Any Fuzion 322 or 310 owners towing with a GMC 2500 HD?

[jaeger63]

I'd like to hear from any Raptor 300MP, Fuzion 322 or Fuzion 310 owners who are towing with a 2500HD Duramax. These are the toy haulers I've been seriously researching and hoping to find a good deal on a used one here in the near future. I'm now questioning whether or not I can safely pull one of these models with my 2010 GMC 2500 HD Duramax. It appears the pin weight will exceed the payload rating by a few hundred pounds after I load the camper with water, fuel, and cargo. However I would still be well within the GCVWR. I'm not afraid to go over a little on the payload rating as long as its not unsafe. BTW I do have airbags but I doubt that makes any difference as far as safety goes? Thanks for any input!

[Festus2]

You might want to read the recent posts in the Towing section in the "5th Wheel Hitch Recommendations". A similar question was asked there.

[C130]

What's your GCVWR on the Duramax? I pull a 2011 Fuzion 322 Touring Edition with a 2011 F250 so assume the trucks are similar. It pulls it fine but my next truck will probably be a dually. I'd rather have too much truck than not enough. Part of my problem is I don't put enough weight in the garage of the toy hauler making my pin weight higher than it should be I think. I have air bags on the truck and the only thing I don't like is Texas has a lot of concrete roads and the joints cause the truck and trailer to bounce and it's pretty bad at certain speeds. I'm not sure this has anything to do with the truck or just part of pulling a 5th wheel. I'm looking at installing a Trailair Tri-Glide to the 5th wheel to see if this helps. Just got home from camping for a week and the truck pulls the 322 great power wise but I'd love to pull it with a dually one time just to compare how it feels.

[jaeger63]

Thanks much C130. I do appreciate the reply.

[Al Sandoval]

I'd like to hear from any Raptor 300MP, Fuzion 322 or Fuzion 310 owners who are towing with a 2500HD Duramax. These are the toy haulers I've been seriously researching and hoping to find a good deal on a used one here in the near future. I'm now questioning whether or not I can safely pull one of these models with my 2010 GMC 2500 HD Duramax. It appears the pin weight will exceed the payload rating by a few hundred pounds after I load the camper with water, fuel, and cargo. However I would still be well within the GCVWR. I'm not afraid to go over a little on the payload rating as long as its not unsafe. BTW I do have airbags but I doubt that makes any difference as far as safety goes? Thanks for any input!
Pull a Fuzion 322 with F 350 dully all over USA handle and pulls great

[jaeger63]

C130 my GVWR on my 2500 duramax is 9200. What is it on your F250? Man I had no idea this was so involved with all the weight numbers and trying to stay legal! Have you ever been stopped by State patrol or had to pull onto scales? If so, were you within the correct weight limits?

[Wing-in-it]

I too have a HD2500 Duramax & was thinking the same way as you & decided NOT to buy the toy hauler, because the numbers just aren't there.

Pin weight on the 310 is 2770

Pin weight on the 322 is 2895

Per Keystone

Look at your "payload" capacity. Mine is an "08" it's 2741lb. 2 wheel drive & crew cab

Total your 29lbs over gvwr without the Hitch, fuel & passengers. And that's with the lighter 31 Fuzion.

No matter how you look at it you'll be over the limit. These toy haulers are just plain heavy & you got to have a bigger truck. JMHO

Mark

[Dwighop]

I see these overloaded trucks every week at the dirt track. It is scary to think most have no idea how heavy these things are.

[C130]

C130 my GVWR on my 2500 duramax is 9200. What is it on your F250? Man I had no idea this was so involved with all the weight numbers and trying to stay legal! Have you ever been stopped by State patrol or had to pull onto scales? If so, were you within the correct weight limits?

My F250 is 10,000 pounds. I'd say 80%-90% of the trucks pulling 5th wheels, at least the toy haulers, are technically overloaded. I've never had an issue but I'm very close to the limit. I had it weighed once but the guy operating the scales was beyond worthless and had no interest in really helping me. I think I really needed to unhook and get the total weight of the truck with all of us in it then weigh again with the toy hauler attached.

Question, does the published pin weight of the toy haulers assume the garage is at max allowed capacity therefore reducing the pin weight to their published numbers? The pin weight was my issue, higher than published by several hundred pounds. I now keep the fresh water tank near full therefore reducing the pin weight. I have friends pulling the 40'-42' toy haulers with F250's and I'd definitely stay away from that size without a bigger truck. I've never heard of anyone having and issue with the police though, not saying its okay, just not an issue that I know of. Dually is the way to go but most people are not going to drive one for daily use. My son turns 13 next week and my plan is to give him my truck when he's 16 and I'll get a dually for myself then I don't have to worry about it. I'm not sure the dually's are legal either though with the 42 foot toy haulers. I was at a motocross track last year and a guy pulled up with a brand new 42'-43' toy hauler decked out to the max. Custom ordered, 3 AC's, double pane windows, fully body paint, etc. Numerous dirt bikes and a razor in the garage. Pulling it with an older model F250 and he said it pulled it fine. A friend with a brand new F350 dually pulling a similar toy hauler told the guy he was full of crap. The guy had a hard time just backing it in to his spot, truck bed twisted every which way while he was turning. He was extremely overloaded and pulling the nicest toy hauler I've ever seen.

[SAD]

My opinion (perhaps not a popular one) is, as long as you are OK on your rear axle weight.... Meaning the lower of either: a) tire capacity stamped on sidewall at proper inflation or b) GAWR on your federal/DOT label stamped in door jamb... You will be "ok".

The discussion that gets "interesting" is using GVWR for determining payload VS using rear GAWR...

What is true however, is "safe" is a state of being rather than a specific weight. A guy pulling a pair of jetskis with a dually can be UNsafe; while a guy pulling a large 5er with a 2500/250 can be SAFE...

[bsmith0404]

You might want to read the recent posts in the Towing section in the "5th Wheel Hitch Recommendations". A similar question was asked there.

Same guy looking for specific input from someone with the RV he wants to buy.

What's your GCVWR on the Duramax? I pull a 2011 Fuzion 322 Touring Edition with a 2011 F250 so assume the trucks are similar. It pulls it fine but my next truck will probably be a dually. I'd rather have too much truck than not enough. Part of my problem is I don't put enough weight in the garage of the toy hauler making my pin weight higher than it should be I think. I have air bags on the truck and the only thing I don't like is Texas has a lot of concrete roads and the joints cause the truck and trailer to bounce and it's pretty bad at certain speeds. I'm not sure this has anything to do with the truck or just part of pulling a 5th wheel. I'm looking at installing a Trailair Tri-Glide to the 5th wheel to see if this helps. Just got home from camping for a week and the truck pulls the 322 great power wise but I'd love to pull it with a dually one time just to compare how it feels.

Get a mor-ryde or trail air pin box, that will take most of the bounce out of your trailer. After feeling the difference, I won't own another one without it. I've heard some people claim balance of the trailer will take care of it too, but you could spend days trying to figure out how to load your gear to get the proper balance, if that is in fact the case.

[720Deere]

What you need to know is what your ready to travel rear axle weight is on your truck. Add the advertised pin weight plus at least 5% to that weight and you will find out real quick what your truck is capable of. If your tires are only rated for 3042 lbs each, you are going to be well beyond safe with any of the mentioned trailers. Some 18" tires are rated for 3640 and 20" at 3750. Tires are going to be your limiting factor since even though your particular truck may list a lighter rating, the rear axle is rated beyond what you need by its manufacturer.

[SAD]

What you need to know is what your ready to travel rear axle weight is on your truck....

Very important point I neglected to mention. Fill truck with fuel, wife, dog, cooler, firewood, etc.... Get weighed (separate front and rear axle weights)...

Regardless of which method utilized for determining payload (GVWR or GAWR), knowing what you have available with your truck loaded and optioned like you bought it... It's important.

[jaeger63]

720 deere,
I'm not sure what the current tires I'm running are rated at. There not the stock tires that came on the truck but are instead BF Goodrich mud terrains. What rating would you say I need on my truck to be safe for any of the toy haulers mentioned at the beginning of this post. I'm currently deployed overseas for work and cannot go check my tires for the rating. Thanks much

I'm very impressed at the amount of knowledge available on this site. For someone like myself who is looking to buy his first RV the information I'm gaining is so valuable! Thanks very much to all who have posted!

[bsmith0404]

tires for 2500s are going to be E rated, regardless if they are stock or not. Illegal for tire dealers to put less on due to GVWR. E rated tires on a 16" or 17" wheel are going to be rated right around 3200 lbs. That will match up with your axle rating.

[C130]

My rear GAWR is 6100 pounds and GVWR is 10,000 pounds on my 2011 F250. I can't find the paperwork from my one time I had it weighed but if I do I'll publish the numbers. I have air bags installed but only run about 20 psi in them as it seems to sit about level or slightly nose high. It had very little sag without the airbags, 1"-2" at most.

You'll have no issues pulling the 322 but its hard to stay within the legal limits on a single rear wheel truck. Watch how many trucks pulling 5th wheels are DRW though, not very many. I do know my next truck will be a dually though. Interested in seeing what he weights increase to on the 2015 trucks also.

[Cnc_hemi]

I have a 310. And my 2012 sierra 2500 hd handles it like a dream. Loaded or unloaded. Have pulled it to destin fl 4 times in the last 12 months from Baton Rouge. The truck has never bottomed out but I did add air bags to help level the camper. Truck only sits about 1" lower with the 310 then it did with my old Laredo.


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[Cnc_hemi]

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This pic was before I added the air bags.

LSU TIGER FAN
2013 FUZION 310
2012 GMC 2500 HD SIERRA DURAMAX 6.6L

[Htfiremedic]

What's your GCVWR on the Duramax? I pull a 2011 Fuzion 322 Touring Edition with a 2011 F250 so assume the trucks are similar. It pulls it fine but my next truck will probably be a dually. I'd rather have too much truck than not enough. Part of my problem is I don't put enough weight in the garage of the toy hauler making my pin weight higher than it should be I think. I have air bags on the truck and the only thing I don't like is Texas has a lot of concrete roads and the joints cause the truck and trailer to bounce and it's pretty bad at certain speeds. I'm not sure this has anything to do with the truck or just part of pulling a 5th wheel. I'm looking at installing a Trailair Tri-Glide to the 5th wheel to see if this helps. Just got home from camping for a week and the truck pulls the 322 great power wise but I'd love to pull it with a dually one time just to compare how it feels.


I have to second that. I moved up from an F250 to an F350 DRW. the stability is amazing, the ride is better and DW is happier!


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[rnkburg]

720 deere,
I'm not sure what the current tires I'm running are rated at. There not the stock tires that came on the truck but are instead BF Goodrich mud terrains. What rating would you say I need on my truck to be safe for any of the toy haulers mentioned at the beginning of this post. I'm currently deployed overseas for work and cannot go check my tires for the rating. Thanks much

I'm very impressed at the amount of knowledge available on this site. For someone like myself who is looking to buy his first RV the information I'm gaining is so valuable! Thanks very much to all who have posted!

The lugs from the mud terrain will make the truck walk with the weight on it.

Someone posted that all the tires will be e rated when out on, that is incorrect. Many 3/4 trucks owners on the road have put oversized tires on them, maybe its one or two sizes up, or maybe its much larger. Tire shops will put a D rated tire on there as some of the larger d rated tires have the same weight capacity. I am not getting into the great truck debate but just want to bring up those two tire points.



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[jaeger63]

mkburg,
What do you mean by mud terrains"making the truck walk" ?

[JRTJH]

The deep lugs on the "Mud tire" will tend to "fold over" or "squish" against the pavement and the tread will not "track true" with the forward motion of the tire when under a heavy load. This causes the tow vehicle to be unpredictable in where it's going to "track" and it doesn't always "follow the steering wheel". The heavier the load, the more problem there is.

I've seen this with "Mud grips" and "deep cleat snow tires". It's especially true on Armstrong Tru-Tracks, Mickey Thompson Mud Grips and similar tires. It's difficult to even tow a heavy boat trailer behind some trucks with the Armstrong's on the tow vehicle.

[C130]

Same guy looking for specific input from someone with the RV he wants to buy.



Get a mor-ryde or trail air pin box, that will take most of the bounce out of your trailer. After feeling the difference, I won't own another one without it. I've heard some people claim balance of the trailer will take care of it too, but you could spend days trying to figure out how to load your gear to get the proper balance, if that is in fact the case.

Trying to buy a used Trailair Tri Glide from a guy that's had it for sale for months, at least 6 or more. He's asking $1000, they are easily found online new for $1200 or slight under. Trying to figure out a great price to offer him otherwise I'll buy new if its not a great deal. Any suggestions on price? I'm thinking $500 but not sure what they sell for in the used market. I assume since he's had it for sale for a long time there's not a high demand or he's unreasonable on his price.

[rnkburg]

The deep lugs on the "Mud tire" will tend to "fold over" or "squish" against the pavement and the tread will not "track true" with the forward motion of the tire when under a heavy load. This causes the tow vehicle to be unpredictable in where it's going to "track" and it doesn't always "follow the steering wheel". The heavier the load, the more problem there is.

I've seen this with "Mud grips" and "deep cleat snow tires". It's especially true on Armstrong Tru-Tracks, Mickey Thompson Mud Grips and similar tires. It's difficult to even tow a heavy boat trailer behind some trucks with the Armstrong's on the tow vehicle.


Yep you nailed it. Exactly what I was talking about, y'all just got to overlook my Redneck terminology here


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[bsmith0404]

Trying to buy a used Trailair Tri Glide from a guy that's had it for sale for months, at least 6 or more. He's asking $1000, they are easily found online new for $1200 or slight under. Trying to figure out a great price to offer him otherwise I'll buy new if its not a great deal. Any suggestions on price? I'm thinking $500 but not sure what they sell for in the used market. I assume since he's had it for sale for a long time there's not a high demand or he's unreasonable on his price.

I started the hijack based on comments made on how the toy haulers pull, so I guess I'll try to complete it. If the hitch is in good shape 50-60% of new price is more than a fair buy for you. It all comes down to how much are you will to pay for a used one before it just makes more sense to buy new. IMO, if it's in good shape and you could get it for $750, that still saves you around $400+, plus sales tax. As far as the difference the hitch makes, priceless.
Hijack complete.

[Festus2]

I started the hijack based on comments made on how the toy haulers pull, so I guess I'll try to complete it. ...............
Hijack complete.

Now that the hijack is over, perhaps we can now get back to the topic submitted by the original poster. :D Now, what was that again....:confused:

[jaeger63]

"I now keep the fresh water tank near full therefore reducing the pin weight."

C130,
So having your fresh water tank full does in fact reduce your pin weight? Thats very interesting. I guess the tank must be closer to the rear of the camper? How much does the full tank reduce your pin weight? So does the term "dry camp" mean your camping remotely away from any campground hook ups? Do most of the organized campgrounds have water hook ups as well as electrical? I ask because I will almost always camp in remote areas such as National Forest and such and will almost always tow with a full tank of water, fuel, etc. Thanks much

[C130]

Fresh water tank on the Fuzion 322 is in the very rear of the trailer. 112 gallons I think so a little over 900 pounds. I don't know how much it reduces the pin weight but a full tank should lower it some. When we go camping we just haul four bicycles, charcoal grill, cooler, chairs, etc. but nothing very heavy in the garage. We camp a lot at a Texas State Park about an hour and a half away and they have full hookups; electrical, sewer, and water. A lot of the Texas State Parks don't have sewer which is a must for us as we fill up the grey tanks in two days. The toy haulers also have fuel tanks in the rear which can also add several hundred pound if full, one of mine is always empty and the other has very little.

[Jeff and Rita]

We just bought a Fuzion 310 . I own a 2013 Chevrolet 2500 HD with Duramax. It pulled very good. No handling issues at all. But after reading some of these post I think that I will install air bags in the near future.

[Cnc_hemi]

Pulled my 310 for the first time this year yesterday with the air bags and new tires. Pulled great the bags leveled the camper really nice and helped with out rough roads here in Louisiana. Checking out a brand new campground in new Iberia this weekend.


LSU TIGER FAN
2013 FUZION 310
2012 GMC 2500 HD SIERRA DURAMAX 6.6L

[Jeff and Rita]

Right now I am playing in the Sand here in Saudi Arabia..... I can't wait to get home. Already planning a weekend trip in the Fuzion 310. We live in DeRidder and are planning to go to Lake Sam Rayburn in the Great State Of Texas...

[ocho]

I'd like to hear from any Raptor 300MP, Fuzion 322 or Fuzion 310 owners who are towing with a 2500HD Duramax. These are the toy haulers I've been seriously researching and hoping to find a good deal on a used one here in the near future. I'm now questioning whether or not I can safely pull one of these models with my 2010 GMC 2500 HD Duramax. It appears the pin weight will exceed the payload rating by a few hundred pounds after I load the camper with water, fuel, and cargo. However I would still be well within the GCVWR. I'm not afraid to go over a little on the payload rating as long as its not unsafe. BTW I do have airbags but I doubt that makes any difference as far as safety goes? Thanks for any input!

Where are yall getting this payload capacity rating? I have an 08 GMC 2500 HD Gas single rear wheels and my payload capacity is 3760 lbs!! Are yall sure your reading this right? :confused:

[canesfan]

Where are yall getting this payload capacity rating? I have an 08 GMC 2500 HD Gas single rear wheels and my payload capacity is 3760 lbs!! Are yall sure your reading this right? :confused:
Is that your actual figured payload or the printed payload per GM? If the printed, that is for a stripped down, bare bones base model with no options.

Mine, granted it has the diesel which adds about 600lbs if I remember right, has a payload of 3342 per GM, and in reality of 1603 lbs after all is said and done. That's how much I have left to put kingpin wise on my truck after everything else, and I travel light. You have to do the math and can't rely on what GM, Ford, or Dodge prints. You'll be surprised what you come up. I can easily show you the figures if you'd like.

[ocho]

Is that your actual figured payload or the printed payload per GM? If the printed, that is for a stripped down, bare bones base model with no options.

Mine, granted it has the diesel which adds about 600lbs if I remember right, has a payload of 3342 per GM, and in reality of 1603 lbs after all is said and done. That's how much I have left to put kingpin wise on my truck after everything else, and I travel light. You have to do the math and can't rely on what GM, Ford, or Dodge prints. You'll be surprised what you come up. I can easily show you the figures if you'd like.

Stripped down? How many options are available for the rear end of a truck that would affect the payload capacity? Don't mean to be a smart ***, but when GM publishes a payload capacity I would assume that's the payload capacity. Mine is a long bed, single cab basic truck with a few options.

I say this because if you look in the book or online, the payload capacity is published for each truck and how its equipped. For instance, My truck will be higher because its a long bed, 2wd single cab. It will be less for 4wd, crewcab, etc.

[JRTJH]

It's the same with Ford. I have a 2013 F250 supercab 4x4 long bed 10K GVW. Ford advertises the payload in the specs at 3350. The sticker on the door says 2740. When I weighed it with wife, dog, wheelwell liners, floor mats, fifth wheel hitch, full fuel and a "few" other things (GPS, maps, umbrella, protection device, etc) the actual weight was 7580 leaving an actual payload of 2420. That's 1/3 less than advertised on the Ford website. If I had the 6.7L diesel it would be down below 2000 lbs remaining.

The only "really accurate" way to know what you can carry is to load up, hit the scale and "do the math"........

Although I haven't actually verified this, I'd guess that Dodge advertises and calculates their payload the same way as Ford and GM.

ADDED: Ocho: I guess you were responding the same time I was, so I'm editing this post to include comments on your response. For Ford, (Here's the link to the payload info: http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/) the advertised payload is for the BASE truck in each category. That's for the stripped down XL model. There are also different calculations for the supercab and crewcab in each version (2x4/4x4) and in each wheelbase length. What they don't advertise is, as you say, "the options" when you consider a "base truck" with hand crank windows, no carpet, no chrome, no cruise, light weight 17" wheels, 8 ply "small" tires, vinyl seat with little cushion, no tow hooks, no leather, heated/cooled seats, no electric options, no soundproofing materials, no "in bed hooks" no reading lights, no individual heat/ac controls, no console, no ??? The XLT weighs more than the XL, the Lariat weighs more than the XLT, etc on up the line. It's easy to see that the Platinum model will weigh significantly more than the base truck, so the payload will go down significantly with all those "extra weight options" that make up the "creature comforts" we add to the base truck. I hope this helps some with your calculations.....

[canesfan]

Like John says, weigh your truck, loaded like you are going camping, than subtract that from the publish GVWR. Don't go by the payload number. IMO they shouldn't even print that, it gives people a false sense of security.

[ocho]

Like John says, weigh your truck, loaded like you are going camping, than subtract that from the publish GVWR. Don't go by the payload number. IMO they shouldn't even print that, it gives people a false sense of security.

Do you mean with the 5er hooked up? Or unhitched and just fuel, camping gear, firewood or whatever else might be in back?

[Kristi]

Do you mean with the 5er hooked up? Or unhitched and just fuel, camping gear, firewood or whatever else might be in back?

Just the truck ready to hook up & go. That will give you your truest #s. For example, our 2009 crew cab 4x4 duramax z21 ready to hook up is 7071 lbs, leaving us 2029 for possible pin weight - 100 for the companion hitch we plan to buy. Assuming I added that right....

[canesfan]

Yep, just the truck loaded with everything and everybody. Subtract that number from your GVWR. My last weigh was 7640, I had a bit extra stuff in it. 9200 GVWR - 7640 = 1560 payload capacity left for fiver. :(

[JRTJH]

Ocho,

When you're shopping and want to know how much weight you can add with the pin weight of a fifth wheel or with the tongue weight of a trailer, weigh the truck as you'll be travelling. That will give you a good "GENERAL" idea of how much extra weight you can add in the form of trailer weight.

THEN: When you buy the trailer (or if the dealer will let you) weigh the truck as it's ready to travel with the trailer hitched. That will give you an idea on what the trailer will add to your payload. REMEMBER: that the "empty" trailer will increase in pin weight/tongue weight significantly as you load it for travel. Once you have the trailer loaded for travel, on the way out of town for your first trip, stop at the scales to get your "real world" weights. Only then will you really know what your truck/trailer really weighs and whether you're over/under/just right...... Anything other than a scale slip showing the real world weight is "reduced" to a "best guess" and that's not a real good idea when you're close to being at payload.

On most 3/4 ton trucks, the payload is not as "great" as many owners think. I've seen some 38' and 40' fifth wheels being "lugged down the road" by F250 and C2500 trucks. It's obvious to any casual observer (state police/Commercial traffic enforcement) who is in the know that those rigs are "over payload"..... How much? Only a scale slip will show that...... I think that canesfan will agree that if you "believe" the GM specs data "advertised payload" for their 2500 series trucks and use that weight to buy a fifth wheel, you'll find that in almost every case, you'll be overloaded when you do get around to weighing your rig. There are very few "equipped as we use them" trucks that come close to the advertised "maximum payload" you'll find in the GM, Ford or Dodge sales brochure. Most 3/4 ton trucks have a 2000-2500 lb payload. Diesels are 400-600 lbs less payload than the same truck with a gas engine.

[ocho]

Ok, So I have weighed my truck. But first here are some numbers. I have the 2500 HD Long bed 2wd. Its the WT model with a few options. GM says the curb weight is 5120 lbs. My truck weighs 5800 lbs. The max CVWR is 9200 lbs. Therefore my max load capacity is 3400 lbs. When my 300MP is loaded, (golf cart, Harley, and food and clothes), it weighs 14,500 lbs. The tongue weight at that time is 2500 lbs., roughly 19%. Well within limits. Now, if my trailer is unloaded my tongue weight is 2700 lbs. or roughly 21%.

Am I missing something?

If not, I got lots of overhead for a cooler, a few cases of beer, and a 100 lbs or so of crawfish!!

[PARAPTOR]

Ok, So I have weighed my truck. But first here are some numbers. I have the 2500 HD Long bed 2wd. Its the WT model with a few options. GM says the curb weight is 5120 lbs. My truck weighs 5800 lbs. The max CVWR is 9200 lbs. Therefore my max load capacity is 3400 lbs. When my 300MP is loaded, (golf cart, Harley, and food and clothes), it weighs 14,500 lbs. The tongue weight at that time is 2500 lbs., roughly 19%. Well within limits. Now, if my trailer is unloaded my tongue weight is 2700 lbs. or roughly 21%.

Am I missing something?

If not, I got lots of overhead for a cooler, a few cases of beer, and a 100 lbs or so of crawfish!!

If that is what your truck weighs loaded ready to go, that is where you are. With your truck you have all cards stacked on your side. work truck, 2x2, and I assume a 6.0 gasser (I assume). My guess is GCWR is 22K so your around 92.3% of that. A 6.0 gasser and 14,500 lbs.

Now others with diesel, EC or CC, eat up that margin and go over GVWR easily. With that Raptor and 2500HD easily half ton and more over its GVWR.

Sorry used that reference GVWR :eek:

[ocho]

If that is what your truck weighs loaded ready to go, that is where you are. With your truck you have all cards stacked on your side. work truck, 2x2, and I assume a 6.0 gasser (I assume). My guess is GCWR is 22K so your around 92.3% of that. A 6.0 gasser and 14,500 lbs.

Now others with diesel, EC or CC, eat up that margin and go over GVWR easily. With that Raptor and 2500HD easily half ton and more over its GVWR.

Sorry used that reference GVWR :eek:

GM says that my GCVRW of this truck is 20500. Ive read some where online that its is much higher if the load is a fifth wheel. I cant seem to find that , but if someone can and post here that would be great. Given those numbers I limit my 300MP gross weight to 14,800. Which is really no big deal because my 300MP loaded is 14,500 lbs. I can go up to 16,455 lbs., but I don't have that much stuff or a truck to pull it. I guess there is a couple hundred pounds variance either way, but I feel comfortable with where im at. And yeah, its the 6.0 L gasser and 6 spd auto.

[ocho]

Truck, 300MP, Harley, and golf cart is 20,300 lbs. Im close but still under limits.