Double tow with a bumper pull TH

[denren]

Anyone double tow with their TH

[notanlines]

Start here and go from there:
https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguid...triple_towing/
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/t...ions-in-canada

[Big Boy w/ Big Toys]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Start here and go from there:
https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguid...triple_towing/

Do not take that link as a good reference....it's only legal in Alaska if your tow vehicle is over 15k and has air brakes for the TV and the trailers. Many many folks get NAILED coming to Alaska pulling doubles and the state you are coming from does not make a difference.

I looked thru some of the references from that link and even they are not accurate....link states Alaska requires brakes at 3k and above. Link from article says 5k and above. Correct answer is 3k and above requires brakes.

Somebody really needs to write out the correct information for all of the States and Providences when it comes to this stuff. Article must also include licensing requirements. Heck lets make it a book and sell it to fund the forum. I love/hate the web when it comes to information...

Don't take a gamble on what you find on the web. Go directly to the state laws and or the troopers and ask. Tickets suck, impounds cost and peace of mind is priceless.

[denren]

Been researching get a lot of opposing info thanks for replys

[JRTJH]

Double trailer towing with fifth wheels and double trailer towing with "bumper hitch" travel trailers are two entirely different types of towing. Many states west of the "east coast" allow towing two trailers with a fifth wheel. Only a few states, typically in the "Rocky Mountain states" allow towing with a travel trailer. We saw several in Montana and Idaho on our last trip.

I'd suggest you contact the states in which you plan to tow to get the "real story" and not rely on some "not regularly updated" internet site as a source of reliable information.

[BadmanRick]

Jim, That is a very nice setup you have there.

[roadglide]

I seen it done with a big fusion and 14 ft in closed trailer at quartzsite with 2500 duramax .

[Theoldroaddog]

Most states will require a license upgrade to a class A commercial or non commercial with endorsement for double trailers. Check the requirements for your state.

[notanlines]

Road dog, I think Michigan does, anybody else you know of?

[Theoldroaddog]

I live is Ca and they require the class A with enforcement and all axles shall have brakes.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by Theoldroaddog

Most states will require a license upgrade to a class A commercial or non commercial with endorsement for double trailers. Check the requirements for your state.

Originally Posted by notanlines

Road dog, I think Michigan does, anybody else you know of?

Michigan requires an endorsement. It's a "knowledge test only" and after successfully passing the test, pay your money for a new license and they'll add the endorsement. With the endorsement, you can tow a trailer behind a fifth wheel, total combined length of tow vehicle, fifth wheel and additional trailer is a maximum of 75'. There is a "wonkey requirement" with the second trailer safety chains. They must be crossed under the tongue AND secured to the extreme outer edge of the fifth wheel. In other words, the safety chains must be secured to the outside edge of the "towing fifth wheel" not to the receiver centerline.

[notanlines]

Originally Posted by Theoldroaddog

I live is Ca and they require the class A with enforcement and all axles shall have brakes.

I don't believe triple towing is an entirely common activity in California.
"Brakes
All trailers exceeding 1,500 lbs. must have their own brakes. Any vehicle towing a trailer weighing more than 1,500 lbs. must be fitted such that the brake system can be connected appropriately."

Not many utility trailers hauling toys have brakes. Just hard to comply with that.

[JRTJH]

Jim,

We just returned from a 6000 mile trip that found us in Las Vegas for 2 weeks. We did make a trip (without the fifth wheel) to Edwards AFB, in Lancaster, CA. I wouldn't have even considered towing the Cougar and the Slingshot beyond the Nevada state line. While California does provide for towing two trailers, some of the "agenda items" they tack onto the requirements make it difficult to tow a rig that's legal in most states west of the eastern seaboard into California without violating some form of "their requirements"... So, for us, we just took the Slingshot for an overnight trip to visit NASA and some of my old co-workers from the skunk works in Palmdale.

[Laredo Tugger]

Double pull with a bumper pull TH?
Why do you need to double pull with any TH,isn't that the reason you bought a "toy hauler"?
Something doesn't add up here.
RMc

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by Laredo Tugger

Double pull with a bumper pull TH?
Why do you need to double pull with any TH,isn't that the reason you bought a "toy hauler"?
Something doesn't add up here.
RMc

Maybe one reason would be, "Buy a bumper pull TH when the kids are 3, 5 years later, they're 8 and want their own ATV or dirt bike?" Another might be: "we are a big family and the garage isn't big enough for one toy for each of us." Another might be: "We like to ride on dirt and water, but lifting jet skis out of the toy hauler is difficult, so we put the dirt bikes and ATV's in the TH and tow the jet ski's behind the TH.

[BadmanRick]

Most states do not allow double pull so check with the states you will be traveling in to see if it’s allowed.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by BadmanRick

Most states do not allow double pull so check with the states you will be traveling in to see if it’s allowed.

Richard,

I suppose it depends on your definition of "most states". Every state west of the Mississippi (except Oregon and Washington) allows double towing with a fifth wheel and some allow double towing with a travel trailer. East of the Mississippi, all states except the "eastern seaboard" allow double towing with a fifth wheel. So, the majority of states allow some form of double towing as opposed to "most do not allow"...... Florida doesn't "allow double towing" but if you ask those members who regularly double tow into and out of Florida, they'll tell you that they have not yet been stopped. That may not be the situation for "Florida licensed rigs" but the tourist dollar does speak loudly in what Florida LEO's turn their head to "not see".....

[notanlines]

As a side note, Bulletowner made the statement "if you're coming from a state where it is legal you can come into OR and go directly to your destination and back."
I am of the opinion that this is not true. Oregon state statutes are not friendly to Oregonians NOR to out-of-staters double/triple towing on their highways.
If Brenda and I get stopped in a state which doesn't allow the triple tow then I simply back the bike off the trailer, hook it behind the bike/sidecar rig and tow on down to the next truck stop and wait for nightfall and then sneak out of town. (Yes, the bike is wired to tow a trailer)
Most triple-towing can't pull that off.

[Ken / Claudia]

Its not legal to double tow into Oregon unless it's a comm. vehicle. Rvs do not nor cannot comply with the law if you read through the whole thing. Yes some come through, many seen near the CA/OR border. Is the officer you pass by going to stop and cite you? Most traffic cops will, it's their job.
It was a proposed Oregon law with restrictions about 15 years ago. It did not get to the floor for a vote. I beleive the law was not opposed by OSP but never confirmed that. I never heard the reasons why it was opposed in committee.

[BadmanRick]

Thanks for the update. Most of our towing is east of the Mississippi. I’m from Florida and it is not allowed.