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Old 01-10-2019, 12:25 PM   #21
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I recently purchased and installed a 5th wheel hitch lock for my trailer
it is more for my piece of mind, but then the storage lot where mine is
stored has camera's and a heavy duty electronic gate. But then I also
have insurance.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:08 PM   #22
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When your in the business of arresting bad guys and taking reports of crime. You realize a big factor still today is unlocked doors and windows. Homes get hit a lot more than get broken into. Because someone living there did not secure it. A lot more homes without security or alarms get hit then with them. A lot more vehicles get stolen without a simple thing like a club on the steering wheel or with a alarm or anti theft devices. A lot more vehicles have someone getting inside them at night to steal the contents than ones that are simply locked. Cops see a pattern in theft. I will make a bet this is nation wide. Locks/alarms/anti theft devices do deter more crime than without. Why? because there is always a easier/ faster way or item down the street or across the parking lot without those. When those facts are not true, there is normally a reason. The thieve knows or suspects it is worth the trouble to take extra steps to get whatever they want. No lock or security can keep everyone out, but it sure helps keep most out.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:37 AM   #23
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I've done a lot of research recently into padlocks. I was looking for one that could not be picked. Master lock is the easiest to pick. No matter what the price is. Your US Marshall friend was out of practice. According to the youtubes that I watched, Master usually takes 5 seconds or less. The padlocks built under government and military specs can also be picked, but take a few seconds longer. PUC locks can also be picked. The long story short is that all padlocks can be picked. Even the very expensive ones with pickles technology. It just takes a few seconds longer.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:20 AM   #24
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When I was a lad... oh never mind, all the good yarns have already been spun.... OK SOMEBODY is swiping trailers... not many but some:

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:42 AM   #25
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WHITMW: Fortunately in my area there just doesn't seem to be a problem. We RV mostly at dog shows around the country and Dog Show people are, by-and-large, a small group and we have heard of almost no thefts in our 15 years of doing this. That being said I recently bought a electronic surge/undercurrent monitor and per the list suggestions have also procured a bicycle lock to fasten it to the power post when I use it. But glad to say that in my experience, (and unlike Ken of Ken/Claudia I have never had to deal with the lowest elements on a daily basis. Was glad to read Ken say he wasn't in the Sate Patrol anymore so hopefully is much safer now. Give thanks everyday there are some people who WANT to do that job.) most people are honest and treat others as they would want to be treated. Of course I am always traveling with at least 5 German Shepherds so maybe that colors my response?

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Old 01-11-2019, 11:14 AM   #26
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... A lot more vehicles get stolen without a simple thing like a club on the steering wheel or with a alarm or anti theft devices. ...
I thought the "new" keys with the RFID-like chip in them (an actual key versus the wireless fob things used in Prius and such) were required for the vehicle to recognize the key and could not be hardwired. Am I incorrect in this assumption?

I lock the vehicles, but if broken into I thought it would only be smash and grab, versus drive off with the vehicle.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:29 PM   #27
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Your right about the new style keys, that actually started due to corvette theft.
At one point more of them were stolen than not. In the worst areas it was said park your corvette on the street and walk backward away, you will see who steals it. GM came up with a chip embedded into the key and over night that crime was almost done away with. Auto makers have improved on the keys and even now of course keyless autos. The thieves changed their tactics now 1 in 7 stolen vehicles is stolen with it's keys in it. As in left unlocked warming up in driveway or at 7-11 park lots as the owner goes inside for coffee. Car jacking numbers have also increased because the difficult means to steal a locked/parked vehicle. The usual break in and steal a car is mainly now limited to older ones without chips etc.
The cars that remote start without a key are pretty safe, if it is made to not move until that key with chip is put into the ignition. I own one and believe it's fool proof until the bad guy gets the key. Someday that could change.
Auto makers name these chip or keyless ignitions as a anti theft device.
Yes a few still get stolen, but it goes back to my statement about the time and energy and why the theft. We were stumped with some thefts of high dollar cars and found that the common thing was all stolen at night in large apt. building parking lots. Places people commonly see tow trucks towing away cars. That's how it was being done. I will not say how they defeated the alarms. Those cars got placed into shipping containers and ended up in Russia. Working with customs we ended that here at the time.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:33 AM   #28
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Iíll expand to theft ďaroundĒ my RV.

In the summer we will get a spot in a FS campground and drive back and forth to work during the week. I would let stuff sit out, I bought a good cable lock for the yami gen. Came back one afternoon and cable was cut clean, someone must have scared them off as the gen was still there. So everything is chained with high dollar USA chain. I use American brand padlock, I guess I hope the local thieves are just dumb tweekers who are shaking hard cause they need their fix.

I cannot leave a single thing in my boat overnight on the beach or in the parking lots. Theft is horrible at local lakes. Iíve had very uncomfortable conversations with guys that had to be straight out of deliverance while putting stuff away at boat ramps. ( sorry Ken Iíve almost put the 30/30 in my boat and thought to just move it around around from front to back of boat to let these guys know to stay away)

Long story short, if they want it, and you make it easy enough, they will find a way and get it.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:47 AM   #29
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I’ll expand to theft “around” my RV.
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Long story short, if they want it, and you make it easy enough, they will find a way and get it.
I don't think I'd leave "my stuff" unattended, outside my rig for several days while the trailer is not occupied. That's stretching the envelope far too long. In an "ideal world" it would work, but we live in a "not so ideal" reality. I'd suggest that leaving a generator "cabled or chained" in plain sight for a week at a time is very much the same as using a 3' "flasher" in front of the lures while trolling for salmon... That generator is like a "flashing beacon" screaming "TAKE ME" !!!

I'd suggest, at a minimum, taking everything that's out side and putting it inside or taking it with you when you leave for the week. I live in a rural area where everyone who lives around here is "honest" and we have few "outsiders" drive down our road, but even with that "assurance", I would never leave my lawn mower in the front yard or leave my ATV (with or without keys) parked in the driveway and head "downstate for the week".....

I'd urge you to remove the temptation of all that "flashing stuff" at your campsite, and don't expect a USA made chain to be "cut proof"... They'll cut the plastic carrying handle on the generator and take it anyway. It'll still be worth enough for a "fix or two".....
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:30 AM   #30
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I'd urge you to remove the temptation of all that "flashing stuff" at your campsite, and don't expect a USA made chain to be "cut proof"... They'll cut the plastic carrying handle on the generator and take it anyway. It'll still be worth enough for a "fix or two".....[/QUOTE]

Yes, I already put all my stuff away, the point I was making that I do now. Even during the day if I’m not in my camp site, it’s away.

Should have mentioned that we are driving back and forth. Spending the night at the campground and leaving early for work. The 1.5 hour commute each is way more than set off by the sound of silence and the sight of stars.

Sorry I was not clear on exactly how I was camping and commuting. No need to worry about my stuff, you can rest easy. Thanks much for your concern and insight.
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