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06-11-2019, 05:24 AM
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I was told by both the RV dealer and Dodge that the truck was big enough. I've driven up some pretty steep mountains and is handles the load fine. I was passing other RV people going up hill, didn't seem to strain much on truck. But I will weigh everything and check figures just to be sure. I think where my problem is that I didn't have the trailer brake set high enough and the truck was doing most of the stopping. Since setting the trailer brake gain setting higher, it's not clunking. But Pull Rite said I still will have to make the adjustment bolt tighter now and then until about 5000 mile break in period. On our last trip and gain higher, no clunking, but on the way home, was getting some. Found that after adjusting bolt, it quit. As far as surging, that seems to be normal when going over bumps in the road. Trailer bounces on the bed some, it just worried the wife.
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06-11-2019, 07:19 AM
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I agree! Just because a 2500 looks like the specs can tow 16,000 lbs doesn't mean you should do it. I never like being on the bleeding edge of a spec. I see lots of people doing this with 2500's and I just shake my head. Get a 3500 for a big 5th wheel. Nothing less!
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06-11-2019, 07:33 AM
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the 3120 is the smallest 5th wheel Montana makes as far as I know
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06-11-2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sourdough
I will make this comment, not for further discussion because it's not what you asked nor to chastise or anything else. Just a word of warning in the event you didn't know.
We are in the market for a new truck. It will be a Ram 3500 SRW. I have been trying to spec one out and find it - looks like it may have to be ordered. It will have an approx. 4000 - 4100 lb. payload; maybe 1500 lbs. more than your 3/4. I've also been looking for a new trailer to go with it.
Last week I went through lots of trailers. My criteria was to stay 35' or less and be towable by the aforementioned truck. Of course they want to show you the "big boys" up front. I wanted to look at Cougars because I like them as well as the Montanas or High Countrys. Salesman insisted that I look at the 3120 because it fit the length and he thought I would like the interior. We went through it and I told him "let's go look at the sticker on the side". We did. 35'...good. GVW 16,000lbs. I pointed that out and told him that he should always look at gvw and figure 20% for pin weight when someone like me comes in. 3200 against a 4100 payload was too close IMO. I told him that from my experience if there is a vacant hole somewhere we are going to find/buy something to go in it. So.....let's go back to trailers in the 13k gvw range or so....and we did.
Just to say that that trailer is a LOT for a 3/4 ton and want you to be aware. If you weren't then it's a good thing and hopefully you can take measures to minimize any downsides. If you already knew and thought the diesel made up for it, it doesn't. If you already knew the weight situation and are good with it.....sorry for bringing it up. Just don't want anyone to head out in an upside down situation and not be aware.
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It would be great if you would share the specs you have come up with in your search!
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06-11-2019, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by penra
It would be great if you would share the specs you have come up with in your search!
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What kind of specs do you reference (truck, trailer etc.)?
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
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06-11-2019, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
What kind of specs do you reference (truck, trailer etc.)?
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You mentioned you were looking for a truck with specific specs, 3500 SRW, can you share?
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06-11-2019, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by penra
You mentioned you were looking for a truck with specific specs, 3500 SRW, can you share?
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Sure. 3500, SRW, SB/CC, 6.4L, 4x4, 4.10. Flame Red (preferable), front buckets, Lone Star or Big Horn trim, 8.4 Uconnect with nav, clearance lights, safety pkg. (skid plates, tow hooks etc.), no 20" tires/wheels, tubular side steps (not extended to wheel well), auto headlights, remote start, heated seats/wheel, park sense rear sensors, rear camera (no bed camera), no remote cd player (useless), chrome bumpers - at the moment that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I think they are coming out with the 8 speed tranny so I've just about decided to wait until I can find one of those.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
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06-11-2019, 09:09 AM
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Thanks!
What's the weight on your Cougar?
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06-11-2019, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Sure. 3500, SRW, SB/CC, 6.4L, 4x4, 4.10. Flame Red (preferable), front buckets, Lone Star or Big Horn trim, 8.4 Uconnect with nav, clearance lights, safety pkg. (skid plates, tow hooks etc.), no 20" tires/wheels, tubular side steps (not extended to wheel well), auto headlights, remote start, heated seats/wheel, park sense rear sensors, rear camera (no bed camera), no remote cd player (useless), chrome bumpers - at the moment that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I think they are coming out with the 8 speed tranny so I've just about decided to wait until I can find one of those.
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Boy, it's hard "roughing it", isn't it...
I'm with you!
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06-11-2019, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by penra
Thanks!
What's the weight on your Cougar?
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10k gvw, runs about 92xx loaded.
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06-18-2019, 10:00 AM
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Saw a a dealer from my rv store and when we go in Thursday, he suggested a MoRyde Rubber pin box and an adapter Pullrite capture plate to mate them up and that should deal with the bucking. What is everyone’s thoughts on that suggestion
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06-18-2019, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mroe67
Saw a a dealer from my rv store and when we go in Thursday, he suggested a MoRyde Rubber pin box and an adapter Pullrite capture plate to mate them up and that should deal with the bucking. What is everyone’s thoughts on that suggestion
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You do have a capture plate on your current pin box don't you? The Pullrite must have a capture plate to work correctly (not sure it would slide/work at all without one)
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06-18-2019, 07:48 PM
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It most certainly does have a capture plate, it’s the only way the hitch will work
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06-19-2019, 07:41 PM
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Thought so, just checking!
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06-20-2019, 01:05 PM
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Dealer service manager and tech road with us on a trial ride. Said surging will most likely be corrected if I get a Moryde rubber pin box. But the clunking back and forth they said is normal for the hitch. But he did take a video of me stationary jerking it from forward to reverse and is sending it to Pullrite, so we'll see what happens next. Not sure I want to spend anther $1000 plus on a Moryde pin box just to stop some surging and bucking, but that will depend on how much the wife complains.
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06-20-2019, 09:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank G
I do not normally enter these discussions but you have too much trailer for a 2500 even with a CTD. You need a 3500 DRW truck.
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Well I agree that the towing experience will be better with a 3500 DRW, the difference between a 2500 and 3500 SRW is minimal. The issue most overlook is that the 5er needs to ride as smooth as the TV! you want a smoothest ride possible 5er, level, tires balanced, and good working shocks. You also need decent pin weight, the TV also needs very good shocks.
I pulled/carried a 12,500# 5er with a 2,700# pin on a 2001 Ram 2500 for many years and smooth doing just that TV was 1,700# over GVWR, and didn't have or need air bags.
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08-31-2019, 05:22 AM
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Word back from dealer and Pull-Rite, that everything seems normal, and looked fine. Took a camping trip this last week. Made sure front adjustment bolt was tight and had electric brakes on my Ram set at max (10). Towards the end of the trip, got some minor clunks, but nothing I'm sure a little turn on the adjustment bolt wound't cure. So I guess I just live with the minor clunks and adjust the bolt when needed. Or spend the money on the Moryrde hitch
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09-09-2019, 03:59 AM
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Since I have a short bed with a Pull Rite Super Glide hitch, I have to use a capture plate so the hitch slides correctly when I turn. But it falls off sometimes when I unhitch.. I noticed that the keeper bolt bracket is bending and if I try and bend it back it may crack. So..... I was wondering. If I get the Moryride pin box, will I still need the capture plate?
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09-09-2019, 04:15 AM
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You will still need a capture plate. There are different ones for different pin boxes. If your current plate uses the Allen that hits the rear of the kingpin there is a fix.
Per our rep: find the contact point on the kingpin and drill a VERY SMALL dimple for the Allen screw to hit.
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09-09-2019, 05:20 AM
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Now that makes sense i’ll Do that thanks
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