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Old 07-08-2018, 02:04 PM   #11
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Excellent advise. With the remote display you can see voltage and amp draw on each leg.
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:16 PM   #12
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It is nice just to be able to push the button on the display on our 50 amp EMS, see the voltage and the amps the RV is drawing.


What we were taking for granted before, is now being proactive, without doing anything!
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:24 PM   #13
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Gegrad, We were at site #104 at Falls Lake Recreation Park / Holly Point. Don't get me wrong; we LOVE the park. It's just the sites that are on that particular loop (all 30A service only) that suffer; the worst happens to be #104.... (We've camped there several times before.)

They have an upgrade coming this fall just funded by a $1M+ grant to upgrade the loop to 50A AND update/renovate the bath houses. If you have any plans to visit, just avoid that loop for the rest of this season.
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:44 PM   #14
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FWIW the 30A shore cord on my previous fiver was still in perfect shape when I sold the trailer after 13 1/2 yrs of ownership and plenty of trips. Current fiver looks great.
I've been a 'follower' of yours for a while. (Even made a purchase because of your input.)

Would you expand on your hookup? Willing to tell us your secrets?
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:50 PM   #15
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I'm not as experienced of a camper as a lot of you guys/gals on here, but I've been an Electrician since 1980 (that officially makes me an "old fart"). From my limited experience at campgrounds, many of the problems lie with the campground itself in the fact that their electrical systems have not been maintained as well as they should and that they have not updated their systems for higher power consumptions that they are experiencing vs. when they were built, sometimes many years ago. As I understand it, the 30A systems were pretty much the norm years ago. Now, many of the campers/trailers/coaches/etc are 50A systems and there is obviously a lot more power being used/consumed at the campgrounds. It is analogous to the days when all the houses had either a 60A service.....or if you were very modern, a 100A service. Now days, 200A services are the norm and 225 and higher are quite common. The utility companies have obviously had to upgrade their equipment....transformer sub stations, switchyards, distribution lines, and more power generation plants. Unfortunately, not all of the campgrounds have kept up with the "power demand" that the modern camper want/need to keep their campers happy. And of course, there are many that have, and they are the ones that we all want.

THIS is a problem so many run into. Just because there's a plug there doesn't mean a lot. It could be anything anymore. Some of the biggest problems are in government ran campgrounds and older RV parks. The newer ones I've gone to all have up to date peds, power etc. The older ones are hit and miss. Xrated made the point; so many of these locations had a power grid installed in their park "back when". As time progressed they may/may not have added lots of 50A plugs. If they did, and didn't upgrade the incoming power you will have issues. The park we stay in for the winter just had to upgrade ALL of the transformers and feeds into the park a couple of years ago due to the increase power draw from the campers.

As far as the plug in tester; it's fine if you want to run around the trailer plugging it into receptacles to check the voltage...even if it's 50A. It will tell you the voltage at that point no matter which leg it's on. Problem is...which leg is it??? That's another great point of the sophisticated EMS systems. It does all that for you real time...every minute. You don't need to check for problems; wait for them; worry about them;....it just shuts it down and tells you what the problem is. "Don't leave home without it"
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:59 PM   #16
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Gegrad, We were at site #104 at Falls Lake Recreation Park / Holly Point. Don't get me wrong; we LOVE the park. It's just the sites that are on that particular loop (all 30A service only) that suffer; the worst happens to be #104.... (We've camped there several times before.)

They have an upgrade coming this fall just funded by a $1M+ grant to upgrade the loop to 50A AND update/renovate the bath houses. If you have any plans to visit, just avoid that loop for the rest of this season.
Thanks you sir, I will keep that in mind. The corp park at Kerr Lake (Satterwhite point, specifically) seems to have good power supply, so that could be another lake to check out if you want. We have stayed at several sites in that park and never had a problem.
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:28 PM   #17
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I've been a 'follower' of yours for a while. (Even made a purchase because of your input.)



Would you expand on your hookup? Willing to tell us your secrets?

Appreciate the compliment. No secrets really, I look at the pedestal before I plug in. If I see cracks or burn marks I wont stay in that space. I leave my fridge on LP until I am set up and look at my EMS readout.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:59 AM   #18
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Love my Progressive EMS and all that it does. Saved our bacon 3 times already - 2 from voltage going above 132 VAC (too high a voltage can damage electronics).
I use RV Park Reviews when looking for a campground. Many times reviewers will complain about low voltage problems at an RV park they've used.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:35 AM   #19
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Most of the 30A campground outlets have bad/loose contacts, causing arcing, carbon buildup and voltage drop. The rig draws more current, more heat, burned plugs and inlets.
Burned terminals on your cord plugs or the trailer, usually caused by plugging into a live outlet or just from over use.
The 50A outlets get much less use and are the most desirable. Use a pigtail and plug your 30A into a 50A outlet. Use a pigtail, not one of the adapters that look like a hockey puck. Those WILL burn up.
I added a second 30A service to my Outback and built a splitter so I can plug into the 50A side. I also added an additional 20A inlet to run space heaters in the winter without tripping breakers.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:10 AM   #20
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Wow, what 01Soundman sounds exactly our problem now. On a military base campground. Wish we can pack up and go but hubby is out. That said I will add what happen also being on an old 30 amp, sharing with 5 other RVs.

Out one day and my Progressive Surge Protector was blinking (like the one recommended). Over heat it read. Well i started things back up but the ac in living room is not running full force. Hard to keep 5er cool. With that said should I buy a new surge protector? I know it did its job but is it like once it stops a problem do you need to buy a new one? And also a new dogbone(?)?
Cant wait to hubby comes home and find a better site.
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