2015 Keystone RV FUZION 325 TOY HAULER FIFTH WHEEL

[Wing-in-it]

I'm thinking of going toy hauler.....

Anyone have any experience with this rig?

Any and all comments will be greatly appreciated!

http://www.holmanrv.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=753213&p=1&s=Year&d=D&sq=Fuzion

Mark(tx)

[matandjen]

We have a similar rig and love it. My only concern with that rig would be the garage size. I would just make sure that 11 is plenty for whatever you would be hauling.

[Kirro1000]

Brought the 2015 FZ 325 home last night.

So far the TH seems to be spot on.
We're moving up from a 26 ft bumper pull.
My concern was the 12,710 "shipping weight" because I've seen where that
weight may not include optional equipment like genies, a/c units, the hydraulic jack system, etc. Those features are heavy and could play into gcwr and rgawr
considerations with our Sierra.
The dealer was willing to weigh the TH ( and I did to ) and it was as advertised at 12,700.
Will reweigh it in different loading configuration to get a handle on "hitch" weight.
Lemme know if you have question.
Good luck.
p.s. LOVE the hydraulic jacks!!

[bduncan1231]

You will like dealing with Holman. We bought ours there last year and it was actually a pleasant experience. Eddie Holberg was our salesman on it

[Wing-in-it]

We have a similar rig and love it. My only concern with that rig would be the garage size. I would just make sure that 11 is plenty for whatever you would be hauling.

Thanks for that info....I should be good...I'll be hauling a Goldwing motorcycle. Plenty-o-room! (tx)

Brought the 2015 FZ 325 home last night.

So far the TH seems to be spot on.
We're moving up from a 26 ft bumper pull.
My concern was the 12,710 "shipping weight" because I've seen where that
weight may not include optional equipment like genies, a/c units, the hydraulic jack system, etc. Those features are heavy and could play into gcwr and rgawr
considerations with our Sierra.
The dealer was willing to weigh the TH ( and I did to ) and it was as advertised at 12,700.
Will reweigh it in different loading configuration to get a handle on "hitch" weight.
Lemme know if you have question.
Good luck.
p.s. LOVE the hydraulic jacks!!

I Will most likely build one to order...I do NOT want a generator or fuel tanks....I'll have no need for them. The rig I'm pulling now weighs 12,800 dry & I scaled perfectly. I would LOVE the 6 point leveling system! :D

Thanks for your info....

You will like dealing with Holman. We bought ours there last year and it was actually a pleasant experience. Eddie Holberg was our salesman on it

I live 9 hours away & would consider using them....Thanks for the info on the dealership.

Mark

[Wing-in-it]

Okay folks.....so the wife & I went to look at the Fuzion 325....We like it a lot!

Question for all you toy hauler owners....we're coming from a 42 foot Bunk House Fiver to this TH.....

Did any of you put a small dresser or cabinet down low in the garage for the kids to put their clothes and such? The 325 has cabinets but they're pretty high out of their reach. And if you did...do you have any photos or links to the cabinet/ dresser?

(tx)
Mark

[crash]

Cannt help you with that model ,but we have the Raptor with the 14ft garage and love it .The dogs love the rear deck patio and the side one.You may want to go with the generator just for those long trips where you need to boonedock sometime ,We use ours all the time for that and when the power goes out in the house I dont have to get the generator and cords out we just go in the camper and start the generator :D

[Wing-in-it]

Cannt help you with that model ,but we have the Raptor with the 14ft garage and love it .The dogs love the rear deck patio and the side one.You may want to go with the generator just for those long trips where you need to boonedock sometime ,We use ours all the time for that and when the power goes out in the house I dont have to get the generator and cords out we just go in the camper and start the generator :D

That's one hell of a rig you have there! And thanks for the advice, the salesman convinced me that if I do get it I should get the generator.

Mark

[matandjen]

Okay folks.....so the wife & I went to look at the Fuzion 325....We like it a lot!

Question for all you toy hauler owners....we're coming from a 42 foot Bunk House Fiver to this TH.....

Did any of you put a small dresser or cabinet down low in the garage for the kids to put their clothes and such? The 325 has cabinets but they're pretty high out of their reach. And if you did...do you have any photos or links to the cabinet/ dresser?

(tx)
Mark

We did. If you look at my posts you will see photos of what we did.

http://www.keystonerv.org/forums/showthread.php?p=121649#post121649

Has worked out perfectly.

[crash]

(tx) wing-in-it

[matandjen]

I LOVE having the built in generator. It has helped me numerous times getting out of a jam. We have also boondocked a few times and it has been great.

[Wing-in-it]

What a great rig....Got everything transferred over to the Fuzion today...Holy mackerel did we have a lot of work to do! LOVE the 6 point leveling system! I tell you one thing...this rig pulls a hell of a lot better than my Elkridge did....Much better ride. (40 mile trip home from dealer) Taking her out on the maiden voyage Thanksgiving weekend....we can't wait!:D

(tx) all for your input!

[EricLynnAllison]

We bought our toyhauler to have an extra bedroom for daughter's family. I built new cabinets for their stays.

[Wing-in-it]

We bought our toyhauler to have an extra bedroom for daughter's family. I built new cabinets for their stays.

Very nice work....I have some thinking to do!

(tx)

[kbravo1974]

We bought our toyhauler to have an extra bedroom for daughter's family. I built new cabinets for their stays.

Awesome What did you use for Wood and stain? The Match looks close I might try this with mine.

[ri_truck_guy]

What a great rig....Got everything transferred over to the Fuzion today...Holy mackerel did we have a lot of work to do! LOVE the 6 point leveling system! I tell you one thing...this rig pulls a hell of a lot better than my Elkridge did....Much better ride. (40 mile trip home from dealer) Taking her out on the maiden voyage Thanksgiving weekend....we can't wait!:D

(tx) all for your input!

Nice Mark....good luck with it. BTW, that dealer lot looks familiar.

[Wing-in-it]

Nice Mark....good luck with it. BTW, that dealer lot looks familiar.

Thank you.....& thanks for the input in the PM.....

Doesn't all dealer lots look alike.....LOL :D

[gtsum2]

I like the 325 as well

[abneynormal]

I will tell anyone who buys a th weigh it loaded. what it is rated and what it is are 2 different things. mine weighs 14000 on the 3 axles it gives me 4000 to spare. of course the drive is at 9000+
oh get the generator. when you travel from point to point you might lay over at a wal mart or a truck stop like I do. better to have it than not. we were thankful to have it during the 2011 tornados.

[Zapper]

Hey Mark, we take possession of a new 325 on 2/7. I'm wondering what you've learned since you got it...likes/dislikes...how does the 2500HD handle her, do you have air bags, really anything you've learned.

Thanks

[Wing-in-it]

Hey Mark, we take possession of a new 325 on 2/7. I'm wondering what you've learned since you got it...likes/dislikes...how does the 2500HD handle her, do you have air bags, really anything you've learned.

Thanks

Hi Lanny,

We have only had her out once, and it's a learning experience going from a Bunkhouse to a toy hauler. The only down fall of a toy hauler is the lack of basement space. Other than that...it's awesome!
It tows a lot better than my bunkhouse did. Pulls like a dream.

I already had airbags on the truck, I use the bags only for taking out the porpoising we were getting prior to putting the bags on. Tows great. I haven't scaled it yet, but I will when they fix the scales at work. It is lighter than my last fiver, but the pin weight is a little more.

You will love the 325, especially the 6 point leveling system....that is the ticket for sure! :D

[chill5500]

Howdy, we just recently upgraded from a 2013 Puma Unleashed 351THSS to the FZ40315 and absolutely love it. I too was sort of surprised at how high the garage cabinets/storage are but a step stool solves the issue for adults anyways, now that I've seen the kids dresser/storage I will be looking for something similar. Thanks for the idea, and I don't know if anyone has double checked the levelness of the auto level system but I noticed one night I was sleeping a little head low or felt un-level and sure enough after checking level at several different spots the trailer was not really level so I manually leveled it then re-calibrated the systems auto level. Just food for thought, I also noticed the furnace was not really blowing warm air near the front of the trailer or master bed & bath area and was quite loud in the bedroom as well so while I had removed the basement partitions/boards for a leak at the power flush connection I wrapped both the ducts with insulation and now they are much more efficient, I also installed some insulation board above the furnace between the aluminum square tubing floor frame which lessened the noise level in the bedroom dramatically.

[Zapper]

Thanks Mark, I appreciate your comments...I positively wasn't getting another RV with out auto level!

[Wing-in-it]

Howdy, we just recently upgraded from a 2013 Puma Unleashed 351THSS to the FZ40315 and absolutely love it. I too was sort of surprised at how high the garage cabinets/storage are but a step stool solves the issue for adults anyways, now that I've seen the kids dresser/storage I will be looking for something similar. Thanks for the idea, and I don't know if anyone has double checked the levelness of the auto level system but I noticed one night I was sleeping a little head low or felt un-level and sure enough after checking level at several different spots the trailer was not really level so I manually leveled it then re-calibrated the systems auto level. Just food for thought, I also noticed the furnace was not really blowing warm air near the front of the trailer or master bed & bath area and was quite loud in the bedroom as well so while I had removed the basement partitions/boards for a leak at the power flush connection I wrapped both the ducts with insulation and now they are much more efficient, I also installed some insulation board above the furnace between the aluminum square tubing floor frame which lessened the noise level in the bedroom dramatically.

Funny,you had a leak at the power flush too....we did as well......what a pain...had to empty the whole basement at the dumpstation to clean it out. Brought right back to the dealer and they fixed it that day. They also re labeled the black and grey tank valves correctly, they were reversed.

That's the only issue we have had so far. I can live with that.

[Wing-in-it]

Thanks Mark, I appreciate your comments...I positively wasn't getting another RV with out auto level!

No problem Lanny! Enjoy it!

[Zettwoch]

We've also been looking at this Fuzion 325 (at Holman), but I'm a little concerned with its massive hitch weight. TV is a Ram 2500 mega cab 4x4 diesel. I supposedly only have a cargo capacity of 1750 pounds not including the rest of me (accounts for 150 of my 270) or my wife and kids. So, after including that and a hitch, I'm probably down to about 1000 pounds of "allowable" cargo.

So, I was wondering if anyone with a Fuzion 325 has validated the hitch weight for this bad boy. The Ram 2500 has a RAWR of 6500, so even with a 9000 lb truck split 5300 to the front and 3700 to the rear, that would only leave 2800 left for hitch weight which to me seems a little risky for this TH.

For those of you with 3/4 ton trucks, do you seem to have a problem pulling this Fuzion 325?

[Kirro1000]

The hitch weight as given by Keystone appears to be a solid number for the pin.
I've CAT Scaled the trailer numerous times and in different configurations and this is what I've seen:
--Empty trailer ( full propane / full 60 gallons gas / no water ) pin = 2900 lbs
--Bikes in Garage ( full propane / full gas / 25 gallons h2o / 1500 lbs in garage )
Pin = 2700.
--Dry Camping ( full propane / full gas / full h2o / 500lbs in garage ) pin = 3200 lbs.

The 15' Sierra 2500 Dmax pulls it all day long at 65 mph and gets 11.5 - 12 mph. Starts great, stops great. Gonna need bags though.
This all said, ill be getting a DRW in the future. Run the numbers and you'll know why.

[PARAPTOR]

We've also been looking at this Fuzion 325 (at Holman), but I'm a little concerned with its massive hitch weight. TV is a Ram 2500 mega cab 4x4 diesel. I supposedly only have a cargo capacity of 1750 pounds not including the rest of me (accounts for 150 of my 270) or my wife and kids. So, after including that and a hitch, I'm probably down to about 1000 pounds of "allowable" cargo.

So, I was wondering if anyone with a Fuzion 325 has validated the hitch weight for this bad boy. The Ram 2500 has a RAWR of 6500, so even with a 9000 lb truck split 5300 to the front and 3700 to the rear, that would only leave 2800 left for hitch weight which to me seems a little risky for this TH.

For those of you with 3/4 ton trucks, do you seem to have a problem pulling this Fuzion 325?

Not sure what you are asking from us :confused:
Using your own numbers: available pay load of about 1000 lbs and a good number for the pin weight of these toy haulers is about 3000 lbs. Have 1K and need 3K :banghead:

Or are you asking how you rank with these other 2500 that are over their GVW pulling these toy haulers?

These toy haulers and 2500's are not a recommended match

Oh By the way Welcome to the Forum from Western PA.

There are numerous posts describing how to lookup and calculated capacities for your TV. You can use the search function to find these posts. There are active posts on this subject also.

[gtsum2]

We've also been looking at this Fuzion 325 (at Holman), but I'm a little concerned with its massive hitch weight. TV is a Ram 2500 mega cab 4x4 diesel. I supposedly only have a cargo capacity of 1750 pounds not including the rest of me (accounts for 150 of my 270) or my wife and kids. So, after including that and a hitch, I'm probably down to about 1000 pounds of "allowable" cargo.

So, I was wondering if anyone with a Fuzion 325 has validated the hitch weight for this bad boy. The Ram 2500 has a RAWR of 6500, so even with a 9000 lb truck split 5300 to the front and 3700 to the rear, that would only leave 2800 left for hitch weight which to me seems a little risky for this TH.

For those of you with 3/4 ton trucks, do you seem to have a problem pulling this Fuzion 325?

I like the 325 and was really looking hard at the 345 (not much more weight than the 325) and I have a 2014 Ram 3500 SRW with 4074lbs payload...I think with my family of 4 and a loaded rig ready to camp, I would be pushing right up against my payload limit with a 345. I dont see any way you would not be well over your payload rating with that TH and a 2500 truck. It is so close for my 3500, I am likely going with a XLR Thunderbolt as it is about 1k lighter dry weight and a listed pin about 400 less than the 345....