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Old 06-18-2019, 10:43 AM   #71
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Some years back Chevy produced a heavy half ton. I recall seeing a couple trucks with 8 bolt semi-floating rear axles, very rare though. I don't know much about them or the Ford version. When I bought my truck a few years back I thought I might go to a small 5th wheel at some point, so I didn't even bother looking at 1/2 ton trucks.
My trailers pin weight is 2000 lbs weighed and the gross is 10600, about 10200 weighed. I think my 3/4 ton is just big enough. If my trailer were any bigger I'd look to a 1 ton, although some of the newer 3/4 ton trucks have more capacity than mine.



I still think the dry weight is meaningless. Pick any trailer on the dealers lot and weigh it, I guaranty it won't weight that even empty. So why bother referring to it? I also believe everyone should weigh their trailer and tv. It's the only way to know with certainty...unless you don't want to know.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:58 PM   #72
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My 1/2 ton towable Laredo 27 foot

So loaded unit for first maiden voyage, also added 65 gallon tank to back of truck ahead of fifth wheel, along with full water tank on trailer and all gear, weights as follows:
2500 Chevy 6.0 gas everything loaded like I would run

2012 Super Lite 275sbh

Steer axle:4320
Drive axle:5580
Front trailer axle:3700
Rear Trailer axle:3500
Total weight of : 17100

Not seeing it 1/2 ton towable like the sticker I peeled off when new!
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:17 PM   #73
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What you say about your truck is true, but it's disingenuous to make a blanket statement such as, "Shhhhhh then don't tell my little 150 boost that it's only a 1/2 ton cuz it sure thinks it's a big truck.", without qualifying that "your" F150 isn't the typical model but is the HD model. Most novice RV'ers have no idea that Ford even makes a HD model and most would (do) interpret such statements as meaning that "you do it with your truck, I can do it with mine too." That's where the novice gets "hoodwinked" by forum members who "brag about their rig without giving all the facts."



I'd urge you, if you're going to give advice to a novice about towing a fifth wheel with an F150, that you give them ALL the facts, not just the "headlines". Your F150 is not typical. When that concept first came out in around 1999-2001, it was called a "light duty F250," was "badged as an F250 but had the body/chassis of an F150. It was NOT a "SuperDuty." It looked like a F150 and was marketed as such. It was "classed between the F150 and the HD F250". The reason Ford stopped doing that was because of the confusion it caused with people buying the "cheaper F250" thinking it was a "true F250". Once Ford made the heavy duty package an option on the F150 model and discontinued the "light duty F250" the difference between the two suspension options was "lost in the shadows".



Your truck is, by the specifications, not an F150 nor is it an F250. While "badged as an F150" it's really more a "F200" than it is either a LD or a HD truck. Ford doesn't sell enough of them annually to pay for the chrome badges to rename it an F200, so it remains optional equipment for the LD truck line. Sort of like the Raptor, it's a "model all its own" not to be confused with what we all consider an F150.
At one time they were called 5/8 ton... sort of a tweener
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:32 PM   #74
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For those who may not believe that automobile manufacturers do some "strange market testing".... Here's a "itty bitty dually" marketed by Ford in around 2000, 2001. This is the first one I've seen in a long time, but here's proof that F250 DRW trucks do exist. No, I didn't get a photo of the GVW sticker.....
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:34 PM   #75
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Ford stopped making short bed dually in 2009. If still being made I'd have an F350 sb dually.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:36 PM   #76
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So loaded unit for first maiden voyage, also added 65 gallon tank to back of truck ahead of fifth wheel, along with full water tank on trailer and all gear, weights as follows:
2500 Chevy 6.0 gas everything loaded like I would run

2012 Super Lite 275sbh

Steer axle:4320
Drive axle:5580
Front trailer axle:3700
Rear Trailer axle:3500
Total weight of : 17100

Not seeing it 1/2 ton towable like the sticker I peeled off when new!

One more example of what I'm saying. The actual weighed weights are usually much more than the advertised weights.

You can not trust what the trailer manufacturers list as "half ton towable."
They want to sell trailers. The same can be said about the truck manufacturers. They want you to beleave your truck is bigger than it is.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:43 PM   #77
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There are some after market people selling dual wheel conversion kits for 3/4 ton trucks.
They advertise in a few magazines.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:46 PM   #78
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For those who may not believe that automobile manufacturers do some "strange market testing".... Here's a "itty bitty dually" marketed by Ford in around 2000, 2001. This is the first one I've seen in a long time, but here's proof that F250 DRW trucks do exist. No, I didn't get a photo of the GVW sticker.....
A Dually F250 with a Cummins sticker on the back window, priceless...
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