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Old 05-20-2018, 10:02 AM   #1
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Notes on new Hideout

Just wanted to share some things I've found on the new trailer I purchased 3 weeks ago.


PDI issues -

Sealant missing on top front corners where the front trim meets the roof.
Sealant was falling off of the lower corner slide seals
All entry door latches were loose


Since I came home with it -
All of the frame to floor bolts along the outboard frame rails were loose to point where the lock washers were separating at the cut. Turned all of them at least two turns.


All of the bolts that hold the steps to the frame were loose.


All hand turned plumbing drains (sinks and p traps) were about a 1/2 turn from being hand tight. Must have been some weak hands.


Pulled inside cover for AC and found air leaks from poor taping and the excess rubber roofing was not attached to prevent interference with intake air. I also blocked the ducts beyond the forward and aft registers.


On first trip out the spare tire almost came off. Not sure I didn't drag it on something. The rack was bent in two places. The center support was bent into a V shape. The spare was riding with the bottom trailing. Big hammer and a four-way fixed it at the campsite. Dealer logo spare tire cover is probably on I-59 somewhere. Didn't want that cover anyhow.


Still checking stuff.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:13 PM   #2
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Good inspiration for me to be thorough when we pick up our new Cougar 26RBS tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:31 AM   #3
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Another thing is that 3 of the outside marker light lenses were hanging on by a thread. Dealer RTVed them at PDI. I later removed them and the RTV, then heated them with a heat gun while squeezing the tabs towards each other. Now they snap on like they are supposed to.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:54 AM   #4
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I started installing an EMS today and found a couple of workmanship issues at the distro panel.


One was a screw coming in from an adjoining compartment was tangled up in a DC wire bundle. It had scarred some of the insulation but none was broken. It was only a matter of time before it rubbed through.


And the main power cables had been butchered when the jacket was stripped to enter the panel. Exposed conductor in two places.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:57 PM   #5
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Glad to report that my new trailer performed flawlessly on a five day outing in 90* blazing sun. I have the Coleman-Mach 15 AC unit and it did well overall. The bunkhouse was a little warm but I think that can be fixed buy utilizing the extra duct work to install another register. It has the minimum number required for this unit so It wont hurt to go up.

I did find a stripped screw in the refrigerator door handle and wife found a bunch of staples sticking up in the carpet.

Can anyone tell I'm an old aircraft QA guy???
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Old 06-08-2018, 02:59 PM   #6
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"On first trip out the spare tire almost came off. Not sure I didn't drag it on something. The rack was bent in two places. The center support was bent into a V shape. The spare was riding with the bottom trailing. Big hammer and a four-way fixed it at the campsite. Dealer logo spare tire cover is probably on I-59 somewhere. Didn't want that cover anyhow."


I would bet you drug the spare. You have to watch VERY carefully for driveways/entries etc. that have much of an incline 1n/out or you can catch the spare.

I've hung mine twice and had to do exactly what you describe. After the 1st incident I knew to watch my entrance/exits much more closely, but, on my way back from FL last year I pulled into a station "thinking" the exit looked OK going back onto the street.....but, I could not see beyond the curb. Behind it the drive had a very big drop to the street and an instant rise. There was no way to back out of it or get crossways enough to minimize the dip so I had to bite the bullet. Drove the rest of the way to the next campsite with the spare sticking out backwards. I carry a small sledge with me all the time now for that particular repair.....if it ever happens again, which I hope it doesn't.

I replaced my cover with one from BestTop. Much higher quality than the OEM. It's just black and there are other fancier ones out there you might prefer.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:42 PM   #7
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I would bet you drug the spare. You have to watch VERY carefully for driveways/entries etc. that have much of an incline 1n/out or you can catch the spare.

Isn't there a rack that will raise the spare a few inches so it doesn't hang below the bumper?


Or maybe the spare is the sacrificial lamb...?
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:36 PM   #8
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There may be but I just put the onus on me to be more vigilant and watch as close as I possibly can. The spare sits pretty high and raising it would make it look funny on mine anyway.....to me. As far as the sacrificial lamb mine looks like it's the spare mount instead of the tire
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Old 06-08-2018, 05:02 PM   #9
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I was unpacking the camper and bothered to look at the bottom of the spare. There was a gravel stuck in the tread. It's never been on the axle.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:19 AM   #10
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I've been struggling with the lid for under bed storage area. On PDI I noticed I could see only one lift cylinder. I didn't know it was supposed to have two but I mentioned it to the tech doing the PDI with me. Yesterday I found the other lift cylinder attached inside the box. Attached it to the lid and now the lid works twice as well. Imagine that.
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Old 06-20-2018, 05:51 PM   #11
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Washed the whole roof with Fantastic and a car wash brush. Sealed the front seam that I made another post about and a couple of other suspect places.

Found a good sized hump where something is between the decking and the membrane. And another place where the membrane is separated from the decking. Going to take sized pictures and send to dealer.

Also found AC cover was not snapped together in 3 places.


New Carlisle HD LREs are installed but I haven't pulled it yet.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:15 PM   #12
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We've not paid much attention to the entertainment center on our two outings. Today I tried to play a DVD. No sound. I found the TV audio output and the head unit audio output were connected via RGA cable. I corrected it and it works for now.

I also found that the clamp that holds the wire bundle up in cabinet was directly behind the head unit and head unit was jammed in there so tight it popped out two inches when i took the screws out. All of the wires were jammed together. Moved clamp and dressed up the wires with zippies.

While I was there I added an audio in cable from the TV so i can hear the TV through the head unit.
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Old 08-06-2018, 07:01 PM   #13
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Furnace ducting

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Old 08-24-2018, 08:16 AM   #14
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TV reception

TV antenna cable connector is loose or defective somewhere behind an enclosed area. When I open and close the main cabin door the signal strength varies (TV goes out). I tightened up all of the connections I could get to through the entertainment center but that didn't help.

The antenna happens to be directly above one of the kitchen lamps so i removed it. I can see the antenna connector in the mounting tube but i cant get to it.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:24 AM   #15
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I'm parked at a campsite for a while and it came a driving rain. Both entry door windows leaked a small amount of water at the bottom of the window on the inside.

Kitchen window leaked heavily through the butyl rubber on the side of the frame. Topped the butyl with some Proseal to stop it.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:28 AM   #16
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Toilet water valve leaks at random. There was a screw missing so I installed a new screw of the correct size. That slowed it down but didn't stop it.
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Toilet water valve leaks at random. There was a screw missing so I installed a new screw of the correct size. That slowed it down but didn't stop it.


The valves are pretty easy to replace. I replaced mine once already (picked up new rig in Apr). The new valve has started leaking too. Since we turn off the water when we leave we don’t worry about it for now. My dealer has shipped me a new valve.
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The valves are pretty easy to replace. I replaced mine once already (picked up new rig in Apr). The new valve has started leaking too. Since we turn off the water when we leave we don’t worry about it for now. My dealer has shipped me a new valve.
Would these be Dometic 3xx series toilet valves? Great thread, by the way!
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Would these be Dometic 3xx series toilet valves? Great thread, by the way!
Yes it’s a 310.
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I have a new Hideout as well, will keep an eye out for some of these issues. I did immediately go around and tape all of the A/C vents since they were atrocious (worst one attached). I did not do the A/C unit itself or the furnace registers though, will go back and check them.
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