New Generator Install

[chuckster57]

Check federal laws regarding the fuel tank. To my knowledge, it CANNOT be “sealed” under the coroplast. It must be open to the air.

[MunizTravels]

Does anyone have any recommendations in Fort Lauderdale / Pompano area for someone to help me with the install of the Generator my guy has seems to disappeared.

Man RV repair guys are so unreliable!

[chuckster57]

RV repair guys are so unreliable

What? Not all of us. You might want to rethink that statement.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by MunizTravels

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Man RV repair guys are so unreliable!

Originally Posted by chuckster57

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What? Not all of us. You might want to rethink that statement.

Yeah... There are thousands of "RV repair guys" at work today, solving owner issues, listening to people "gripe about other repair guys" and helping keep RV's on the road and working properly.

[Mongoose9400]

1 gallon of propane = 4.2 lbs.

20 lb bottle = 4.7 gallons
30 lb bottle = 7.1 gallons
40 lb bottle = 9.5 gallons

Onan 5500:
No Load = 0.3-0.4 gallon/hour
Half Load = 0.6-0.8 gallon/hour
Full Load = 0.9-1.1 gallon/hour

With our gasoline generator I plan on burning 1 gallon of gasoline for every hour of runtime because of two 15k a/c's running.

Genertaor

[AbHDToyHauler]

Originally Posted by Mongoose9400

1 gallon of propane = 4.2 lbs.

20 lb bottle = 4.7 gallons
30 lb bottle = 7.1 gallons
40 lb bottle = 9.5 gallons

Onan 5500:
No Load = 0.3-0.4 gallon/hour
Half Load = 0.6-0.8 gallon/hour
Full Load = 0.9-1.1 gallon/hour

With our gasoline generator I plan on burning 1 gallon of gasoline for every hour of runtime because of two 15k a/c's running.

Genertaor

Also mine has a 30 gal aux tank that you can fill and pump from aux tank into the generator tank as needed so you have much higher capacity. At least with Jerry cans you can go get fuel at any station without waiting on someone to fill your propane bottles. To each their own though.

[chuckster57]

A toy hauler is designed with fuel tank(s) and a pump. An alpine isn’t, OP wants to install a fuel tank to run a gen.

[ChuckS]

Not much room left under neath Alpine colorplast for any fuel tank. Propane would be the only way

[MunizTravels]

First if I insulted any reputable RV repair men out there it was not my intention. My personal experience has not been very good. I work in a data center on servers when a customer calls with problems we can't just say oh well we have to fix it. which only have the weekends to get things done. So I hired someone to do my solar install he never showed up on day one then called 3 days later said he couldn't do it.

Then I hired a person to fix my fantastic air not opening or coming on he said the wires were running through the ceiling and he couldn't fix that without tearing the ceiling down. My wife and I tested each wire found that all but one had power must be the electronic board. Ordered a MaxxAir wireless fan which only needs power problem solved. So i told this repair guy since your at the RV I'm putting in a King bed can you cut the wood at these measurements even with a helper my wife had to hold the wood because the helper was sitting in the truck in the A/C LMAO

Now I'm at the Generator install, I wanted a LP generator because tanks are already there but the installer that was doing the install with me said no way gas is better we have a guy that can build us a custom tank somewhere under the Alpine. So I ordered a gas Generator which is in my living room right now. Well after he didn't return my calls on Saturday or Monday I called Palm Beach RV who recommended this guy to recommend someone else and the installer finally calls but he says that he was looking under another Alpine and there's no place for a fuel tank we need to put the tank in the basement behind the wall where all the electronics are and that will be fine. 20 gallon tank.

I'm angry to say the least and to top it all off Norwall says its not worth the money to send back and exchange for LP.

Any advice would be really appreciated because I'm disgusted at this point.

[notanlines]

Go on with the gas install and stick with 2 portable standard boat fuel tanks. Alot less grief.

[chuckster57]

Wow you have been burnt by some lousy people.

Not worth the money to exchange gens?? Sounds fishy to me. If they are that adamant, sell it and buy the LP gen.

[chuckster57]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Go on with the gas install and stick with 2 portable standard boat fuel tanks. Alot less grief.

I wouldn’t ever use/ store gasoline in an enclosed area. Your asking for a free trip to Mars.

[Racebug]

I would think you could upgrade your gen to an LP fuel. I imagine the only difference is it has a gas injector in the intake runner. I have switched a good handful of cars/trucks to run on natural gas successfully, not much different.

[AbHDToyHauler]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Go on with the gas install and stick with 2 portable standard boat fuel tanks. Alot less grief.

That's a pretty good idea , I think? Chuckster is right and I don't know what's under an Alpine. I only know my toyhauler so thought there might be room under the trailer. Could you go with notanlines idea and add a small fuel tank in the box of truck (like they do for diesel) so you could easily pickup more fuel and refill your portable tanks?

[MunizTravels]

Hi Guy's

It's taken all day of going back and forth with Norwall where i bought the Generator they were great by the way. I'm sending it back it's too hard to convert to LP. It cost me $300 to ship back and I'm happy it's over. Now for the rest of the story I ordered another one LP only to a RV dealership in Fort Pierce, FL. They will be installing it starting Wednesday, permitting it arrives in time.

The dealership is aware of all the issues i've had with the installation and having to return the gas one and I believe they are giving me a good price considering they have to move my Inverter, MPPT controller and the batteries over to fit the Generator.

Questions: I really don't want to complicate things but I'm installing the remote start in the RV for the Generator and was wondering if the InCommand can also be hooked up and should I? I see they have something on the panel for Generators just wondering that way i can start the Gen set 30 min before we arrive at our next destination from the truck while driving to cool off the RV?

Armando

[cookinwitdiesel]

I think the 7000w model is same size and nearly same weight, maybe a better option?

[fjr vfr]

Are you planning to follow the hot weather everywhere? Just asking.
Most of the full timers I meet, (we're half timers ) travel around to the sweat spots and avoid hot and cold weather.
We hardly ever use our ac. When it starts getting hot we move.
Just asking.

[chuckster57]

We sell units with one control not in command so I don’t know, but all the toy haulers with one control are part of that system. One control is an LCI system with an app too.

I have enough knowledge to say that it can be added to the one control so I bet it can be integrated into the in command system, you just have to know what wires go where and what programming to do.

I hope your install goes a whole lot better than what’s happened so far. Let us know the results.

[MunizTravels]

Thanks for all your help!

Hopefully in a week or so I should have pictures of the completed installation.

[Morkleb]

I have Fuzion 385 toyhauler, that came with the 5500 watt Onan evap gas generator factory installed. It has a 30 gal fuel tank. We were out camping, for the weekend and ran the gen from about 6:30 pm thru 10:00 am for two days and did not go under the one third tank mark. ( system has silly 1/3, 2/3, full gages, and not measured in quarters ). The gen was running all lights, fridge, water heater, and two a/c units. I don’t know what the install/fabrication cost to put one in ........ but running off gas was very economical.

The gas tanks are in the rear of the trailer, under the garage area. It is also hooked up to the “In-Command” control center.