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Old 01-27-2018, 01:43 PM   #1
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I am looking at new tires and going with Maxxis but the pricing is strange. It appears my size has 2 Load Ranges, D&E. However the E range is less expensive than the D range. I would have thought it would be the other way. The tires on the trailer now are Load Range D.
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Old 01-27-2018, 01:58 PM   #2
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A lot of the pricing depends on how many tires are in the warehouse, age of the tires (manufacture date) surplus of a specific size and possibly a sale or lower price to the distributor from Maxxis. Unless you're "set on Maxxis" you can probably save about $100 on a set of 4 Carlisle tires at WalMart. They are exceptionally well priced and have been for about 6 months. Typically 225 75R15 LRE are $67 with free shipping to the store. Some WalMart service centers install tires purchased from WalMart for free, others charge a fee. Ask about your specific service center. As for performance and reliability, the Carlisle Radial Trail HD seems to be performing comparably to Maxxis 8808's.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:29 PM   #3
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Seconded on the Carlisles. Very well built tire for $67 each at Wal-Mart. Unless you just really WANT to drop an extra $100, I reccomend them. I have had mine 6 months. I just checked the pressure last week.... and they have lost 1 psi in 6 months. For the combo of price/quality, they are hard to top.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:11 AM   #4
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You guys do what you want but I wouldn't buy my tires from Walmart as they could be seconds...maybe not, but they could be in my opinion. I don't and never will look at Walmart as a reputable tire supplier unless I'm in an emergency situation and just have to have that tire. That's just my opinion. Four of them out the door at Discount tire, $471, sorry but I'd pay that all day long before buying them at wally world, plus they have a $50 rebate when buying 4 tires.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:41 AM   #5
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I just looked at Walmart.com for size mentioned above, 8 ply Carlisle is $114, 6 ply Carlisle is $61. So you need to make sure your comparing apples to apples.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:27 AM   #6
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Our Walmart is one of the smallest in the country so there is no auto tire section. The auto section consists of about 3 isles with the normal stuff like oil, filters, electrical parts, seat covers, batteries, etc. so I have to order on line. Even for Maxxis there is no dealer here.

Online I can get the Maxxis 10 ply Load Range E for 123.71 ea with free shipping which makes it very competitive to the Carlisle
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:33 AM   #7
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Barry, this is the best I can do for you. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carlisle-...-E-10/55012166
Have them shipped to your house.....
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:48 AM   #8
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Thank you. nice price!
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:45 AM   #9
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I just looked at Walmart.com for size mentioned above, 8 ply Carlisle is $114, 6 ply Carlisle is $61. So you need to make sure your comparing apples to apples.


Not sure what you looked at, but Walmart has the HD tire in the size referenced above in an E/10 size for $67.

The $114 8 ply tire is a different tire altogether.

I ordered 5 ST235/80R16 E/10 for our 5r middle of last year, prior to a big trip, and had my local tire shop install them. When they saw the invoice attached to one of the tires, they were pissed, because the wholesaler who sold to Walmart is the SAME wholesaler the tire shop used and he sold to Walmart for less than the tire shop, but the tire shop does thousands of dollars of business with him monthly.

In the end, even with paying the tire shop $25 per tire for mounting etc., I still saved about $200 over the original quote the tire shop gave me.

I bought them in June 2017 and the date code showed they were made in Dec 2016. The tires were not seconds in any way. I have no doubt, had I used the tire shop, the tires they received would have been from the same stack as the tire I ordered at Walmart.


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Not sure what you looked at, but Walmart has the HD tire in the size referenced above in an E/10 size for $67.

The $114 8 ply tire is a different tire altogether.

I ordered 5 ST235/80R16 E/10 for our 5r middle of last year, prior to a big trip, and had my local tire shop install them. When they saw the invoice attached to one of the tires, they were pissed, because the wholesaler who sold to Walmart is the SAME wholesaler the tire shop used and he sold to Walmart for less than the tire shop, but the tire shop does thousands of dollars of business with him monthly.

In the end, even with paying the tire shop $25 per tire for mounting etc., I still saved about $200 over the original quote the tire shop gave me.

I bought them in June 2017 and the date code showed they were made in Dec 2016. The tires were not seconds in any way. I have no doubt, had I used the tire shop, the tires they received would have been from the same stack as the tire I ordered at Walmart.


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Maybe it is just me, but no way would I put/trust $67 tires on my 5er!
I prefer to put the same tires on my 5er, as my TV. Our 5er has a GVWR of 12,360# I removed the OEM LT235/85-16E, and replaced with LT235/85-16E Yokohama YK-HTX. Yes they run close to $200 a tire, but fully trust them to their 3,042# capacity as fast as I could pull this trailer, 80mph+, not that I do that.
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Maybe it is just me, but no way would I put/trust $67 tires on my 5er!

I prefer to put the same tires on my 5er, as my TV. Our 5er has a GVWR of 12,360# I removed the OEM LT235/85-16E, and replaced with LT235/85-16E Yokohama YK-HTX. Yes they run close to $200 a tire, but fully trust them to their 3,042# capacity as fast as I could pull this trailer, 80mph+, not that I do that.

FWIW, the exact same $67 tire ordered through Walmart is about $100 at various online venders and $120 at discount tires. Also, I’m sure you’re aware, the ST designation is intended specifically as a trailer tire vs. the LT, which can be used on a trailer, isn’t intended as such. My tires are rated at #3520 single and #3080 doubled. So I have every confidence in the tires and the $$ savings can be used for fun stuff.


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Maybe it is just me, but no way would I put/trust $67 tires on my 5er!
I prefer to put the same tires on my 5er, as my TV. Our 5er has a GVWR of 12,360# I removed the OEM LT235/85-16E, and replaced with LT235/85-16E Yokohama YK-HTX. Yes they run close to $200 a tire, but fully trust them to their 3,042# capacity as fast as I could pull this trailer, 80mph+, not that I do that.
Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the difference in buying Carlisle Radial Trail HD tires (PN 6H04621) for $67 each at WalMart or buying the same tire (PN 6H04621) from Allied Tire Company for $149. It's the same tire from the same manufacturer processed through the same warehouse and delivered by the same truck to a different store. Other than the door you walk through to get inside, it's the same tire purchase. I don't know about anyone else, but if I find something on sale for less than half the price, I consider it a good buy (if I need it) and keep my extra money for a "rainy day". I'm generally not in the habit of donating my funds to anyone so my wallet is lighter and theirs is heavier.

So, I fail to see where your concern about using $67 tires has any bearing on buying tires. Now as for using LT tires, if you really think they are better, then by all means, install them annually if it makes you happy, but for everyone who has posted on the forum, buying Carlisle Radial Trail HD tires has not been a mistake.
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Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the difference in buying Carlisle Radial Trail HD tires (PN 6H04621) for $67 each at WalMart or buying the same tire (PN 6H04621) from Allied Tire Company for $149. It's the same tire from the same manufacturer processed through the same warehouse and delivered by the same truck to a different store. Other than the door you walk through to get inside, it's the same tire purchase. I don't know about anyone else, but if I find something on sale for less than half the price, I consider it a good buy (if I need it) and keep my extra money for a "rainy day". I'm generally not in the habit of donating my funds to anyone so my wallet is lighter and theirs is heavier.

So, I fail to see where your concern about using $67 tires has any bearing on buying tires. Now as for using LT tires, if you really think they are better, then by all means, install them annually if it makes you happy, but for everyone who has posted on the forum, buying Carlisle Radial Trail HD tires has not been a mistake.
FYI, The Tacoma LT 235/85-16E that came off our 5er, were 12 year old. They were still in great shape, just this last year were they showing any age cracking. The last two years before retirement, my schedule sucked so most trips were 100 to 200 miles, and I very seldom worried about the tires.

I have stated before that semis run the same tire carcass, be they steer, driver, or trailer (rib) tread. Trucking company's will cap steer to drivers, and drivers to trailer tread. Many time move drivers to trailer, when they don't have tread depth for traction, but enough to still be legal.
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rhagfo,

FWIW, I think you're confusing (or maybe mixing) apples and oranges. Your fifth wheel is about 12,500 pounds with 16" tires. The OP's trailer is a 25'9" travel trailer with 15" wheels and a GVW of 7200. First of all, he can't buy (nobody manufacturers) a quality 15" LT tire, what is available are P series "LT wannabees" and he certainly doesn't need to upgrade to 16" wheels to carry the weight that you typically see on your fifth wheel.

So, while it might be "great to upgrade", spending that kind of money on a 7000 pound travel trailer just doesn't make common sense any more than it makes economic sense.... he's much better off buying the Carlisle ST's or the Maxxis ST's than he would be trying to follow in your footsteps with is trailer which is 5,000 pounds lighter than yours.
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"FYI, The Tacoma LT 235/85-16E that came off our 5er, were 12 year old" Believe me when I say this is just wrong on SO many levels. And I can assure you my opinion will be backed by more than 90% of in-the-know RV'ers with many years of experience. To stage a proper argument (discussion) one shouldn't start out with that statement.
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Maybe I should take my tires back. I had Discount Tire match the WalMart price for 235 80 16 LR E Carlisle HD. I bought all of them I could...five.
But just to even things out, I bought 5 Carlisle HD for the boat trailer, from WalMart.
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"FYI, The Tacoma LT 235/85-16E that came off our 5er, were 12 year old" Believe me when I say this is just wrong on SO many levels. And I can assure you my opinion will be back by more than 90% of in-the-know RV'ers with many years of experience. To stage a proper argument (discussion) one shouldn't start out with that statement.

^^^x2. I wouldn't run a 12 year old tire of any kind on anything. It's, uh, well, just not "right". I will say I did run an old tire once on a trailer; bought a military surplus water buffalo trailer, built like a tank. Tires were circa 1920 and about 80 ply looked like (being facetious but they were OLD). Weather cracked and riding on steel, wire spoked original wheels. Pretty cool, pretty old and almost made it the 100 miles back home. It was quite a site watching them try to get those old tires off those old wheels; they had literally grown to them. But I digress...running a 12 year old tire on a larger 5th wheel is just dangerous.
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FWIW, I think you're confusing (or maybe mixing) apples and oranges. Your fifth wheel is about 12,500 pounds with 16" tires. The OP's trailer is a 25'9" travel trailer with 15" wheels and a GVW of 7200. First of all, he can't buy (nobody manufacturers) a quality 15" LT tire, what is available are P series "LT wannabees" and he certainly doesn't need to upgrade to 16" wheels to carry the weight that you typically see on your fifth wheel.

So, while it might be "great to upgrade", spending that kind of money on a 7000 pound travel trailer just doesn't make common sense any more than it makes economic sense.... he's much better off buying the Carlisle ST's or the Maxxis ST's than he would be trying to follow in your footsteps with is trailer which is 5,000 pounds lighter than yours.
It was a response to Bolo4u, with a 5er of about the same size, and his tire choice.

As to having 12 year old tires, I kept a close eye on them, but even at that the road to our favorite campgrounds had a couple rough RR crossings, and several places where pavement had dropped up to a couple inches, all crossed at highway speed. The new Yokohama’s will likely go at least six years.
The fact that LT tires need to meet higher certification standards means I sleep
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It was a response to Bolo4u, with a 5er of about the same size, and his tire choice.

As to having 12 year old tires, I kept a close eye on them, but even at that the road to our favorite campgrounds had a couple rough RR crossings, and several places where pavement had dropped up to a couple inches, all crossed at highway speed. The new Yokohama’s will likely go at least six years.
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I wish you the best trying to extend your trailer tire's lives...no matter what they are. I can't imagine keeping tires for even 6 years on a heavy RV. I don't keep them that long on a truck (or close) and I buy premium tires. To me, and I'm sorry, that's penny pinching at the expense of the family. ST, LT, XLT etc. 6 years is just not something I would ever consider unless I was unable to replace them. Encouraging, or promoting that practice is a bad thing to me for folks new to towing -
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It was a response to Bolo4u, with a 5er of about the same size, and his tire choice.



As to having 12 year old tires, I kept a close eye on them, but even at that the road to our favorite campgrounds had a couple rough RR crossings, and several places where pavement had dropped up to a couple inches, all crossed at highway speed. The new Yokohama’s will likely go at least six years.

The fact that LT tires need to meet higher certification standards means I sleep

Better at night.

If I had bought the exact same tire at a “regular tire shop” for, say..., $145, is that any different?

Would you never buy the same $200 tire you bought if it were on sale?



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