ProPride on order

[chartrand]

Just ordered my ProPride, I'll post pictures of the install. Its going on a Premier 22RBPR. I have a Dodge Durango and it has a short wheelbase, so even with a properly configured Equalizer I get a few white knuckle moments. Looking forward to this upgrade.

Pat

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[eartha]

Just ordered my ProPride, I'll post pictures of the install. Its going on a Premier 22RBPR. I have a Dodge Durango and it has a short wheelbase, so even with a properly configured Equalizer I get a few white knuckle moments. Looking forward to this upgrade.

Pat

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They are heavy and pricey but they do the job and you can forget about the sway problem. Safety has no price.

[unyalli]

It's a whole new experience. The two vehicles become one. Ensure you keep the load bar pivots greased. Pump them full till it's coming out the bottom then a few pumps every 1000 miles like the instructions state.

Jeff

[cabinfever]

Also be sure to adjust the brake gain to avoid the Hensley/ ProPride bump. I will be picking up my used Hensley when the weather permits and can't wait to get it installed and set up.

[chartrand]

It's a whole new experience. The two vehicles become one. Ensure you keep the load bar pivots greased. Pump them full till it's coming out the bottom then a few pumps every 1000 miles like the instructions state.



Jeff


Good to know, I knew about setting break controller to avoid the bump, but was not aware of the load bar greasing, thanks!!

[unyalli]

Good to know, I knew about setting break controller to avoid the bump, but was not aware of the load bar greasing, thanks!!

Can you report if you ever feel this "bump" I've only recently heard about? I put a few thousand miles on my 3P both with my 05 F150 and my 12 F250 and never experienced any odd behavior of any kind. The only strange thing that would happen is forgetting for a second I was towing.

Jeff

[chartrand]

Yes I can talk about it if it ever happens, but setting the controller properly will hopefully prevent it from happening.

[Goingfor9]

Mine is supposed to be here Monday. Hope to get it installed Tuesday.

[unyalli]

Have you pre-read the instructions? Do you have a Torque Wrench capable of 250 lb ft?

[chartrand]

Have you pre-read the instructions? Do you have a Torque Wrench capable of 250 lb ft?

Ordered a calibrated Snap-On torque wrench that does 250lb last week and it's arrived already. I'm well versed on the instructions now. I've been over them several times now and used the picture journal found here:; http://www.flickr.com/photos/rests/3560871259/in/set-72157618684477177/ to follow along. I think I understand things pretty good now and I'm ready.

[unyalli]

Excellent, it's a heck of an install but completely worth it.

[audio1der]

LUCKY!!!
Please share everything you feel may be valuable to other potential owners; we'll be reading!
We've talked about downsizing as 32' is a lot for our Ram 1500, but don't want to lose features not found on smaller units (full outdoor kitchen, 2nd door to washroom, etc).
I've pretty much decided on a P3 to solve my towing issues. It's pricey. but less than we'd lose on the trade and like posted above, safety has no price.
In my reading, it's been enlightening to see how many TT owners convert from the Reese dual cam setup to Propride. Nothing against the Reese system if it works for ya, but apparently its often not enough.

Thanks for sharing; I look forward to reding all about your thoughts, install and reviews.

[chartrand]

LUCKY!!!
Nothing against the Reese system if it works for ya, but apparently its often not enough.

Thanks for sharing; I look forward to reding all about your thoughts, install and reviews.

I currently have an Equalizer 4 point sway control, and feel the same as you and your Reese. The equalizer hitch is good, I just want better. For me I have a 2011 Dodge Durango and it's got a short wheel base compared with many trucks, so right off the bat I need as much help as I can get. I believe the P3 is ultimate hitch for my setup and I can't wait. I have another bonus.... I live in Michigan so I'm planning to drive over to Grand Blanc where they are made and pick mine up when it's ready."bouncey:

[Clicker]

Just ordered my 3P too. Will be installing it on our 2014 Cougar 32SAB.

[chartrand]

Just ordered my 3P too. Will be installing it on our 2014 Cougar 32SAB.

Well that did not take you long, you just sent me a pm earlier tonight.

So just a thought.. Did you order the cover and the extension kit as well?


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[PT RV`er]

What is the over all weight of the hitch itself? I tried to look for the info but I don`t see it posted anywhere on their website.

[chartrand]

I'm not exactly sure what the weight is, and it probably increases with the model you buy. What I can tell you is I purchased the 1000 version (most common size I think) along with the extension kit and cover kit. UPS shipping e-mail says it weighs 235 lb (that would include the boxes, packing foam, the kits above, tools and the stinger, not just the hitch). Posts in RV.net say between 100 and 150 lbs. And I did take a quick look at the propride web site as well and was unable to find the weight either. I'm sure you could contact the company and find out for sure though. Then keep in mind, that weight is then distributed to all the axles with the weight distribution part of the hitch.

[bfurry78]

I installed one on my Laredo 291TG last year. My TV is a 2004 Chevy 2500HD Duramax Extended Cab Short Bed. I have loved ever since and have never experienced the "bump". I did the install myself with no help in an afternoon. I emailed the owner a lot and found a ton on the web in order to aid me in the install. I know your going to love this hitch as I went from an Equalizer to the PP. Let me know if you have any questions as I know what its like to venture in uncharted waters!

[Goingfor9]

Got mine installed last week and finally got to pull with it today. Holy cow what a differance. Trucks passing me with no push or pull. Wind blowing 10-15 absolutely no affect at all. My last hitch you felt everything. Now, besides the weight of the trailer when I start up, I hardly even know its back there. What a great hitch.

[JRTJH]

Got mine installed last week and finally got to pull with it today. Holy cow what a differance. Trucks passing me with no push or pull. Wind blowing 10-15 absolutely no affect at all. My last hitch you felt everything. Now, besides the weight of the trailer when I start up, I hardly even know its back there. What a great hitch.

The Hensley and/or ProPride hitch will certainly dampen trailer sway and make for much more comfortable towing, but don't be lulled into thinking it controls all the potential sway. In a strong gust of wind, your entire rig can still be pushed into the next lane just as readily as it would have been with any other hitch. You've still got the same size "sidewall sail" catching wind and still can get blown around under the right conditions.

[thewhitehat]

Have you pre-read the instructions? Do you have a Torque Wrench capable of 250 lb ft?

Wow! You really need to apply 250 foot pounds during installation?:eek:

[chartrand]

Got mine installed last week and finally got to pull with it today. Holy cow what a differance. Trucks passing me with no push or pull. Wind blowing 10-15 absolutely no affect at all. My last hitch you felt everything. Now, besides the weight of the trailer when I start up, I hardly even know its back there. What a great hitch.

So what happens when you back up? I have not installed mine yet so I dont know for my self just yet. My curosity is around the "Bump" you read about, which I can help prevent with setting my break controller, but when your backing into a spot does it Bump at all?

[unyalli]

I question this bump nonsense.

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[thewhitehat]

Never experienced a bump myself. But i'm still wondering what it is about the propride installation that requires a 250 foot pound torque wrench. Only the bracket U-bolts on the Hensley need to be torqued - and only to 45 ft. lbs.

[Goingfor9]

So what happens when you back up? I have not installed mine yet so I dont know for my self just yet. My curosity is around the "Bump" you read about, which I can help prevent with setting my break controller, but when your backing into a spot does it Bump at all?


Backing up for me is better because I don't have to disconnect my sway bar before backing up. Just pull up and back up right up. Have not noticed a bump yet but haven't taken it out for a good long haul yet. Only took about 30 miles today

[unyalli]

Sorry but I have to pick this apart as a previous Propride 3P owner in Wyoming I'm coming from experience towing with insane winds and wind shear.

The Hensley and/or ProPride hitch will certainly dampen trailer sway
Wrong, it flat eliminates it.

but don't be lulled into thinking it controls all the potential sway.
Why not, it does.

In a strong gust of wind, your entire rig can still be pushed into the next lane
Correct just like a motorhome or fiver.

just as readily as it would have been with any other hitch.
False, False, False there is no comparison with how this hitch joins the two vehicles so they are like one. It's truly amazing.

You've still got the same size "sidewall sail" catching wind and still can get blown around under the right conditions.
Correct but it's as a single unit. This is the point. There is no sway.

-Jeff

[unyalli]

Never experienced a bump myself. But i'm still wondering what it is about the propride installation that requires a 250 foot pound torque wrench. Only the bracket U-bolts on the Hensley need to be torqued - and only to 45 ft. lbs.

See the two big bolts at the bottom in this picture?

http://www.keystoneforums.com/attachments/photobucket/img_117447_0_e0499f0ee1764da1745df849dc034afe.jpg

I suspect these are not being properly torqued.

[JRTJH]

Sorry but I have to pick this apart as a previous Propride 3P owner in Wyoming I'm coming from experience towing with insane winds and wind shear.


Wrong, it flat eliminates it.


Why not, it does.


Correct just like a motorhome or fiver.


False, False, False there is no comparison with how this hitch joins the two vehicles so they are like one. It's truly amazing.


Correct but it's as a single unit. This is the point. There is no sway.

-Jeff

I defer to your vast knowledge. I still, however, warn anyone with any kind of "super hitch" that they are still as vulnerable to being moved about the highway as anyone with a conventional hitch. Just be careful in how you "shelter yourself" in your newfound "invulnerability"........ Accidents still happen and hitches don't prevent them they just make it somewhat more comfortable to tow until it happens.

[Tinbender]

The Hensley and/or ProPride hitch will certainly dampen trailer sway and make for much more comfortable towing, but don't be lulled into thinking it controls all the potential sway. In a strong gust of wind, your entire rig can still be pushed into the next lane just as readily as it would have been with any other hitch. You've still got the same size "sidewall sail" catching wind and still can get blown around under the right conditions.

No sir, your incorrect. I can't speak of the Hensley but the Pro Pride ELIMINATES sway period! Unless you have pulled the same trailer with the same TV using a standard WD hitch then done it with the pro Pride through the same kind of conditions you cannot fully understand the difference that it makes.

Yes a strong gust of wind can push the rig sideways but the difference is that the TV/TT react as a single unit as would a motorhome there is NO sway between the TV and the TT, been there done that more than once now.
Tinbender

[JRTJH]

Put yourself in a "too light" tow vehicle pulling a "too long" travel trailer or a "just right" tow vehicle with a "just right" travel trailer using any hitch you want to use. Get into a crosswind on a two lane highway and if a gust pushes you over the yellow line into the path of an oncoming 18 wheeler, the propride hitch isn't going to do anything for the front of your vehicle.

Sway, no sway, acting as one unit, acting independently, it's really a matter of words. Just be careful thinking you're going to be able to tow with one hand on the wheel because of a hitch. Enough said, I'm not responding any further with regards to "not understanding how great the hitch makes a towing experience". Crosswinds push 18 wheelers around on the highway, you're simply not invincible to crosswinds because of a hitch.

[jtyphoid]

Tinbender and JRTJH,

I'd like to go on record as agreeing strongly with both of you. :-D

Having pulled our previous 7K trailer many thousands of miles with both a conventional WD hitch and a Hensley, I agree 100 percent that the Hensley and ProPride are not a substitute for a mismatched TV and trailer.

That said, it does improve controllability in both driver and environmentally induced situations. I have experienced a few, thankfully very few, situations where I believe that the Hensley helped me avoid trouble. For example, I'm a firm believer that emergency lane changes with the Hensley are much more controllable than with a regular hitch. Similarly, getting centered back up after getting pushed by a sudden gust of wind is noticeably easier.

I find it ironic that, in line with what JRTJH has stated, the biggest problem with the Hensley is that it works so well that I had to work to avoid becoming complacent and forgetting that I was dragging 7K of trailer behind me.

[Clicker]

Well that did not take you long, you just sent me a pm earlier tonight.

So just a thought.. Did you order the cover and the extension kit as well?


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Sorry it took so long to answer. Yes on the extension kit no on the cover.

[chartrand]

Yes I ordered the cover and extension kit. Had to purchase 2 more link things and did not need to the wire harness extension. The cover is nice but I'm not sure I have it on right.

[scuba0331]

I installed my propride last year! Awesome hitch! I made my own chain extensions and I did not need the extended wiring.
Buy the covers as it is money well spent on such a great hitch. I put the cover back on as soon as I unhitch. Don't want the little one to run into that beast!