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11-01-2017, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: West Central IN
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New Passport Elite 19RB and Questions
Just pulled it home this afternoon. Thanks to some on this forum the WD hitch was awfully, awfully close to being set up perfect and was fine for the ride home. If it wasn't raining and spitting snow would have some pictures.
Our first RV of any kind. Stocked up on lots of goodies, but have a question about one possibility. What is the general consensus of the experienced about a surge protector for the 'campground power' inlet. I understand it would be greatly dependent on specific locations, but is this something people see problems with on any kind of regular basis?
We won't have lots of electronics to worry about on the inside. If needed, it would be just to protect the RV electrics.
Opinions and experiences appreciated. Thanks.
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11-01-2017, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Solomons
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Congrats on your new rig. I use an in line surge protector that has saved my bacon at least twice. It has alerted me when there were issues with the CG post.
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11-01-2017, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Texas
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I bought a Progressive Industries EMS, from Amazon.
It offers surge protection as well as line monitoring for various faults and comes with a lifetime warranty.
Installation was pretty simple.
They also make a portable unit, that attaches between the pedestal and your camper, but I like having the monitor inside and not having to secure the portable against thievery.
-Brian
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11-01-2017, 04:35 PM
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Well, maybe a little more useful than I first thought.
Thanks
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11-01-2017, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Pennsville
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Congrats on the new Passport. Best of luck to you.
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11-01-2017, 06:20 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
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I have a hard wired EMS. Anymore I wouldn’t camp without one- hardwired or portable, your choice.
BTW, congrats on your new purchase.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
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11-02-2017, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Commerce Twp, Mi
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I got a portable and have had zero problems with it.
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11-02-2017, 02:52 AM
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Wxman, welcome to the forum. You are just about to find out that the money you paid for a membership here is about to pay off. 50 Amp surge protector on sale right now at CW. http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...yABEgInzfD_BwE Just what you need, believe me. And no, it doesn't depend on what kind of RV park you choose. ALL parks are subject to power surges.
A surge protector is the very first item one should buy for their RV.
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11-02-2017, 04:29 AM
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Senior Member
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Got one on the way . Thanks for the inputs and welcomes. Now we are just 'sorry' it is late in the season here. Anxious to get it out on a couple short trips to shake things down. Also finishing up the carport shelter we will be storing it in. Lots going on!
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11-02-2017, 08:04 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Souris
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I use an inline dogbone surge protector and put a garbage bag over the post when its plugged in ......congrats on your rig I pick my 19RB up tomorrow!
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11-03-2017, 09:38 AM
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I use a portable. With the portable, you can check the wiring before plugging in the TT.
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11-03-2017, 10:01 AM
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Site Team
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Location: W. Texas
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Just to confirm your choice on buying the protector. Yes, it is a required component IMO. Ours has saved us multiple times. You didn't say what you got but don't scrimp and get the one that has the readout for line faults, voltage, amperage etc. Worth every penny. Mine is the portable (Surge Guard) and I've had zero problems with it and no issues with theft or tampering. I did buy the surge guard housing/security protector to cover the connection for the EMS to power cable. I covers it and is secured with a padlock.
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11-03-2017, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: West Central IN
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I ordered an EMS hardwired with the remote display. Pros and cons both ways I know, but thought this install would look pretty neat.
Thanks
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11-03-2017, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfifield01
I use a portable. With the portable, you can check the wiring before plugging in the TT.
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Yep, We bought this one that analyzes the power before you plug your trailer in. It checks for low/high voltage, etc. It will light a set of two lights if the power is good to go:
https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-I...otector+30+amp
It has been pretty nice so far. We paid a few dollars less back in July, so they can vary in price. The cover has been nice for connecting in the rain.
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01-18-2018, 08:53 AM
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Member
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Location: Carthage
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I have the 19rb also and really like it . I installed the Progressive Industries EMS 30 amp hardwired surge protector soon after purchase. this is something I recommend you should do because it has saved me a few times already. It is very easy to install just finding a place for it was the hardest part. My next modification will be to install a bedlift kit as soon as the weather permits. Would like to hear from you about your camper likes and dislikes
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01-18-2018, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SRD
I have the 19rb also and really like it . I installed the Progressive Industries EMS 30 amp hardwired surge protector soon after purchase. this is something I recommend you should do because it has saved me a few times already. It is very easy to install just finding a place for it was the hardest part. My next modification will be to install a bedlift kit as soon as the weather permits. Would like to hear from you about your camper likes and dislikes
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sounds like a nice upgrade I will check into it thanks, we did the bed lift kit just bought the gas struts from princess auto in Canada a store much like jc whitney or harbour freight we bought the 89lb ones and have a very heavy 12" memory foam mattress and they work well to assist the lifting I followed the hatchlift instructions online with a few mods. I would also like to put a power socket to attach the main power cable to I'm not crazy about shoving all back inside that storage hole each time would rather just disconnect it and store coiled up will see if that do-able in the future.
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01-18-2018, 01:16 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Carthage
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Passport Elite 19rb modifications
Regarding the gas shocks you used with the bed lift do they work with the bed fully dressed. I have the stock mattress with a memory foam topper and the people at Hatchlift told me from my description that I should get the kit with the 150lb shocks. I have thought all along that might be to hard to close the bed and keep it down. What is your idea on that? Also I am going to do the shore power conversion inlet,I don't like dragging the cord out either
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01-18-2018, 05:08 PM
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Location: Northeast Florida/Southeast Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SRD
Regarding the gas shocks you used with the bed lift do they work with the bed fully dressed. I have the stock mattress with a memory foam topper and the people at Hatchlift told me from my description that I should get the kit with the 150lb shocks. I have thought all along that might be to hard to close the bed and keep it down. What is your idea on that? Also I am going to do the shore power conversion inlet,I don't like dragging the cord out either
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We have the Hatchlift shocks also. They recommended extra short ones (not sure of the force rating, Hatchlift BLK-XSM Extra Small). I suspect your under bed storage is similar to ours (we are a 19FBPR) and initially the bed would not stay down (using the factory mattress). I installed some gate latches (see bottom photo in entry 1 on this post) to hold the bed down. We've been using the shocks now for about 9 months, and the bed will stay down on its own, but we still latch it - just in case, and especially during travel.
Be aware, when you install them you may need to add additional bracing. The sides of the framed enclosure bowed out when I tried to close the bed storage hatch. The bracings are the white strips under the pivot point for the shock in the picture on the identified post.
I also installed the Progressive Industries hardwired electrical management system (EMS-HW30C) and it has saved my butt a few times, also. Well worth the investment, and reasonably easy to install.
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01-18-2018, 07:31 PM
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Location: Western NY
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OK, I don't want to tell anyone what to do. For the last 2 years we have road tripped all over for in excess of 12k miles camping everywhere. Weeks and weeks at a time usually staying a couple of nights in any one place.
As a former master electrician who got sick of working for a living and went back to college to get a EE I don't use a surge anything. The electric control box has breakers.
As to a surge protector saving your butt, how do you know? Because your surge protector said so?
Have you ever put a recorder on the input to your house? You think you are getting 115 volts he laughs.
If it makes you happy go for it.
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Rob
Bereft of TT and looking.
2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71 6.2L
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01-18-2018, 07:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Western NY
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As to suggestions:
Get a spare 25' 30 amp power cable. That has saved my butt.
How much water hose have you got? I have a 25' and a 50'. Sometimes I've needed both.
Tool kit? Include a square driver, stuff is always coming apart.
Extra sewer hose?
Duct tape? Gorilla double side tape is perfect for hanging hooks TP holders and such.
Fold up laundry basket is a handy item.
Small tin of axle grease to keep the ball lubed.
Have a fun time.
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Rob
Bereft of TT and looking.
2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71 6.2L
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