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Old 01-18-2018, 08:30 AM   #1
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Does anyone here have any contacts with Keystone's engineering department?

What I'm trying to do is obtain a side profile and top view of my specific 5th wheel in a CAD format. Just an overall, non-detailed view. What I'm going to be doing soon is laying out and designing my future barn / shop / home and having these layouts will help with the design of the new place.

I did try calling Keystone, and that was a "no go".
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:11 AM   #2
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I don't know of anyone at Keystone who would be able to provide that information. I'd guess that it's a part of the overall "proprietary data" and considered not releasable to the public. Keystone keeps all of that kind of data very closely guarded.

Someone may have a friend of a friend kind of arrangement, but outside of that, I'd suggest you consider building your own set of measurements.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:04 AM   #3
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Level of effort to get a CAD drawing (even if possible) out of Keystone is probably 10 out of 10.

Level of effort to draw a square box to your trailers dimensions in CAD is 1 out of 10.

I've never seen a CAD drawing of a Keystone RV. Even spaceshuttle seems to non-CAD software... Or really basic CAD renderings.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:59 AM   #4
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Thinking beyond my initial post, even if you do happen upon a CAD drawing, typically people own an RV for 3-5 years and own a home for 30-40 years, so what you build today will be "superseded with different measurements" likely before you repaint the kitchen in your new home. As dcg9381 said, just draw a box with approximate measurements and add what you think reasonable for "future RV upsizing".
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Thinking beyond my initial post, even if you do happen upon a CAD drawing, typically people own an RV for 3-5 years and own a home for 30-40 years, so what you build today will be "superseded with different measurements" likely before you repaint the kitchen in your new home. As dcg9381 said, just draw a box with approximate measurements and add what you think reasonable for "future RV upsizing".
New home will be built as a garage / shop on the first floor with living quarters on the second. If I can design it to accommodate my current 5th wheel (40'), it'll accommodate anything I purchase in the future. If anything, what I end up buying in the future will be smaller than what I have now (no kids).

Also, I know I can draw and couple of rectangles and do what I need and complete the job. I just think it would be nice to have cad renderings of the 5th wheel displayed in the drawings. It's a nice to have, not a need to have.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:26 AM   #6
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I'd urge you to proceed with drawing your plans without the CAD drawings. If you wait for them (from Keystone) you'll likely still be waiting 2 or 3 years from now. Electrical/plumbing diagrams and aluminum sidewall plans are "non-existant" so expecting CAD drawings on shape/size are going to be like believing in a "unicorn".... You might know they exist, but finding someone who has seen one.......
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How about just adding dimensions to this?



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Thinking beyond my initial post, even if you do happen upon a CAD drawing, typically people own an RV for 3-5 years and own a home for 30-40 years, so what you build today will be "superseded with different measurements" likely before you repaint the kitchen in your new home. As dcg9381 said, just draw a box with approximate measurements and add what you think reasonable for "future RV upsizing".
That's kinda what I'm thinking also, done some CAD work myself but for what your trying to do, a measured outline drawn with the program is probably the best your going to do, that is unless you have a hand held 3D scanner you could walk around the RV with. Don't try to overthink the whole thing when a couple good measurements will do the trick.
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I'm building an RV storage building too, perhaps with a living area above the next bay.
The critical things to me were:
* Length of the RV, about 38'.
* Length of a friends RV (larger 5th wheel) + his truck - we wanted to be able to get that in there - 55'.
* Height of my RV in terms of clearance. Mine is <13'6", which means a 14' door and a building that has 16' eves...

It's cool to see a 2d model of stuff, like a couch when building a CAD drawing, but RVs are so easy to approximate with a square box.

A CAD drawing of a Keystone is a bit of a holy grail.. Kinda like the electrical or plumbing schematic.
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