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Old 11-07-2018, 04:12 PM   #1
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Pump? Repair, Need Location

Have a 2012-2560RL. Been holding up ok. Just went to winterize plumbing with antifreeze and activated pump (we had poured in 6 gallons antifreeze into fresh water holding tank) It stopped with the typical tut-tut-tut as if full pressure was reached in lines. We opened faucets and nothing came out. No hiss of air in the lines either. A dribble of water came out of 2 of the faucets but stopped almost immediately. Nothing from the other 2. We are guessing the pump is blocked somewhere or has failed. Bypass has been tested in both open and closed and no pink or anything even close moved in the tubing. Worked fine when we took it out of winter mode but not now. So...ideas welcome if you have them. The big question is where is this thing mounted?? We are handy and I have the pump schematic but our undercarriage is covered and intact so I’d rather not slice and dice with at lease some idea of the location. In all of this we saw no leaks anywhere but that won’t be the case if the forecast holds for Saturday! Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:54 PM   #2
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It's no doubt its inside,, probably mounted to the floor. Mine is under a drawer in kitchen. Look for something near the floor that has screws in it so it can be removed, its behind something,, had 1 that I had to remove louvered vent under the frig, and there it was ,, again look for any thing that has screws,, sometimes a little false wall in a lower cupboard will have a panel in there you can unscrew and remove. If it will run follow the noise, but if not start hunting
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:24 PM   #3
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#1 pouring the anti freeze into the fresh water tank was not the best plan, you'll never get the taste out, #2 6 gallons may not be enough to keep suction on the pump, probably nothing wrong with pump, just not enough (too much anti freeze) in the tank.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:49 PM   #4
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#1 pouring the anti freeze into the fresh water tank was not the best plan, you'll never get the taste out, #2 6 gallons may not be enough to keep suction on the pump, probably nothing wrong with pump, just not enough (too much anti freeze) in the tank.
That could be,, sounded like he is new and didn't want to confuse him putting the ant freeze in the water tank and having to explain by pass valves etc. Iam not so good at explaining things with typing
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:08 PM   #5
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#1 pouring the anti freeze into the fresh water tank was not the best plan, you'll never get the taste out, #2 6 gallons may not be enough to keep suction on the pump, probably nothing wrong with pump, just not enough (too much anti freeze) in the tank.

^^^This is probably the problem. I doubt the pump can pressurize with 6 gal of anything in the fresh water tank. And then, it is antifreeze? Bad idea. Ii think I would fully fill the fresh water tank a couple of times and drain before I tried to use any fresh water....and then hope for the best and not try that again.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:43 PM   #6
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Taste

It’s odd. We never have had an issue with the taste from the tanks after the spring de-winterizing. Is this a common issue for people? We flush fresh water tank and lines, fill once more and dump then sanitized with bleach/water for 24 hours. That said, we have a dual filter setup for ‘city’ water connections and also use that system anytime we use/fill the fresh water tank. We also have a great single 3-stage filter for drinking water at the kitchen sink that does a wonderful job of removing the plastic tank/line taste as well as the heavy hard water taste of our favorite campground’s well water. I believe our exterior filters work to 3 microns if memory serves. We have never adapted to the hard water taste and it’s been 20 years since we moved here. Maybe an air compressor would be a wise investment for the future. Thoughts?
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Old 11-07-2018, 11:12 PM   #7
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As others have said, the pump is usually somewhere easy to get to, behind a panel that is easily removed. When you find it, I'm betting you'll find it has a hose input to the pump through a valve and that is where you generally put the anti freeze in.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:26 AM   #8
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Kate, I concur with what was said above. And keep in mind that you have put enough antifreeze in that tank to winterize four times. We only used 2 gallons doing our Raptor and it has about twice the lines yours does.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:49 AM   #9
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Do you have an open drain line somewhere? Maybe that's keeping it from pressurizing.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:56 AM   #10
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Are you absolutely positive the water heater is bypassed? Some have had the valves miss labeled or reversed if so you may be filling the water heater. If that's the case you'll need another 8-10 gallons of anti freeze.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:48 AM   #11
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Hot water tank...

Yep. We had that delightful sulfur smell in it for the first time this spring and jumped all those hoops to clean the plumbing system and tank. We pop the drain plug out after every trip now. Much easier to avoid that then clean it up after!

We bought the simple trailer with RL new in 2012 and so far we have been blessed with mostly routine maintenance, nothing major. Everything from hooking up to backing up can be done with one person with the exception of leveling on site. I really wouldn’t mind a few more ‘amenities’ with the next one!
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:23 PM   #12
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Found The Pump

Keystone finally found it with the VIN. Wasn’t in the usual spot for the model and year. I have the pump schematic and see pink in and pink out. Thanks so much for all the ideas. I have some good ideas of the most likely trouble spots...and will deal with it in the morning;>)
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:54 AM   #13
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If the pump can pressurize from a one gallon bottle it should be able to pressurize from a 6 gallon put in the tank. Also the way OP said the pump stopped it sounded ss it shut off and was pressurize. Jmop.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:44 AM   #14
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If the pump can pressurize from a one gallon bottle it should be able to pressurize from a 6 gallon put in the tank. Also the way OP said the pump stopped it sounded ss it shut off and was pressurize. Jmop.
Provided there's enough in the tank for the pump suction to pick up!!
Six gallons in a 40-50 gallon square tank that's approximately 2' wide & near 6-7' long is like spitting in the ocean.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:13 PM   #15
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Winterized For Season...but

Well, we did manage to winterize but will be replacing the pump this spring. We experimented with city water connecting and it bypassed fine. Long story short, we have a sticky switching valve in the pump. At 6 years old replacing it seems the wisest course. Thanks for all the help.

For those suggesting 2 gallon amts of antifreeze and vacuum suction at the pump...our pump is not equipped with that bonus. It is on my upgrade list though. That’s why the manufacturer has ‘fill potable water tank with 5-6 gallons of antifreeze’ instructions. It’s set up for that method or air compressor blowout only.

At least we got it done. It’s going to be 23 degrees and snow flurries tonight!
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