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Old 06-17-2017, 10:15 PM   #1
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Slide seals and 303 Aerospace Protectant

I finally got around to applying some 303 on both sets of slide-out seals at the campground 2 days ago. Sprayed it on a soft cloth and ran it down both the inside and outside of each seal. Didn't do top seals (under the slide toppers) as I only had access to my step stool. Yesterday, after prepping for departure, I began to run both slides in. It seems that both slides now screech/squeal and shudder extensively when moving in and out. This is an obvious correlation to applying the 303 Protectant. Anyone have this experience with 303 on the slide seals? I'm thinking baby powder is all that was needed. The noises and shuddering did not exist before the application of 303.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:59 AM   #2
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I use the foamy slide seal conditioner. No noise. 303 is good stuff, and I bought it for my roof, but I don't use it on my slide seals.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:31 AM   #3
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I use the foamy slide seal conditioner. No noise. 303 is good stuff, and I bought it for my roof, but I don't use it on my slide seals.
Also have used this foamy stuff, no issues other that I put the can somewhere so I can have easy access to it. Yeah can not remember where this easy aces place is
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:37 AM   #4
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There are three or four "well documented" threads on the forum, some as recent as last month, describing the "shuddering slide" issue. Every one of them leads back to using "conditioner" on the slide seals. In all cases, cleaning the slide seals thoroughly and then applying a product call "Zep 45" and solving the shudder.

Sourdough and gearhead both documented their problems and solutions in various threads. I'd suspect that your shuddering is directly related to using Aerospace 303 on the seals of a cable driven slide system.

Make it a "happy camper event" by cleaning the seals well, using the "right stuff" to condition them and keep the 303 for roofs, sidewalls and decal protection.

Good Luck !!!

ADDED: Ram driven slides are an "entirely different beast" and aren't nearly as "picky" as cable slides, so with my ram slide, I wouldn't hesitate to use 303, but on the smaller cable slide, I'd be very reluctant, so I just use the same "Camco foam seal conditioner" on all of them. Oh, Paraptor, maybe you left that can at my house? I found an extra that I didn't know I had on the shelf in the garage...... THANKS !!!!!
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:01 AM   #5
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I think there is a direct correlation between the 303 and the grabbing, jerking slides. It happened to me as well. It also happened when I took it to the dealer to have them fix it and they applied the foamy stuff they used. Once we were I FL I had to wash and rinse the entire slide bottoms and side seals then apply Zep 45. The problem was gone.
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Old 06-18-2017, 01:37 PM   #6
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Zep 45 isn't easily obtainable. There are three varieties as well, Dual Force, Penetrating lubricant, and Lubrisil NC.

I'm going to use wash down all the slide seal's (bottoms and sides) with water and dish soap, then wipe again with denatured alcohol on both sides of each seal.

Is there a trusted and recommended alternative to Zep 45? I have two trips in the next 10 days and won't have time to wait for shipment outside of Amazon's prime.
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Don't know if I have just been lucky but have only used generic baby powder on slides on 3 RVs so far with no issues. Cheap and easy to apply. Just sprinkle on a rag and wipe on dry seals both bubble and wipers. Also use it on entry and storage door weatherstrips. JMO
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:02 PM   #8
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Don't know if I have just been lucky but have only used generic baby powder on slides on 3 RVs so far with no issues. Cheap and easy to apply. Just sprinkle on a rag and wipe on dry seals both bubble and wipers. Also use it on entry and storage door weatherstrips. JMO
I'm going your route. I watched a YouTube video on RV slide seal maintenance and the fulltimer (RVGeeks) swore by the results of baby powder to condition each seal. Now, I just need to carefully remove the 303 protectant.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:15 AM   #9
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I'm going your route. I watched a YouTube video on RV slide seal maintenance and the fulltimer (RVGeeks) swore by the results of baby powder to condition each seal. Now, I just need to carefully remove the 303 protectant.
I tried slide specific conditioner with bad results (jerkiness). I've gone to baby powder now and haven't seen any issues.
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Zep 45 isn't easily obtainable. There are three varieties as well, Dual Force, Penetrating lubricant, and Lubrisil NC.

I'm going to use wash down all the slide seal's (bottoms and sides) with water and dish soap, then wipe again with denatured alcohol on both sides of each seal.

Is there a trusted and recommended alternative to Zep 45? I have two trips in the next 10 days and won't have time to wait for shipment outside of Amazon's prime.

Yes, the Zep 45 comes in different formulas. When I was dealing with Norco and ordering mine (by the case) they told me which one but I don't recall and I'm in CO, without the trailer, so can't look. I think the label said it had ptfe? but not sure. I do know it fixed mine, sent a can to another member of the forum with the same issue and he said it fixed his and I gave a can to the service manager at the dealership and he was amazed. I bought mine from Zep, but again, I had to buy a case.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:56 PM   #11
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Yes, the Zep 45 comes in different formulas. When I was dealing with Norco and ordering mine (by the case) they told me which one but I don't recall and I'm in CO, without the trailer, so can't look. I think the label said it had ptfe? but not sure. I do know it fixed mine, sent a can to another member of the forum with the same issue and he said it fixed his and I gave a can to the service manager at the dealership and he was amazed. I bought mine from Zep, but again, I had to buy a case.
Not investing in a case, for sure. I'll just keep my eye out on a single can from an eBay vendor.
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Not investing in a case, for sure. I'll just keep my eye out on a single can from an eBay vendor.

Come on! It's just money and then you would have a lot of lubricant. Gave some to my son in law and he said it was head and shoulders above WD 40. Case price came to about $12xx a can. One member sent me a link where you could buy one can and I think it was about $20 per can. For me, with the problems I was having, and the dealer quoting a minimum of $1200 per slide to pull them and try to repair them, I bought the case of Zep singing and dancing.....AFTER it fixed the problem.
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Have always 303 on my slide seals with no problems.
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:47 AM   #14
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At the campground now. I was able to wash and clean the seals to each slide. Applied a generous amount of baby powder to them after letting them dry. Ran them in and out but was still experiencing the shuddering and noise.

It wasn't until I applied powder to the top edge of the very rigid "seal plate" which makes contact with the bottom of the slide that I saw positive results. A few more extend and retract cycles and the slides are now moving smoother than ever.

Baby powder is abundant in our house as we still have 1 in diapers. So cost to me, $0. Won't be using any other seal conditioner as I've read bad things too.
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Baby powder and wax on the slide sides only here as well. Only problem is it so slick sometime the seals don't flip.
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