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11-04-2018, 12:58 PM
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They say the mechanic never works on his own stuff
Well, here I am to tell you that when the mechanic does, its a good thing he can do it and not pay someone. I was having "hot start" issues and finally took a the time to deal with it. After talking to the local fuel injection shop, I removed the injector pump. Because I DONT have a "78' first digits pump its only going to be $800.00 for rebuild, replacement is $1700.00. Today I took the injectors out, what a pain because I found three that were loose and one that must have been leaking past the copper ring and was stuck in place by carbon. No wonder my mileage and power was down. Going to get them pop tested and rebuilt if needed. TOTAL bill in the $1200.00 range, cant imaging what the bill would be for the labor. 1st pic is the injectors. 2nd pic is the mishmash of injector fuel lines. all labeled as they are specific to each injector. last pic is the empty space the pump would sit. two weeks and I should be taking the trailer on a "maiden" voyage again...SO READY!!!!
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-04-2018, 03:09 PM
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You've been busy.
We have done that on Chevy gas engines but never a diesel.
Looks like that is way more involved and expensive.
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11-04-2018, 04:06 PM
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Thanks, yeah I have. Been wrenching on cars for 40+ yrs on the side. Since my truck is “mechanical” (no electronics) it’s easier but still lots of extra details in a Diesel engine.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-04-2018, 08:06 PM
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It does save a bunch of cash if you are set up and able to work on these things. Lost our turbo last year, and earlier this year lost the EGR coolant bypass valve, both expensive fixes, mostly a lot of labor costs. The photos are of our truck getting the turbo replaced.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402 Montana
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC
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11-04-2018, 08:51 PM
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Got to love those cab off repairs! I get so angry at size of my truck when I open the hood and look at the diesel inside and realize I can't get my bear claws anywhere past the coolant recovery tank!
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-05-2018, 05:01 AM
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Marshall, close that hood! There is simply nothing under there for you to see...
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Jim in Memphis, Wife of 51 years is Brenda
2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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11-05-2018, 05:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Marshall, close that hood! There is simply nothing under there for you to see...
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I open it to see the altar of the Diesel Gods and say a prayer over the high pressure fuel pump.
If it self destructs it's an $8K-$10K plus repair.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-06-2018, 06:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
[emoji144]I open it to see the altar of the Diesel Gods and say a prayer over the high pressure fuel pump. [emoji144]
If it self destructs it's an $8K-$10K plus repair.
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We should probably have a blessing of the injector pumps day set aside once a year to bless these things. It would certainly be worth the money. Lol couldn't resist.
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Kansas City, MO
2016 Impact 312
2017 Silverado 3500HD SRW
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11-06-2018, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ctbruce
We should probably have a blessing of the injector pumps day set aside once a year to bless these things. It would certainly be worth the money. Lol couldn't resist.
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I'll gladly take all prayers, blessings, good vibes, best wishes or whatever anyone is into!
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-05-2018, 09:51 AM
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Gone Traveling
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Put new injectors in my 04 last winter. Wasn't a bad job just slow going, so many wires to unplug. Good thing they only go back together one way!!
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11-06-2018, 07:06 AM
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After paying the shop to rebuild my pump and test/rebuild the injectors I’m afraid I’ll have to place an IOU on the collection plate.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-10-2018, 03:24 AM
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Stopped by the shop yesterday, pump is done. Injectors will be pop tested/replaced as needed. $45.00 to rebuild and $52.00 to replace with new, no brainer for me. Hopefully Friday I will start putting it back together.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-10-2018, 04:52 AM
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Good job
I'll raise the hood to check the oil on my 6.7. Anything else - well let's just see what's there if it breaks with all the claptrap covering the engine. Any gas engine - at least the parts prices are within reason and I'll go there. I did rebuild one 350 cid diesel - that Oldsmobile based clunk that Chebbie used about 1980 but that was easy though.
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11-10-2018, 10:04 AM
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Working on the newer trucks, I think an investment in a 2 post lift would be a wise decision, if you have the space for it. From what I understand its pretty easy to pull the cab on the Fords.
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2016 Ford F350 CC 6.7 4x4 SRW (Ghost Rider)
2017 Cougar 29 RKSWE (The Tumble Weed)
Connected by a Curt 15K WDH W/Sway Control
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11-10-2018, 10:38 AM
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Thinking way back to my younger days (actually reminiscing about the past) I remember times before we owned a house with a garage, in Colorado, during a snow storm, crawling into the engine bay of my old Dodge truck, pulling the hood down as far as possible while crouching over that 360 CU IN engine to change the points or distributor or to do other "top end stuff" to get it running or keep it running.
These days, things have changed A LOT !!!!! Gone is the ability to even "hover over the engine bay" in most vehicles, there aren't any points or distributor and the parts that "keep it running" are located in the passenger kick plate, not under the hood....
Honestly, with my "age related stiffness" coupled with my lack of desire to be cold and uncomfortable, I'd just as soon let the Ford guy do the crawling over, under and even into all those "odd places they stick stuff".....
To me, it's even easier to let them change the oil rather than me trying to pour it into gallon jugs, cleaning up what I spill and trying to find a place to dispose of it after I'm done......
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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11-10-2018, 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
Thinking way back to my younger days (actually reminiscing about the past) I remember times before we owned a house with a garage, in Colorado, during a snow storm, crawling into the engine bay of my old Dodge truck, pulling the hood down as far as possible while crouching over that 360 CU IN engine to change the points or distributor or to do other "top end stuff" to get it running or keep it running.
These days, things have changed A LOT !!!!! Gone is the ability to even "hover over the engine bay" in most vehicles, there aren't any points or distributor and the parts that "keep it running" are located in the passenger kick plate, not under the hood....
Honestly, with my "age related stiffness" coupled with my lack of desire to be cold and uncomfortable, I'd just as soon let the Ford guy do the crawling over, under and even into all those "odd places they stick stuff".....
To me, it's even easier to let them change the oil rather than me trying to pour it into gallon jugs, cleaning up what I spill and trying to find a place to dispose of it after I'm done......
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Same here!
Not so much that I can't do it anymore, but just don't want to anymore. Especially if crawling underneath is required, it's sure a LONG way up from the floor nowadays
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Sold '13 Redwood FB
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11-10-2018, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
Same here!
Not so much that I can't do it anymore, but just don't want to anymore. Especially if crawling underneath is required, it's sure a LONG way up from the floor nowadays
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You got that right !!! I used to sit up on the creeper and then stand up. Now days, it's roll to my side, push up to a sitting position, then roll again to get on my knees and then hold onto something to stand up.... Funny that I don't have the same problems standing up in the boat when fishing, cleaning and dragging a deer or even when getting out of the Slingshot.... But it sure is tough to get off a creeper
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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11-10-2018, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
Thinking way back to my younger days (actually reminiscing about the past) I remember times before we owned a house with a garage, in Colorado, during a snow storm, crawling into the engine bay of my old Dodge truck, pulling the hood down as far as possible while crouching over that 360 CU IN engine to change the points or distributor or to do other "top end stuff" to get it running or keep it running.
These days, things have changed A LOT !!!!! Gone is the ability to even "hover over the engine bay" in most vehicles, there aren't any points or distributor and the parts that "keep it running" are located in the passenger kick plate, not under the hood....
Honestly, with my "age related stiffness" coupled with my lack of desire to be cold and uncomfortable, I'd just as soon let the Ford guy do the crawling over, under and even into all those "odd places they stick stuff".....
To me, it's even easier to let them change the oil rather than me trying to pour it into gallon jugs, cleaning up what I spill and trying to find a place to dispose of it after I'm done......
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Yep. And here we are; me, you and all of those like us. At least I've found that I can sort of "roll" with a mat under me, a step stool beside me, various "things" to stabilize myself and pushing against the side of the trailer....then I can actually get upright!
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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11-10-2018, 06:51 PM
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I guess I kind of have my hand up too. Except I still change the oil in the vehicles. Must be the thriftiness (read cheap) in me. Also must like banging my head under the truck and having oil dripping up my arm.
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11-11-2018, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
Thinking way back to my younger days (actually reminiscing about the past) I remember times before we owned a house with a garage, in Colorado, during a snow storm, crawling into the engine bay of my old Dodge truck, pulling the hood down as far as possible while crouching over that 360 CU IN engine to change the points or distributor or to do other "top end stuff" to get it running or keep it running.
These days, things have changed A LOT !!!!! Gone is the ability to even "hover over the engine bay" in most vehicles, there aren't any points or distributor and the parts that "keep it running" are located in the passenger kick plate, not under the hood....
Honestly, with my "age related stiffness" coupled with my lack of desire to be cold and uncomfortable, I'd just as soon let the Ford guy do the crawling over, under and even into all those "odd places they stick stuff".....
To me, it's even easier to let them change the oil rather than me trying to pour it into gallon jugs, cleaning up what I spill and trying to find a place to dispose of it after I'm done......
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I hear ya! In my youth I've crawled out from under my Gran Torino with the tranny on my chest. Those days are long gone. I'm only 64 but when I was 22 as a passenger in a '64 Mercury Comet had by back broke (crushed L1,L2 &L3) broke my right pelvis into 3 Pieces. Then a simple fall in 1980 resulted in 6 surgeries on left shoulder/arm and 6 cervical spine surgeries. Waiting now on number 7 on the neck for a spinal cord stimulator. When I was a kid my uncle had his own car repair business. He would always say "it's not the age it's the mileage" when referring to a vehicles condition. I think it applies to people as well. I'm not that old but I'm definitely "high mileage". I still change my own oil/filters and do brake replacement but that's about it.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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