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Old 10-20-2017, 08:50 AM   #11
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I agree with the higher resale on the diesel, but overall maintenance on newer diesels tends to be higher than gas. In the end, you get convenience out of a diesel.

I've looked at Ram 2500s and engine options. The Ram has a great gas option of the 6.4l. I don't plan on purchasing now, but I would probably opt for the 6.7l diesel. I know that it would purely be for convenience, not the best financial option.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:28 AM   #12
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I bow at the altar of the (Cummins, for me) diesel because its the best tool for the job.

Need to tow? Best tool. Daily driver? Best mileage. Want to keep it a long time? The engine will go way over 500,000 miles.

I’m at 334,500. No rust. Daily driver. Nice interior with Katzkin leather. Tow stuff. Haul stuff (8’ bed). 21-22 MPG. Good power at the 5400’ where I live (thank you turbo). I’m past the recall threats and before the gimmicky enviro bling and variable vane turbos, etc. that create problems, so maintenance has just been the usual stuff as mileage accumulates. Less expensive than buying a new truck and starting all over again. Works for my lifestyle and needs. Like my airplane, I just rub a little money on it occasionally. Has anyone priced a new airplane recently? Worse than paying $100,000 for a blingy Ford.

A diesel isn’t for everyone, and it isn’t an investment. Its a tool, like an F-150 or a Subaru Outback is a tool for a specific task. A D-Jaguar or a front engine, four cam Ferrari is an investment.
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Old 10-21-2017, 04:59 AM   #13
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Thank you all.
After reading all the helpful comments and a short look at truck options we've decided that we are pretty happy with our current setup.
And it's all paid for.

Thanks again.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:46 AM   #14
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Thank you all.
After reading all the helpful comments and a short look at truck options we've decided that we are pretty happy with our current setup.
And it's all paid for.

Thanks again.
That’s a biggy.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:27 AM   #15
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“It’s paid for”
Probably the biggest reason I keep my ‘94.
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Old 10-21-2017, 08:24 PM   #16
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Rob,

You didn't say if the weight you quoted was dry or gvw. Given it's a 5th wheel I assume dry (very light weight), which means the pin is also dry. If so, the loaded weight and pin will tax any 1/2 ton truck so looking at a 3/4 ton is the prudent thing to do if you are thinking of going to that trailer.

As far as gas 3/4 ton HD trucks remember that the GM HD's put out less power than their Ford/Ram rivals; 360-380 lb. ft. vs about 430 for the other 2. You aren't interested in a diesel, and I don't think you have to have one for that trailer. I pull a 10k gvw with a Ram 6.4 gas HD truck. Weighs in around 92-9300 generally. The truck does fine but in the mountains the engine will let you know it's working. Nothing terrible, and I've not had to exceed 3500 rpm to maintain the speed limit with the exception of long steep grades with a speed limit exceeding 60 mph or so, so I just drive at 55.

As far as axle ratios, I really like a 4.10 but if you use the truck for things other than towing the mileage is bad; it's fun to hit the go pedal but the gas gauge sure likes to show how much your "fun" costs. In the past several years I've owned 4.10, 3.92, 3.73 (current), 3.55 as well as others. I think my favorite all around ratio is the 3.73 since I do more non towing driving than towing.

I think the Ford or Ram would do fine (power numbers are almost identical) but don't know about the GM gasser. And, as I've always said, to me 10k is the limit for a gas engine. At that point you just need to step up to the diesel unless you really like listening to an engine work hard if you drive hill/mountains. Good luck finding the combo that makes you happy
My 2002 Silverado 2500 hd with the 8.1 has 340hp and 455 lb ft of torque. I did toss in a small tune from Blackbear and now have about 390hp and 500 lb ft of torque... LOVE the 8.1...
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:13 AM   #17
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My 2002 Silverado 2500 hd with the 8.1 has 340hp and 455 lb ft of torque. I did toss in a small tune from Blackbear and now have about 390hp and 500 lb ft of torque... LOVE the 8.1...
I loved my 02 8.1 also but my 07 LBZ diesel has it beat. Stock the LBZ is 360 hp and 650 ft lbs torque. I have an Idaho Rob EFILive tuning with a DSP5 switch and it gives me a choice of hp 30, 60, 90, 120 and enhanced stock. The 30 and 60 are tow tunes and include turbo braking when in tow/haul
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:07 PM   #18
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MPG loss with higher gearing is almost all at highway speed. City driving you can actually see an improvement. At least this is what some owners of Rams with the 6.4 Hemi have reported. So, it really depends on how you use the truck. For me, MPGs is the last thing I'd think about when deciding on the right gear for towing. If I cared about it, I'd get a Prius and stay in hotels
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:37 PM   #19
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My 2002 Silverado 2500 hd with the 8.1 has 340hp and 455 lb ft of torque. I did toss in a small tune from Blackbear and now have about 390hp and 500 lb ft of torque... LOVE the 8.1...


I love the numbers but I believe the last 8.1 built was at the end of 2009.....
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07 was the end of the 8.1
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