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Old 01-07-2019, 02:53 PM   #1
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F-350 DRW favor to ask...

I’m wondering if I could ask a favor of any of you with a newer (2017, 2018, 2019?) F-350 Lariat DRW? Could you either post a photo of the yellow sticker for your truck or post what your payload is? We are tossing around the idea of trading in our SRW Lariat for a DRW, but I would like to know that the payload is going to be enough higher to make it worth it. That’s also why I’m asking specifically for Lariat numbers, that what we have and would get. And I suppose, also let me know if it’s a long bed or short bed since that will make a difference and we will have a long bed. We looked just a little this weekend when we were in Denver, but didn’t find any that I could get numbers from (and there is no way I’m getting a King Ranch or Platinum!)

I’m not positive I’m ready to trade our truck in, but hubby is looking to the future and getting an Alpine after kids graduate. I’m just choking on the cost of a new truck.....

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Old 01-07-2019, 05:26 PM   #2
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It's been a few hours since this was posted, and nothing so far. I know you are asking about 2017 and up, but I'll go ahead and give you the payload on mine. It's a 2016 F350 CrewCab Dually, 6.7 diesel, 4x4, 8 foot bed, and a King Ranch. Payload is 5270 lb, as per the yellow/white sticker on the driver's door post.

What this means to you.....the 2017 and up trucks, as I understand it, have a bit more payload capacity for a similar truck. Mine is also a King Ranch vs. a Lariat, which means that the Lariat probably has a little more payload than the KR, as there is less equipment on the Lariat. Hope this helps a bit and that someone or two posts up the payload of their 2017 and up Lariat for you. Not that it really matters as far as payload, but mine has the 3.73 rear end and a spray in factory bedliner with the factory fifth wheel and gooseneck package.....and still 5270 lbs of payload.
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Old 01-07-2019, 06:32 PM   #3
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I have a 2018 LB Lariat F350 6.7 SRW 3.55 axle. It pulls my 3660FL Alpine as if it is not even there. Braking down hill is no problem either as the exhaust brake does a fantastic job . Had a 2016 Platinum i traded in for this one. It pulled the Alpine as well however my new 2018 Lariat seems to have more technology and has more torque and horse power than my 2016.
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Old 01-07-2019, 06:52 PM   #4
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Thank you, xrated! That really does help. Basically, it sounds like our trucks are very comparable (including the spray in bed liner), except for the Lariat/ KR and dually difference. Our payload on the SRW is 3290 lbs on our 2016 in my signature. And if you have 1980 lbs more payload than ours, sounds great!

Since we would be ordering a new truck, we won’t know the payload until we would get it, and that’s too late for me if that was the whole reason to get a new truck. Hence the question for everyone. So thank you for your answer. I don’t know if I should be happy that it’s that much more, or cringing because that may mean a new truck sooner than I really wanted, and I really like the one we have.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:17 PM   #5
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My bad.....Thanks, Russ! I'll do better.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:31 PM   #6
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Erod, can’t you read the payload for her off the sticker of your truck?
They have a F350 SRW, looking for payload on a F350 Lariat DRW . That said most like in that trim level will be north of 5,000#.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:39 PM   #7
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Lynette,

I'm not trying to "steal your salesman's thunder" but if you're looking seriously at a F350 DRW lariat, you might consider the F450 DRW lariat. NOT for the increased payload, heaven knows the 350 should have more than enough, but rather to get the wide front axle and all the benefits it brings. Cost difference isn't as much as you might think and that front axle is really a significant improvement over the F350.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:49 AM   #8
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Lynette,

I'm not trying to "steal your salesman's thunder" but if you're looking seriously at a F350 DRW lariat, you might consider the F450 DRW lariat. NOT for the increased payload, heaven knows the 350 should have more than enough, but rather to get the wide front axle and all the benefits it brings. Cost difference isn't as much as you might think and that front axle is really a significant improvement over the F350.
The F450 will have a smaller payload on paper due to both having a 14,000# GVWR, and the heaver construction on the F450.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:54 AM   #9
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Also, all other things being equal, won't moving from SRW to DRW decrease payload?


It would increase the Rear GAWR... and probably other numbers, as well as increasing the towing stability.


Does the OP really need a higher payload? Don't these trucks have "more than enough" no matter how you configure them?
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:00 AM   #10
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Also, all other things being equal, won't moving from SRW to DRW decrease payload?


It would increase the Rear GAWR... and probably other numbers, as well as increasing the towing stability.


Does the OP really need a higher payload? Don't these trucks have "more than enough" no matter how you configure them?
GVW for Ford F350 SRW 11,500 lbs
GVW for Ford F350 DRW 14,000 lbs.

The 2500 pound payload increase (if all things are equal= same weight components, etc) which is not the case.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:42 AM   #11
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Also, all other things being equal, won't moving from SRW to DRW decrease payload?


It would increase the Rear GAWR... and probably other numbers, as well as increasing the towing stability.


Does the OP really need a higher payload? Don't these trucks have "more than enough" no matter how you configure them?
Well largest GVWR SRW I know of is 12,300# on Ram, my 2016 has a 14,000# GVWR and a 5,411# payload in Laramie trim.
So extra Stability and it has much larger payload.
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Also keep in mind that some states classify the F450 as a commercial truck as do some insurance companies. Not to mention the price of 19 inch tires being over $300.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:22 AM   #13
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John,

The thought has “gone thru our minds about a 450 instead of a 350” but I haven’t looked into how MN and our insurance classifies them. Or MT for that matter since we will be moving back when kids are out of high school soon. I really do not want to get into paying more for insurance if classified commercial (already been there with our 2009 truck, but that was owned by company) and definitely don’t want the hassle of different license in this stinkin’ state (if it would be necessary). But, I will probably check just to make sure. I do know hubby was disappointed because GVWR was the same for a 450 as a 350.

And a question - does a DRW 350 turn much wider than a SRW 350, both with a long bed? Or is it just that the wider front end of the 450 would decrease the turning radius over both of the 350’s? Because, I’ve dealt with the turning radius of a long bed SRW 350 since 2009. Not necessarily my favorite, but it is what it is.

Redlags- thank you very much for posting your payload!
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John,



The thought has “gone thru our minds about a 450 instead of a 350” but I haven’t looked into how MN and our insurance classifies them. Or MT for that matter since we will be moving back when kids are out of high school soon. I really do not want to get into paying more for insurance if classified commercial (already been there with our 2009 truck, but that was owned by company) and definitely don’t want the hassle of different license in this stinkin’ state (if it would be necessary). But, I will probably check just to make sure. I do know hubby was disappointed because GVWR was the same for a 450 as a 350.



And a question - does a DRW 350 turn much wider than a SRW 350, both with a long bed? Or is it just that the wider front end of the 450 would decrease the turning radius over both of the 350’s? Because, I’ve dealt with the turning radius of a long bed SRW 350 since 2009. Not necessarily my favorite, but it is what it is.



Redlags- thank you very much for posting your payload!
F350 dually is only offered with an 8 foot bed so unless your F350 SRW is the same then the dually will have a bigger turning radius. My '15 dually has the wide front end and the difference is about 8" in radius between the wide and standard front end.

I think they stopped offering the F350 with the wide front end in '16 or '17 and changed the frame of the F450 at the same time..

As a note.. my '15 XLT has a 6062 lb.. payload.
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F350 dually is only offered with an 8 foot bed so unless your F350 SRW is the same then the dually will have a bigger turning radius. My '15 dually has the wide front end and the difference is about 8" in radius between the wide and standard front end.

I think they stopped offering the F350 with the wide front end in '16 or '17 and changed the frame of the F450 at the same time..

As a note.. my '15 XLT has a 6062 lb.. payload.
So you loose 622# of payload between moderately equipped and higher trim levels. It is a bit of a trade off.
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So you loose 622# of payload between moderately equipped and higher trim levels. It is a bit of a trade off.
You do lose some payload with higher trim levels, but remember the information given is for a 2017 (aluminum body) vs a 2015 (steel body). They are two entirely different trucks (except for name). The frames were reworked, steel body "upgraded/downgraded" (depending on how you look at it) and the advertising eludes to about 300 pounds of added payload from those changes, so it's not an apples to apples 622 pounds.....
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F350 dually is only offered with an 8 foot bed so unless your F350 SRW is the same then the dually will have a bigger turning radius. My '15 dually has the wide front end and the difference is about 8" in radius between the wide and standard front end.

I think they stopped offering the F350 with the wide front end in '16 or '17 and changed the frame of the F450 at the same time..

As a note.. my '15 XLT has a 6062 lb.. payload.
OK. Next question - 8 inches of radius difference or 8 feet? Javi says 8" here, but on another thread about F-350 configuration someone said 8 feet of turning radius difference between wide stance and "normal" front end. And I know how easy it is to pick the wrong hash mark on typing on the computer! So, which is it? The 8" would make no difference to me, but 8' is a significant difference and may consider looking at. And, sorry to ask again, but between a 350 long bed SRW and a 350 long bed DRW there would be no difference in turning radius, correct? The 2 extra tires don't change the pivot point that much, do they?
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Curb to curb diameter about 58 feet vs. 50 1/2 feet. So 8 feet diameter...
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We drove a couple of F-450's before deciding to order our own and it is easy to tell the difference when comparing the turning radius. Yes, Javi is correct in that 8' does make quite a difference when parking or making a U-turn. We have had SRW and DRW trucks over the years, but this will be our first F-450. Neither Geico nor the state of Tennessee gave a rat's patoot when questioned about our choice. Both just wanted their share of our money in a timely fashion.
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