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02-25-2018, 12:31 PM
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Location: Taylors, SC
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Originally Posted by rhagfo
The LT 235/85-16E were an optional tire size on this unit the stock OEM size was an ST 225/75-15.
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Optional tire sizes offered by vehicle manufacturers disappear once the certification label is installed and verified. When you signed the papers for the trailer the tire size on the certification label became the official size for that trailer. Meaning it's the minimal accepted size and is the benchmark for all subsequent replacements.
The whole tire industry uses vehicle certification labels to verify minimal acceptable replacement tire/wheel sizes. You can verify that by reading any tire manufacturer's/retailer's SOP manual.
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02-25-2018, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Tupelo
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I just replace my Trailer Kings last week. I looked hard at the Carlisle, but opted out for couple of reasons. Walmart had an excellent price at $67. However, They got in 11 tires over the couple of weeks I tried to deal with them. The newest manufacture date for any of them was a week over a year old. They also repeated made excuses ranging from they couldn't install them, to they really didn't want to install them. The manager was past non-cooperative. Also, say what you want Carlisles are still made in China.
I opted for the Goodyear Endurance. The base price of the tire was about $55 more per tire. My experience with Goodyear was the opposite of Walmart. They were professional and helpful. Without asking I noticed them under my truck and Rv checking my tire pressure. The manager also suggested that even though the sticker in my truck recommended 70 Psi, he suggested I carry the 80 psi the tire would hold on my truck tire. I wouldn't carry 70 in my trailer tire, why do it in the truck tire. And to top it off, after I ordered the tires, I found Goodyear is having a $100 off promotion this month.
I'll let you know how they wear.
I opted
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02-25-2018, 06:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CWtheMan
Optional tire sizes offered by vehicle manufacturers disappear once the certification label is installed and verified. When you signed the papers for the trailer the tire size on the certification label became the official size for that trailer. Meaning it's the minimal accepted size and is the benchmark for all subsequent replacements.
The whole tire industry uses vehicle certification labels to verify minimal acceptable replacement tire/wheel sizes. You can verify that by reading any tire manufacturer's/retailer's SOP manual.
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Most forget that before 2006 many RVs didn’t have a tire certification label. Our 2005 Copper Canyon has a label on a cabinet door near the sink, like most before 2006 had.
Think about it far better location than front drivers side of the trailer, where it fades in about three years.
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2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
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02-26-2018, 03:56 AM
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Location: Lafayette
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Originally Posted by travelin texans
I'm on the overkill side, 1 less thing to worry about.
Mine originally was to be equipped with 16" "E" rated GY China Bombs, I opted for the GY 114 "G" upgrade & when it was time to replace went 17.5" H rated Sailun tires & wheels & would do the same in a minute the next time.
Hauling these things down our wonderful interstates/highways systems across the country there's enough things to be shaken/rattled/torn up & now tires aren't on that list for me anymore.
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I agree, with the roads we deal with around the country I don't believe there is such a thing as overkill!! What one person considers overkill may not be for another. Its called piece of mind!
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02-26-2018, 08:06 AM
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Location: North Carolina
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good price on those sampsons.
I just put the new Goodyear Endurance on my 5er last October. they have like 550/600 miles on them today. They are covered up right now but soon and very soon they will be uncovered. BUT I had run 2 sets of Maxxis during the last 7 years we have owned the trailer. replaced the factory bombs then the second year we owned it.
So I cant way in on too much. other than they were $618.00 out the door with mounting and balancing each while off the trailer. Discount tire here in town. BUT I know the asst. .manager so he supposedly hooked me up.
randy
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2011 Cougar 327RES
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03-04-2018, 04:44 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Eaton Rapids
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Quote:
Originally Posted by truth
235 80 16. I don't recall the brand but they look cheap to me. I was looking at the Saliun s637.
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sailuns are the best
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03-07-2018, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
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Another vote for Goodyear Endurance. I just installed them on my 336BHS.
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03-08-2018, 02:54 AM
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Location: Germantown, TN
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Cabindweller, I'm curious what makes you recommend a tire you just bought, with which you have no experience, to someone needing help with choosing a proper tire. Would it be because it is black, nice and round, and has the Goodyear brand? Yes, I am poking that now well-known stick through the fence, but surely you see where I'm coming from.
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
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03-08-2018, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by truth
Guys,
I'm looking to replace the tires on my 2016 Cougar 336bhs fifth wheel. Any recommendations?
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So posted a bit back about putting Yokohama YK-HTX LT 235/85-16 E's on our 32" Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS with a dry weight of 9,820# and a GVWR of 12,360#.
Now CWtheMan came back about these were Optional tires on our 5,200# axles, but they do cover the axle weight well, almost including the entire GVWR. They are rated at 3,042# ea. that is a total of 12,168# capacity. Now the tires I run on my truck are also LT's although a slightly larger capacity, but I don't worry too much about brushing a curb, or hitting a bad set of RR tracks, they don't tend to fail. In addition they are rated for that 3,042# at 106 MPH! Most ST tires while having about a 300# per tire capacity advantage are only rated to carry that to 65 mph, there are some rated to as much as 85.
This is why I chose to go with LT tires rather than ST's.
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2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
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03-08-2018, 11:56 AM
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In addition they are rated for that 3,042# at 106 MPH!
Do you have any video? I'm thinking a trailer doing 106 mph would be....spectacular!
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Kansas City, MO
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03-08-2018, 12:11 PM
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Location: Portland, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ctbruce
In addition they are rated for that 3,042# at 106 MPH!
Do you have any video? I'm thinking a trailer doing 106 mph would be....spectacular!
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Actually there is a video somewhere of the land speed record for a trailer at about 106 or so.
Found it!!!
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2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
Visit and enjoy Oregon State Parks
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03-08-2018, 02:27 PM
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Site Team | Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Kansas City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhagfo
Actually there is a video somewhere of the land speed record for a trailer at about 106 or so.
Found it!!!
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Wow! Not for the faint hearted...
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Kansas City, MO
2016 Impact 312
2017 Silverado 3500HD SRW
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03-09-2018, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Cabindweller, I'm curious what makes you recommend a tire you just bought, with which you have no experience, to someone needing help with choosing a proper tire. Would it be because it is black, nice and round, and has the Goodyear brand? Yes, I am poking that now well-known stick through the fence, but surely you see where I'm coming from.
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It’s based on a tremendous amount of research, specs and the fact that I was just in the same situation as the OP, deciding on which tires to buy for the exact same Cougar model camper. If you don’t like my recommendation, don’t take it and move on to the next post.
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2017 F350 SuperDuty - Lariat, Crew Cab, PowerStroke, SRW, 4x4
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03-09-2018, 09:21 PM
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach
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Good to see so many testing the Endurance for GY. So far it looks pretty good. It will take 5 years to be certain. Then, still need to watch GY as the Marathons were good when they came out and then..... My Cougar came with LR E tires and switched them to Carlisle LR F. I'd do the same again but now run Sailun LR G on the Montana.
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