Cummins legal issues

[jasin1]

[QUOTE=SR71 Jet Mech;554036]Oh yeah good call on that one (from what I hear/read). Yeah even on the Ram forum no one had it done yet so no real experience anywhere. I had just bought a 2015 Jetta Diesel and went through that debacle.
Anyway I guess if they had reflashed yours it didn’t make a real noticeable difference to you…….IF

Come to think of it mine was in for the “relay” and the “tailgate” deal a few months back so maybe?


yeah you never know what they slip into a software update…mine has updated twice over the air by satellite also…i hardly ever drive my truck…only use it for towing the fiver and a occasional trip to pickup kids from the airport….need to drive it more so things don’t freeze up from sitting

[GlasNav]

From what I read on a copy of the 67A Emissions Recall, the cutoff year is 2018.

So does this exclude those of us with Cummins Gen 5 engines?

[jxnbbl]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

Do they even make that model anymore? Knew of a few people that weren't happy with theirs.....and the Nissan's with the Cummins V-8.

RE: eco-diesel, they were discontinued in 2023 but I think they had them from 2016->2023. I never really had a problem with mine except for an EGR cooler problem which they ended up recalling. I liked the engine and it was a good alternative for the 1500 truck.

[SR71 Jet Mech]

Originally Posted by GlasNav

From what I read on a copy of the 67A Emissions Recall, the cutoff year is 2018.

So does this exclude those of us with Cummins Gen 5 engines?

Not sure. The Ram forum listed the same recall number up through’23 however, it did have a split for some reason between’18-‘19. It seems to be somewhat vague.

[JWyatt]

No problem...don't buy Dodge!

[GlasNav]

Originally Posted by JWyatt

No problem...don't buy Dodge!

Let's not go there:

Ford had to buy Navstar from International Harvester to get a decent diesel.

Chevy / GMC have to purchase engines from Mitsubishi since theirs were crap, and I have worked with many of the larger Detroit Diesels which were and are fine. GM just could never get the small diesels right.

Dodge has been with Cummins since they put diesels in pickups.

I wish I still had my early 90s PowerStroke 7.3 with WasteGate Turbo!

[chuckster57]

Just another reason why I love my IDI.

[Badbart56]

Originally Posted by GlasNav

Let's not go there:

Ford had to buy Navstar from International Harvester to get a decent diesel.

Chevy / GMC have to purchase engines from Mitsubishi since theirs were crap, and I have worked with many of the larger Detroit Diesels which were and are fine. GM just could never get the small diesels right.

Dodge has been with Cummins since they put diesels in pickups.

I wish I still had my early 90s PowerStroke 7.3 with WasteGate Turbo!

Ford has been doing well with there own 6.7 since 2010. The old 7.3 was a great motor that Navistar provided but I'm sure you know the horrors of folks that bought the 6.0 and the 6.4 had it's share of problems too. So currently Ford is the only one building their own diesel in house.

[RJS3791RD]

And Navistar is now owned by TRATON group, which just happens to be held by Volkswagen AG. As well, Interntional is now owned and operated by Volkswagen which is developing an EV product lineup to be built in South Carolina under the International brand.

Oh how the automotive / truck industry continues to evolve and change

[Badbart56]

Originally Posted by GlasNav

Let's not go there:

Ford had to buy Navstar from International Harvester to get a decent diesel.

Chevy / GMC have to purchase engines from Mitsubishi since theirs were crap, and I have worked with many of the larger Detroit Diesels which were and are fine. GM just could never get the small diesels right.

Dodge has been with Cummins since they put diesels in pickups.

I wish I still had my early 90s PowerStroke 7.3 with WasteGate Turbo!

Actually, in 1978 Dodge had a Mitsubishi diesel engine option. A friend of mine's Dad had one when they first came out. Pretty sure I read somewhere that there were less than 3000 of these built.

And then Cummins bought a few Dodge trucks, fitted the 5.9 to them and literally took the trucks to Dodge to show them that it could be done. The rest is history.

I don't know anyone that can argue against Cummins engines. Probably the most reliable diesels built. Our current truck (2023 Peterbilt Semi) has an X15 (15 liter) 500 hp Cummins with a 12 speed transmission. We have driven 4 different trucks in the last 4 years at this company, all powered by Cummins and we have not had an engine failure, putting as much as 200,000 miles a year on some of these trucks. Sensor failures, yes, but that's a different story.

And a friend of mine who is the parts manager at a Dodge dealer told me that he had only warrantied 3 Cummins engines in the first 15 years that he had worked there.

[GlasNav]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

And then Cummins bought a few Dodge trucks, fitted the 5.9 to them and literally took the trucks to Dodge to show them that it could be done. The rest is history.

My brother's vessel was a test bed for the QSK series years ago. Considering the close relation with Cummins, we learned the internal history for the development of the 5.9. It's quite a down to earth story I'm willing to share via DM.

No one has mentioned clatterpillar, correction Caterpillar or Deere!

[CedarCreekWoody]

I'm confused over this issue. Can we expect a recall for Ram trucks? Software upgrade?

[GlasNav]

Originally Posted by CedarCreekWoody

I'm confused over this issue. Can we expect a recall for Ram trucks? Software upgrade?

Presently Emissions Recall 67A refers to engines up to model year 2018.

This will probably be a reprograming of the emissions chip to satisfy the findings of the law suit.

[CedarCreekWoody]

Originally Posted by GlasNav

Presently Emissions Recall 67A refers to engines up to model year 2018.

This will probably be a reprograming of the emissions chip to satisfy the findings of the law suit.

Thanks. I'm 2019 so perhaps not affected.

[coop341]

I got my Recall 67A in the mail today.