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Old 07-29-2018, 12:53 PM   #1
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Towing Weight Questions? Here's All The Answers!

I was comparing air springs vs the sumo springs being discussed elsewhere and came across this video. I had not seen it before and it is quite possibly the best effort at explaining all the nuances of weights, towing and the ramifications of not following those limits that I have ever seen.

We have had lots of new members and lots that don't understand the various limitations and the interplay between them. It's a little bit long, but, I didn't find it boring even though I knew the information. Here it is and hope you find it worthwhile:



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Old 07-29-2018, 07:23 PM   #2
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I'm bringing this post out, as it falls out the bottom, simply because what it provides is what countless folks have continually asked about; or were confused about...or? Those that have zero idea of towing rules/guidelines MUST review the video. So, until those that have no idea of towing guidelines look into what is required to be "knowledgeable"...I guess we hope for everyone to learn towing "stuff".
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Old 07-30-2018, 02:30 AM   #3
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Excellent video, should be required viewing for those purchasing a rig. Unfortunately there will always be the folks who just don't understand or are unwilling to recognize an error in their judgment by rationalizing that they only "go a short distance" or "don't take much". Typically these are the same folks that come back later asking about attachments to add cargo to the camper's bumper and what's the best route to a cg 600 miles away.
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:43 PM   #4
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Great post and video. This is why I shake my head every time I here the dealer advertisements claiming "Half ton towable" or "our half ton series."

Wishful thinking sells a lot of trailers.
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Old 08-19-2018, 06:04 PM   #5
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Great post and video. This is why I shake my head every time I here the dealer advertisements claiming "Half ton towable" or "our half ton series."

Wishful thinking sells a lot of trailers.
Most rv dealers will say their trailers are towable by "whatchyagot" vehicles. You ask them what you need to tow the triple axle 35,000 lb fiver and the salesman will say "whatchyagot?". You tell him a 1972 Datsun 4 cyl and he tells you "don't worry, whatchyagot will tow anything on the lot!"
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Old 08-19-2018, 07:52 PM   #6
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Yup new 2500 Ford has more gvw then my 2018 3500 duramax . Im supprised isn t lawsuits with Ford posting tremendous amount of weight for 2500.
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Old 08-19-2018, 08:08 PM   #7
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Yup new 2500 Ford has more gvw then my 2018 3500 duramax . Im supprised isn t lawsuits with Ford posting tremendous amount of weight for 2500.
Maximum GVWR for a 2500 is 10,000#. I believe that a Ram 3500 SRW has a max GVWR of 12,400#.
I got to believe that a 3500 Duramax has at least 11,500# of GVWR.

Now if you are talking PAYLOAD, it could be possible that a stripper F250 gasser, could have more payload than a GM 3500 loaded to the gills SRW.

Just the same as a F150 Max/Max can have more payload than a diesel F250.
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Old 08-19-2018, 08:28 PM   #8
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Combined gvw 1ton Ford 33000lbs , I'm seeing big fusions towed with SRW 1 ton dodges with 33000lbs combined weight. My duramax wouldn't be legal but Ford and dodge are go to pull over 30000 lbs .
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Combined gvw 1ton Ford 33000lbs , I'm seeing big fusions towed with SRW 1 ton dodges with 33000lbs combined weight. My duramax wouldn't be legal but Ford and dodge are go to pull over 30000 lbs .
Not sure of your numbers for SRW, Ram has a Max SRW GVWR of 12,400# which is about a 4,000# payload. making a 16,000# 5er about the maximum it can CARRY and Pull within numbers. Making the max GCVWR about 24,000#. I don't have current access to RAM's towing charts.
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:42 PM   #10
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Interesting video. I'm presuming you get hitch weight from the manufacturer or are people just taking a percentage of GVWR of the trailer.
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