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06-04-2017, 01:48 PM
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Yikes! Here's a please be careful for everyone
Saw this in the newspaper just after we got home from our weekend camping. Sad news.
http://www.startribune.com/couple-fo...ted/426278761/
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06-04-2017, 01:53 PM
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Sad tragedy for sure. What can you say other than please people, read the notices that come with appliances, they are there for a reason. My condolences to the family.
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06-04-2017, 01:53 PM
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Carbon monoxide, the silent killer. We certainly all need to be aware of not only our own surroundings, but our neighbors as well.
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06-04-2017, 02:03 PM
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That's sad to hear. I'm just curious why they would have a genset running while they're sleeping? That's the most dangerous thing that I've ever heard especially having the genset in a storage compartment without it being installed properly.
They must have been really heavy sleepers as a carbon monoxide detector is beyond loud!
Hope that everyone who reads this story takes a few mins and checks to make sure that theirs are working properly. Also check the smoke detectors. They say to replace the batteries once a year. I replace all of my batteries 4 times a year.
The cost of some batteries is well worth an alarm working properly to save my life.
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06-04-2017, 05:07 PM
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As stated very sad story, we all need to check all these detectors periodically.
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06-04-2017, 05:24 PM
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Brings back a sad memory from my teenage years. A friend and his girl parked at the usual spot in Thunder Bay ON. Left the car running (rusted out floors) remember this was back in the 50s. The outcome was that he was overcome with carbon monoxide and died she was in hospital for quite a while recovering.
Carbon Monoxide is not to be taken lightly. I have worked in the oil patch for many years and have seen the effects of sour gas also a silent killer.
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06-05-2017, 06:13 AM
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They were probably running the generator, while sleeping, to power a CPAP or oxygen concentrator . Hearing aids off, so couldn't hear the CO alarm. Getting old is dangerous.
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06-05-2017, 06:37 AM
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I don't think any of us will ever know "what really happened about why they didn't hear the CO alarm". But, consider this: All CO alarms have a "service life" of about 5 years. After that, the sensor won't sense CO concentrations as well as when new. That means they might not sense an early, low concentration and may not alarm properly.
So, imagine this scenario: The sensor was old, it still worked, but not at low concentrations of CO. They went to sleep, or maybe they were watching TV and the CO level rose enough to make them drowsey. The alarm didn't sound because the sensor was old. The CO level rose to lethal levels, the sensor finally started working, sounded the alarm, but it was too late, both of the occupants were unconscious. When the first responders got there, the alarm was working, but it was too late....
As I said, we'll probably never know "exactly what happened", but their unfortunate and untimely death should serve as a reminder to all of us to check the service date on our CO and LP detectors. If they are 5 years old, consider replacement. Here's a catch to consider: Some new CO detectors are being advertised with lithium batteries that last 10 years, buried deep in the owner's manual is a statement that the sensor service life is 5 years. So, buyer beware ????
None of us deserve to be the "next victim" of such an unfortunate accident.
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06-05-2017, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
I don't think any of us will ever know "what really happened about why they didn't hear the CO alarm". But, consider this: All CO alarms have a "service life" of about 5 years. After that, the sensor won't sense CO concentrations as well as when new. That means they might not sense an early, low concentration and may not alarm properly.
So, imagine this scenario: The sensor was old, it still worked, but not at low concentrations of CO. They went to sleep, or maybe they were watching TV and the CO level rose enough to make them drowsey. The alarm didn't sound because the sensor was old. The CO level rose to lethal levels, the sensor finally started working, sounded the alarm, but it was too late, both of the occupants were unconscious. When the first responders got there, the alarm was working, but it was too late....
As I said, we'll probably never know "exactly what happened", but their unfortunate and untimely death should serve as a reminder to all of us to check the service date on our CO and LP detectors. If they are 5 years old, consider replacement. Here's a catch to consider: Some new CO detectors are being advertised with lithium batteries that last 10 years, buried deep in the owner's manual is a statement that the sensor service life is 5 years. So, buyer beware ????
None of us deserve to be the "next victim" of such an unfortunate accident.
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Terribly sad story. That's good to know about the 5yr service life. Thanks! I almost succumbed to CO poisoning myself several years back. I lit the gas fireplace and forgot to open the flue. Oops! Luckily this was in a duplex, the neighbor called it in, and they got there in time to rouse me.
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06-05-2017, 10:23 AM
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I wonder if they had a CO detector installed. I know my TT didn't come with one. I put one in a while back.
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06-05-2017, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfifield01
I wonder if they had a CO detector installed. I know my TT didn't come with one. I put one in a while back.
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Your 2810 should have come with one. Mine has it on the wall in the bedroom.
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06-06-2017, 08:24 AM
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Sad for a couple who should be enjoying retirement.
Replacing CO detectors after five years is good to know. My trailer has two of one detector (I think it's CO). We sleep with everything off except the blankets, but that detector is an important one for a gas as insidious as CO.
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06-06-2017, 08:54 AM
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Here's some interesting info on CO detectors. Not just for aviation use. Keep reading to where home detectors are evaluated and how some brands are programmed to minimize false alerts. Eye opener...
https://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/186016-1.html
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