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Old 04-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #1
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Roof on the Premier, I'm so confused

Ok, I thought the Premier had a rubber roof, but while checking out my antenna head I noticed my roof did not appear to be rubber at all... Instead is was a hard plastic, sort of like a cap that would be placed on top? Anyone know what this is, or is it really what everyone calls a rubber roof?

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Old 04-28-2013, 07:51 PM   #2
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Keystone's website only gives specs up to 2013 models and for those it says
"One Piece Seamless Rubber Roof
Durable rubber roof to last the life time of the trailer"

Most ( if not all ) Keystone trailers have EPDM rubber roofs unless this is something new for '14.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:35 AM   #3
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I contacted Keystone and the 2014 Keystone Bullet Premier is not using EPDM, it's using an alpha-ply product now. Here is a link to the product where you can find out more about it. There are two pretty good videos that talk about the product and how to install it.... enjoy...

http://www.alphasystemsinc.com/Produ...roducttypeid=1

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Old 04-29-2013, 02:24 PM   #4
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I contacted Keystone and the 2014 Keystone Bullet Premier is not using EPDM, it's using an alpha-ply product now.
Jealous (I think). My 200 Cub had a similar "plastic" roof and I think it was much more durable than the EPDM rubber that is on my 2013 Premier.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #5
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Cool. Are these going on all models or just Premier?
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:47 PM   #6
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I believe the alpha-ply is more of a weight saving effort. It is supposed to be 1/3 lighter.


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Old 04-29-2013, 03:51 PM   #7
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I hope it holds up better then the plastic roofs on the Fleetwood (Coleman) pop-up campers.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:06 PM   #8
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So…is it as walkable as the EPDM? I imagine it's a lot easier to clean.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:27 PM   #9
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I think the material is walk-able as long as the roof is built for it, but I'm not sure the roof on the Premier is really designed to be walked on. Today I swapped out my antenna for a Jack antenna and just used a ladder. When I pushed on the roof there was some give between the beams.

I do not know for sure but after taking a factory tour and seeing them running Bullets and Premiers on the same line, my guess is that the 2014 Bullet will also have the new roof.

Easier to clean... Well you just spray it off, no need to treat it with anything once every so often. It doesn't create the black streaks on the trailer either so that helps keep the rig clean.

I read it holds up better with UV rays, which is good since I'm storing it outside and not under any type of cover.

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Old 02-21-2014, 09:28 PM   #10
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I think the material is walk-able as long as the roof is built for it, but I'm not sure the roof on the Premier is really designed to be walked on. Today I swapped out my antenna for a Jack antenna and just used a ladder. When I pushed on the roof there was some give between the beams.

I do not know for sure but after taking a factory tour and seeing them running Bullets and Premiers on the same line, my guess is that the 2014 Bullet will also have the new roof.

Easier to clean... Well you just spray it off, no need to treat it with anything once every so often. It doesn't create the black streaks on the trailer either so that helps keep the rig clean.

I read it holds up better with UV rays, which is good since I'm storing it outside and not under any type of cover.

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I called Keystone on this roof as it is a first for me. According to them, it is walkable. However, they do not recommend it of course. I will not be the one to test it out.

Thanks for adding the bit about swapping out your antenna for the Jack Antenna. I wanted to upgrade the antenna as well. And I could not remember which antenna it came with. I only used my Bullet Premier once before winterizing it. I did not have a chance to give the antenna a good look, among other things. And it is up in Upstate NY 150 miles from me at Camping World, getting some issues worked out. So I cannot go out an look at it.
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:48 AM   #11
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Very interesting, since I just dragged home a new Premier yesterday. I guess I'll have to get out a ladder and check it out today.
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Very interesting, since I just dragged home a new Premier yesterday. I guess I'll have to get out a ladder and check it out today.
Congrats! Bought from Deans in Tulsa?
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I bought it at Jamatt, in Poteau. I live in Broken Bow,all the way in the SE corner.
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I bought it at Jamatt, in Poteau. I live in Broken Bow,all the way in the SE corner.
Cool.... Have you owned an RV before? Or this your first?

Where will you be camping? Wifey and I mostly camp around Skiatook lake or Grand (south side so we have access to lake and ATV areas)...

Have also taken trips to Tenkiller, Tallequah, Waynoka, Siloam Springs, Western AR, etc....
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Very interesting, since I just dragged home a new Premier yesterday. I guess I'll have to get out a ladder and check it out today.
Congrats on the new RIG, Its a really nice model and looks very sharp.
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Thanks for adding the bit about swapping out your antenna for the Jack Antenna. I wanted to upgrade the antenna as well. And I could not remember which antenna it came with. I only used my Bullet Premier once before winterizing it. I did not have a chance to give the antenna a good look, among other things. And it is up in Upstate NY 150 miles from me at Camping World, getting some issues worked out. So I cannot go out an look at it.
Believe me, the factory installs the cheapest antenna they have. Before I swapped mine out for the Jack antenna I couldn`t get but one channel. I right away I knew I needed to change it out. Same thing as on my old Dutchman. The Jack antenna works great, I get upwards of 25 channels in my area.
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Cool.... Have you owned an RV before? Or this your first?

Where will you be camping? Wifey and I mostly camp around Skiatook lake or Grand (south side so we have access to lake and ATV areas)...

Have also taken trips to Tenkiller, Tallequah, Waynoka, Siloam Springs, Western AR, etc....
Thanks SAD, and you too Chartrand!

It is our 3rd TT, and we've only been at it since 2008. I hope we keep this one much longer. I just figured up that we spent about 55 nights in our 2011 model and, with the depreciation hit, taxes, insurance, and maintenance, it cost about $10,000. That comes out to about $182/night - some pretty expensive lodging, and that doesn't even count campground fees or the extra gas burned towing it 7,000 miles.

But, I just retired and my dreams are to take it on several 2 week to 2 month trips a year. We just got back from a 23 day trip to Florida. We have firm plans for a 2-3 week trip to the Missouri Ozarks in April and are still undecided between Kentucky and West Virginia, or Colorado and New Mexico for the summer.
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Thanks SAD, and you too Chartrand!

It is our 3rd TT, and we've only been at it since 2008. I hope we keep this one much longer. I just figured up that we spent about 55 nights in our 2011 model and, with the depreciation hit, taxes, insurance, and maintenance, it cost about $10,000. That comes out to about $182/night - some pretty expensive lodging, and that doesn't even count campground fees or the extra gas burned towing it 7,000 miles.

But, I just retired and my dreams are to take it on several 2 week to 2 month trips a year. We just got back from a 23 day trip to Florida. We have firm plans for a 2-3 week trip to the Missouri Ozarks in April and are still undecided between Kentucky and West Virginia, or Colorado and New Mexico for the summer.
I envy you. I'll be 43 this year... Hoping to retire at 55. Trying to figure out how to make that happen.
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Don't wish your life away. Have fun while you can, and SeaDoos are fun!
Considering selling the skis. Pontoon/tritoon in our future. First grand kid due this summer. Skis don't don't work so well for "family friendly" weekend trips. Bad part is I doubt I could fit it in my shop where the skis currently park. Would have to park outside (in the elements) or figure something else out.
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