew
02-28-2015, 09:02 AM
The rail mount version sparks my attention. Pretty interesting, I like it. Just seems like it would crush!!! I know it won't.

GmaPaTime
02-28-2015, 09:31 AM
The rail mount version sparks my attention. Pretty interesting, I like it. Just seems like it would crush!!! I know it won't.

Anderson has a video on thier website of thier crush test which was quite impressive. Two other nice features of this hitch is no need for grease and when not in the truck, can acually hange on the wall of the garage.

hoffbrew
02-28-2015, 10:11 AM
The convenience factor is a plus. no more fork lift to take out!!! And when I need to use the back of truck I can.

GmaPaTime
03-03-2015, 12:00 PM
FWIW..... Just read that the new Aluminum Anderson 5ver Hitch is 4" lower in height and designed for flat beads and high rise pickups.

Desert185
03-03-2015, 12:56 PM
FWIW..... Just read that the new Aluminum Anderson 5ver Hitch is 4" lower in height and designed for flat beads and high rise pickups.

There's two, a 3220 regular and a 3221 lower version.

www.andersenhitches.com

GmaPaTime
03-03-2015, 01:30 PM
There's two, a 3220 regular and a 3221 lower version.

www.andersenhitches.com

You are so right..... I stand corrected :D

buzzcop63
03-03-2015, 03:30 PM
Using a Travel Trailer now but if ever we move to a 5th wheel this hitch would sure be worth a hard look! Very impressive, thanks for bringing to the Forum!

Poppy's 5th Wheel
03-05-2015, 08:57 AM
I switched to the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel hitch to help lower the weight in my bed. It really is an amazing setup. So much simpler than traditional hitches. I have the rail mount steel version and it only weighs 40 lbs! The gooseneck version weighs 75 lbs.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162870_0_b05111ab99d89b621eca990c1914f81c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160205_927.jpg.html)

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162870_1_d8243f0c5256720417c8ff2a608a70f4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160155_896.jpg.html)

hoffbrew
03-05-2015, 10:39 AM
Did you notice any difference towing with this hitch?

GmaPaTime
03-05-2015, 11:22 AM
I switched to the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel hitch to help lower the weight in my bed. It really is an amazing setup. So much simpler than traditional hitches. I have the rail mount steel version and it only weighs 40 lbs! The gooseneck version weighs 75 lbs.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162894_0_b05111ab99d89b621eca990c1914f81c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160205_927.jpg.html)

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162894_1_d8243f0c5256720417c8ff2a608a70f4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160155_896.jpg.html)

Looks good.... I'm sure you'll be real happy with it. I am!!!:D

Desert185
03-05-2015, 01:48 PM
I switched to the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel hitch to help lower the weight in my bed. It really is an amazing setup. So much simpler than traditional hitches. I have the rail mount steel version and it only weighs 40 lbs! The gooseneck version weighs 75 lbs.

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162930_0_b05111ab99d89b621eca990c1914f81c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160205_927.jpg.html)

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_162930_1_d8243f0c5256720417c8ff2a608a70f4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/blown96ws6/media/New%20Reflection%20337RLS/IMG_20150211_160155_896.jpg.html)

Between the Andersen and the Mor/ryde you must have smooth pull. I have the gooseneck version of the Andersen (75#), as I had the B&W ball and no rails. If the aluminum version had been available at the time, I would have bought it instead. Great system!

hoffbrew
07-21-2015, 09:50 AM
Any new news on this Andersen Hitch?? Desert185.. how is this hitch doing for you now?

tdawg
07-21-2015, 02:41 PM
Just installed the aluminum Anderson love it and half the cost of a traditional 5th hitch.

gkainz
07-21-2015, 04:13 PM
I bought the Andersen Ultimate aluminum this spring and so far it's all good! Love the 32# weight. Changing out the gooseneck ball for a turn over ball this winter so I can have a completely flat bed when I'm not towing.

Desert185
07-21-2015, 07:20 PM
Any new news on this Andersen Hitch?? Desert185.. how is this hitch doing for you now?

I have the steel version because the aluminum one hadn't been offered at the time. With the B&W turn over ball, the bed is flat after taking literally a few minutes to remove the hitch. It tows great, hitching is simple, its rated at 24,000# and is everything as advertised. The price and weight advantage is good compared to a Reese Goosebox, too. I wouldn't have anything else.

hoffbrew
07-22-2015, 08:50 AM
I guess I will pull the trigger on the rail mount 3200.

hoffbrew
07-22-2015, 12:48 PM
Amazon Prime ..... will be here Friday then I will try it out for my trip to Pismo Beach next week....

hoffbrew
07-24-2015, 01:01 PM
Baam! Took out the Husky, measured everything then installed Andersen, measurements are at the same points with kingpin block. Not feeling well this afternoon so I am leaving the office and headed home for some beers and a torque wrench.... I mean Advil...

Desert185
07-26-2015, 05:35 PM
You're really going to like that hitch. :thumbsup:

omextreme
07-27-2015, 07:26 PM
Few questions from a newbie on this and any 5th wheel hitch.

I have just ordered a 2016 Cougar that will be available for pickup at the end of august and now i need to prep the truck.

I have a ram with a 6'4" bed. My initial research steered me towards an autoslider. My big issue would be removing the hitch after every camping trip since I would need the truck bed for work. The idea of a 32lb hitch is wonderful, not to mention the price is much easier to swallow.

I thought i read somewhere that the newer Cougars would make it 88deg without a slider.

SO.... Am i better off learning to pull my first 5th wheel with a slider and deal with lugging 200 lbs of hitch in and out of the bed weekly or trying the new anderson hitch system?

Thanks in advance.

hoffbrew
07-27-2015, 08:13 PM
I took trailer out for a ride, that hitch is nice, feels solid. No more clunk on start/stops. Feels as one now! Glad I did it. Hitch takes up less room than the Husky while in BUT I can take this out in seconds. Backed up and hitched up first time, no problems.

Desert185
07-27-2015, 11:17 PM
Few questions from a newbie on this and any 5th wheel hitch.

I have just ordered a 2016 Cougar that will be available for pickup at the end of august and now i need to prep the truck.

I have a ram with a 6'4" bed. My initial research steered me towards an autoslider. My big issue would be removing the hitch after every camping trip since I would need the truck bed for work. The idea of a 32lb hitch is wonderful, not to mention the price is much easier to swallow.

I thought i read somewhere that the newer Cougars would make it 88deg without a slider.

SO.... Am i better off learning to pull my first 5th wheel with a slider and deal with lugging 200 lbs of hitch in and out of the bed weekly or trying the new anderson hitch system?

Thanks in advance.

Give Andersen a call. They would have the best answer for you. They do mention turning the hitch 180 degrees when installing in a short bed somewhere in their advertising. Personally, I would avoid the weight and expense of a conventional hitch at all costs.

hoffbrew
07-28-2015, 07:43 AM
I saw the video that showed the hitch turned 180* for short bed trucks. One of our campers is ordering a Andersen rail mount for his short bed after seeing mine and road with me on my test ride, I will report on his.
After doing some more calcs, my trailer seems to be sitting 2" forward more than hooked up to the Husky.? Did I say that right? Not sure if this will have any towing effect. I leave Thursday am for Pismo, so I should be able to feel the difference.

gkainz
07-28-2015, 08:10 AM
I saw the video that showed the hitch turned 180* for short bed trucks. One of our campers is ordering a Andersen rail mount for his short bed after seeing mine and road with me on my test ride, I will report on his.
After doing some more calcs, my trailer seems to be sitting 2" forward more than hooked up to the Husky.? Did I say that right? Not sure if this will have any towing effect. I leave Thursday am for Pismo, so I should be able to feel the difference.

The Andersen hitch can be mounted front forward or front to the rear, which positions the hitch ball either 5 1/2" ahead of the gooseneck ball, or 5 1/2" behind it.

The kingpin to ball block can be mounted forward or reverse, which positions the ball 4 1/2" ahead of the kingpin, or 4 1/2" behind it.

I have the hitch positioned "This side forward" in the truck bed, so the Andersen ball sits 5 1/2" ahead of the gooseneck ball, and the kingpin adapter plate positioned to the rear of the kingpin, which then moves the hookup back 4 1/2", putting the kingpin 1" behind the gooseneck, or directly over the rear axle for me.

hoffbrew
07-28-2015, 08:17 AM
But with mine being a long bed, dont I want the hitch sitting forward? and the block mounted so the ball hole sits in front of the king pin?

hoffbrew
07-28-2015, 08:20 AM
If I just turn that block around the trailer will sit even closer. Should I reverse hitch and block and try that out? Or just tow it on the 3 hr trip and see how it really preforms?

hoffbrew
07-28-2015, 08:23 AM
OR... is it all psychological do to being something new and different?

gkainz
07-28-2015, 09:30 AM
mine is a long bed, too. I just tried all the different positions to get the king pin of the trailer as close to over the axle as possible, while still giving me enough room to open the tailgate with the trailer hooked up, and also clear the pin box all the way around.

Desert185
07-28-2015, 04:20 PM
If I just turn that block around the trailer will sit even closer. Should I reverse hitch and block and try that out? Or just tow it on the 3 hr trip and see how it really preforms?

If you have a long bed, install as recommended by Andersen, i.e. "This side forward".

Rusty
07-29-2015, 07:11 AM
Does it work with the newer Dodge and Fords with the 5th wheel prep package?

gtsum2
07-29-2015, 12:33 PM
Does it work with the newer Dodge and Fords with the 5th wheel prep package?

You need an adapter plate (picture frame adapter)

Rusty
07-29-2015, 12:35 PM
I have the picture frame adaptor. I was wondering if it fit on there.

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gtsum2
07-29-2015, 01:13 PM
Order the rail version from Anderson and you should be good to go

hoffbrew
07-29-2015, 09:00 PM
Ok.... Check engine light came on and it was emissions code for exhaust sensors. At dealer now hope to have back tomorrow, so now the test ride report to Pismo will be Friday.

hoffbrew
07-31-2015, 11:10 PM
Hitch worked great, nice and smooth, a winner in my book.

Alpine
08-02-2015, 08:15 AM
I love the idea of weight differences! I have put a little research into the internet asking about "stability" differences between a fifthwheel 12" plate and a ball...and all I have found so far is "opinion" not "science". Possibly not looking in the right area! Any "science" out there?

Garyl53
09-08-2015, 03:12 PM
Anyone using Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel hitch (bed rails version) with a 2011 Ford F250 6'8" bed? I have a 2007 Keystone Challenger and I am trying to figure out how to calculate the final cab-to-front cap clearance to make sure I can make reasonable turns without worrying about hitting the cab. The calculations appear complex since the front cap is curved resulting in the sides being about 13" or so further back than the center. I sure wish there was an online calculator to figure this out.