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11-08-2018, 04:20 PM
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GCW Rating is 17,100#'s.
I have the Payload Package which is 1 step down from the Heavy Duty Package.
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11-08-2018, 05:14 PM
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meaz93*
But who in their right mind would even consider hooking a 1/2 ton to a 10-12k++...40'er 5th wheel no less?
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We saw it a few years ago while camping at the Jellystone campground in Missoula, MT. It may have been closer to the 10,000 lbs instead of 12 since it looked to be about 38’ long, Cedar Creek if I remember correctly. But, MN plates on it and an F-150 with a fifth wheel hitch in it parked in front of it. I still kind of wish I could have seen them go over Homestake pass by Butte -but from a loonnnggg ways behind...
Side note, but if anyone ever stays in Missoula, I would recommend Jim & Mary’s RV Park over Jellystone.
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11-08-2018, 06:03 PM
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Location: Downey, ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meaz93*
GCW Rating is 17,100#'s.
I have the Payload Package which is 1 step down from the Heavy Duty Package.
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Oh wow! Nice.👍🏽
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11-08-2018, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meaz93*
I think their are morons towing on both sides of the Ford, Chevy, Ram truck debate.
I love my 14` 3.5TT Boost and tow a 9k dry 38' Outback....no problem.
But who in their right mind would even consider hooking a 1/2 ton to a 10-12k++...40'er 5th wheel no less?
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With your 38' Outback you have never towed it at that "9k dry weight"!!! Most "dry weights" posted on brochures or labeled on your rv are on the VERY conservative side so odds are very good your rv NEVER weighed only 9k, dry or otherwise, but much more.
The ONLY time it MIGHT have weighed that was the day it rolled off the assembly line. It has weighed somewhere in the 1200 to 2000 lbs neighborhood more than that "dry weight" the first time you loaded it to travel, putting you on the north side of 10k lbs easily, which also puts you in that same category you just mentioned.
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11-08-2018, 09:28 PM
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Member
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My Rig
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How do you like my Rig?
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11-09-2018, 05:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topglock
A buddy sent me this picture. Not sure if he took it or what. Just thought I should share it for some entertainment.
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Well did some research on the Keystone web site, looks to be a Cougar 344MKS, as it is the only model with that window between the slides.
Key specifications - 344MKS FIFTH WHEEL
Shipping Weight 10,686#
Carrying Capacity 1,874#
Hitch 2,165#
Length 38' 1"
GVWR Calculated 12,560#
Now a 38' 5er with only 1,874# payload would easily exceed that number.
https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...s-fifth-wheel/
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11-09-2018, 05:59 AM
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Obviously your the expert....
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11-09-2018, 06:15 AM
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Location: Visalia
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Originally Posted by xrated
Surely to God, NO ONE could be that stupid..............could they?
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Actually they can. Remember, you can't fix stupid.....
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11-09-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by meaz93*
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Nope! Just my opinion from experience.
Yes! That's a nice looking setup, but if it's suppose to prove you're within weight limits, show us some pictures of your scale slips.
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11-09-2018, 09:36 AM
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Wireman, I believe you need to recognize sarcasm
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11-09-2018, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Mustanger
Wireman, I believe you need to recognize sarcasm
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Wireman only post that people are over payload or need to scale.
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11-09-2018, 01:11 PM
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My F-150 tows my Cougar 1/2 ton nicely. The rig in the picture is definitely NOT a Cougar 1/2 ton
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11-09-2018, 01:14 PM
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Ok people, If nobody has anything POSITIVE to add to this thread, I will lock it.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
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11-09-2018, 01:37 PM
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I'm POSITIVE Spring cant get here fast enough. Sheesh, it's only November.
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11-09-2018, 02:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
Ok people, If nobody has anything POSITIVE to add to this thread, I will lock it.
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Really nothing positive to say about a setup like that, there is being over payload, then there is that picture!!!!
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11-09-2018, 03:07 PM
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My bad....I forgot we were posting to a sarcastic thread.....Carry on!!!!!!
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-09-2018, 03:09 PM
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SORRY!! It was a tongue in cheek comment. I have been around equipment, operated most any you can mention and have been a licenced Red Seal Automotive/Heavy Duty Mechanic for 60 years. So I do understand air bags and their purpose/use.
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11-09-2018, 11:15 PM
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I am going to trade in my truck, I always know the trailer is behind me. Will a 150 do better.
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11-10-2018, 07:02 AM
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Well I see a lot of 5ers pulled/carried by F150 and Tundras, some are somewhat long, but very few look overloaded.
I have stated before much rather see a 1/2 ton towing a long 5er than a long TT, as long as it is in tire capacity, much more stable than long TT.
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