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Old 05-02-2018, 05:04 PM   #1
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Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I HAVE a 2005 2500 Ram with 78900 miles that I just had to rebuild the whole front end. It JUST seems that it should have lasted longer that that. I'm worred that it might be an expensive on going problem.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:10 PM   #2
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There were recalls for front end/steering problems on my 07. Might help?
https://www.cars.com/recalls/ram-2500/
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:45 PM   #3
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:09 PM   #4
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SIL had an 05 Ram 2500 with the heavier Cummins engine. The front end was replaced shortly after the 3 year bumper to bumper ran out. He found out it was a fairly common problem with the heavy engine. Gassers not so much.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:14 PM   #5
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I have a 2010 worth the Cummins and just did the entire front end on mine also. Only 114k.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:28 PM   #6
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Had 2003 Ram 1500, 106,000 miles and tight as a drum when I traded her in. Not a 2500 but I've not had a front end problem with a Ram in my experience, 1500/2500. 2500 is newer model.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:15 PM   #7
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I neglected to say that the truck has a 5.9 cumin’s in it
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:39 PM   #8
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I had a '94 2500 and needed considerable front end work around 100k. My '04.5 needed the same at around 90k. Traded the '94 at 179k and front end was still tight. Hoping the '04 will be the same with aftermarket grease-able parts .... only 100k now. ..... Still think both are great trucks. The only engine parts replaced on either one was a $30. idler pulley and a $79. lift pump. So I really can't complain.
That front end is much cheaper than a new truck!!!
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:42 PM   #9
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My 06 Chevy 2500 went through front end parts like crazy. Hubs, pitman arm and other things I can't remember the name of. That's honestly what made me sell it and buy my Ram. A couple thousand dollars every couple years just seemed excessive. Granted, I had close to 150K when I sold it but I think I was into just the front suspension for close to 5K. Other than that the truck was nearly flawless.

I'm at 70K with my current Ram 2500 with no problems so far but we'll see. The diesel engine likely does add to the wear and tear due to the added weight.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:05 AM   #10
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Wings, Dodge has had the "death wobble" problem for many years, some so severe they actually recalled thousands and thousands of entire trucks in a buy-back deal. Newer trucks seem to have seen the problem subside. Read a little info here: http://leftcoastdiesel.com/wordpress/?p=206
Also a search on this site (Keystone forums) will yield similar conversation from a couple years ago. Good luck to you.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:10 AM   #11
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Wings, Dodge has had the "death wobble" problem for many years, some so severe they actually recalled thousands and thousands of entire trucks in a buy-back deal. Newer trucks seem to have seen the problem subside. Read a little info here: http://leftcoastdiesel.com/wordpress/?p=206
Also a search on this site (Keystone forums) will yield similar conversation from a couple years ago. Good luck to you.
have drivin many more fords with death wobble than rams. My 2001 3500 ram work truck has had the front end rebuilt 3 times in its 400,000 mile life so far. entire cars bearly lasted 100k miles 20 yrs ago, 100K on a front end or 13 yrs isn't so bad IMO.
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:22 AM   #12
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I have always owned Ford trucks and they don't go past 100K without new front ends; tie rods, bushings, etc. Less, if you live in Medina Co. Texas where not a lot is spent on the roads... places with bad roads mean more frequent front ends on a Ford.
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Old 05-03-2018, 06:51 AM   #13
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I have a 2017 2500 that no one can get aligned properly. Been to 4 shops and finally to delearship. Dealership said all is well... meanwhile I’m driving down the interstate with a crooked steering wheel
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:18 AM   #14
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I have a 2017 2500 that no one can get aligned properly. Been to 4 shops and finally to delearship. Dealership said all is well... meanwhile I’m driving down the interstate with a crooked steering wheel
Does the wheel just naturally sit in that position when running in a straight line? Or, do you have to hold it there to keep the truck running straight?
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Does the wheel just naturally sit in that position when running in a straight line? Or, do you have to hold it there to keep the truck running straight?
Now I have to hold it there to keep it straight. Previously, it was running off the road to the right when I straightened the steering wheel. I've been told the camber is off by 2.6 degrees which may result in a bent frame. Then I was told the camber is off by .3 degrees. They've rotated tires, cross rotated tires, alignments etc. Out of pocket about $300 total between 4 shops with this result is mind boggling
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Here is a little info on the now infamous Dodge death wobble and the buy-back plan/suit:
http://blog.truckrecalls.trucklemonl...back-your.html
Older Dodge pickups have synonymous with death wobble front-ends for ages.
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Now I have to hold it there to keep it straight. Previously, it was running off the road to the right when I straightened the steering wheel. I've been told the camber is off by 2.6 degrees which may result in a bent frame. Then I was told the camber is off by .3 degrees. They've rotated tires, cross rotated tires, alignments etc. Out of pocket about $300 total between 4 shops with this result is mind boggling

You might look closer at the tires/wheels. You said currently you have to keep it turned as in the pic....to the right indicating a left pull. Then you said previously it was going right, which would have had the wheel cocked to the left. In between you said you've had the tires rotated etc. Sure sounds like moving the tires changed the pull. A front end doesn't change alignment issues, or bent frames just because you move the tires around.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:17 AM   #18
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Sent it back to shop earlier to criss cross the tires. At this point, I’m hoping it pulls right so I can possible remedy the problem with new tires. I personally think it’s going left now because of an caster adjustment they made. Tires have been rotated at the shops before this last time without it pulling left.
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Now I have to hold it there to keep it straight. Previously, it was running off the road to the right when I straightened the steering wheel. I've been told the camber is off by 2.6 degrees which may result in a bent frame. Then I was told the camber is off by .3 degrees. They've rotated tires, cross rotated tires, alignments etc. Out of pocket about $300 total between 4 shops with this result is mind boggling
Not the same issue as mine then. When I had the recall front end work done the steering wheel "looks" at about 1:00. That's just where it sits when the front wheels are straight.
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You might look closer at the tires/wheels. You said currently you have to keep it turned as in the pic....to the right indicating a left pull. Then you said previously it was going right, which would have had the wheel cocked to the left. In between you said you've had the tires rotated etc. Sure sounds like moving the tires changed the pull. A front end doesn't change alignment issues, or bent frames just because you move the tires around.
swapped left and right front tires but its still doing the same. So tires and wheels just about officially ruled out. OP didn't mean to hijack your topic. Just at a loss that 4 different shops can't properly align a 2017 truck.
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