2012 v8 5.7 tundra cm tow pac

[tommyboy123]

Interested to know how large 5th wheel I can tow around this great country of ours and be on safe side looking at either 23rd jayco eagle or 2nd ab cougar Clute thanks Dobie

[cblong]

depends on your truck we need some more specifics. you have a 2012 tundra with the 5.7 but do you have the crew max cab or regular cab. Im not too familiar with toyota but most tow vehicles have a sticker either on the door jam or door itself that have some weight ratios listed. take a couple pictures of them and some specifics of your truck like cab and gear ratio. also look at your tires there should be a load index or weight rating on them too. after you find those ill help decipher them for you.

[tommyboy123]

My tundra is crewman short bed 410 rear end 7000gvw 10000 of towing capable 1060 hitch wt. It comes with tow package have on brake controller thanks

[JRTJH]

Start with the maximum payload on the yellow sticker on your door (probably about 1200 lbs) and subtract 150 lbs for your fifth wheel hitch, then subtract the weight of any passengers, cargo you "must carry" in the bed of your truck and the weight of anything you have added since the truck was new (running boards, cargo mat, bed liner, mud flaps, etc. What is left is the maximum "loaded weight" of the fifth wheel pin. After you calculate that estimate, start looking for a fifth wheel with a "loaded pin weight" that is less than that and you'll find your options for fifth wheels.

[tommyboy123]

Thanks so much Tommyboy

[KanTC]

Tommyboy,

Check the "towing section" of your Owners Manual... if I remember correctly, a few years ago, the CrewMax
short bed [5.6 ft] was not recommended to tow a 5th wheel. That may have changed for the newer models, but
would be good to know before you start shopping. ;)

Terri, the Chevy co-pilot :)

[buzzcop63]

Just looked up the 2014 Tundra Manual and the highest load capability was with the SR model with the 5.7V8, load rate was 1,595/1,500. Check the pin weight of the 5th wheel that you are interested in, then take your trucks listed load rate and then deduct what JRTCH has listed and you will most likely find that the 5th wheel is too heavy, like the 1/2 ton Cougars 5th wheels. As far as the Tundra being able tow the 5th wheel, many of them are out on the road as well as other 1/2-ton trucks, but are they safe?

[cblong]

is that 1060 lbs hitch weight what the book says or did you do any calculations to find that. Ill spitball a few things here to get in the ball park.
GVWR 7,000
Curb weight 5,625
fuel 26 gal 208
hitch 120
passengers 300
total 747

so I took some liberties with the weights here curb weight is the base truck no options if you have leather seats and carpet that will add more. fuel you have a 26 gallon tank at 8 lbs per gallon. hitch most hitches are in the 120-150 pound range. with a short bed like is in the crew max you probably will need a slider or auto slider witch is even heaver. hitch weight is not just the hitch but also the rails and any other mounting hardware too. passengers I did what the car companies do and put in two 150 pound people adjust that part accordingly. so that leaves 747 pounds of available payload. I know your truck could do more but thats what the numbers say. theres also one caveat here to remember. any weight you put in that fifth wheel in front of the wheels adds to the pin weight of that camper. when keystone labels a fifth wheel half ton towable they use a base model regular cab heavy tow package capable truck to say that. just because its labeled half ton towable doesn't mean yours could do it. that being said I think your truck could pull one of the x-lite fiver's. but you would be exceeding your trucks capabilities on paper.

[Bob Landry]

Shaving a pound or two here and there for upholstery or whatever is not going to matter. You are going to exceed the Toyota's axle rating with a loaded 5th wheel.

[GaryWT]

You might want to look at a few travel trailers instead. Some of the smaller ones should have a tongue weight that will work for you.

[tommyboy123]

Your numbers are pretty right on. Truck weight and everything . With that said I know you know a lot more about this than I do. Appreciate it sincerely 5th wheel looking at is the Cougar 26 SAB THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT

[grayghost03]

One quick item of Note, vehicle curb weight includes all consumables. Including coolant, oil, and full tank of fuel in factory installed tank. Not a lot of weight added back, but the fuel is part of curb weight, so you don't add that to curb weight, it is part of curb weight.

[65aircooled]

FWIW, I just traded my 2011 Tundra DC Limited 4X4 for the same reason. Payload was 1450#, my trailer pretty much empty, all tanks dry and the four of us (I am the heaviest at 210#, and two boys 10 and 9) pretty much maxed the payload. Granted, we bought too much trailer for the TV, but, we didn't want to be cramped in a 24-15ish trailer. It pulled ok, struggled at times and it stopped with out much of an issue, but anything I put on the bed was already over the limit. I really wanted a 5th wheel but didn't have the truck for it. I tried to convinced myself that the Tundra was capable of it, even some of the boys over at TundraTalk.net said it was ok:roll eyes: but in the end I came to my senses.
After a couple of trips we decided it was time to go back to an HD truck, so we traded the Tundra in (had 30K miles on her). Now I have a capable truck and I am stuck with a bumper pull, go figure!

The Tundra is a great truck, but at the end of the day it still is a 1/2 ton truck, and when it comes to towing and payload, they are pretty limited. As you will find out soon, camping and payload need to coexist;)