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06-06-2018, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Auggie Waterman
Yeah looks like the pin is definitely behind your rear axle.
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You are correct by a total of 9". I could reduce this to only 1" of offset by rotating the pin block adapter. The dealer set this up when I purchased the camper. There is not any interference with the tailgate or bed rails currently. The camper pulls very well based on about 300 mile of towing so far. I intend to do some parking lot practice and will evaluate everything again.
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06-06-2018, 05:04 AM
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WOW! What caused this hitch failure?
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06-06-2018, 05:35 AM
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I posted the picture so I will respond the best I can. Some one posted a couple of pictures somewhere on the internet about a year ago and they stuck like glue. The best second hand information I found clams the failure occurred when turning into a parking lot. There were no other details provided. Will we, the consumers, ever find out the truth, I doubt it. Once the Insurance company filed suite against the hitch manufacture a gag order was part of the settlement. Do I know that this happened, No. but it usually does.
The intent of posting the picture was to say anything that man makes can and will fail. Do I think the Anderson Hitch is unsafe to use as designed, No.
I know these photos offend some loyal Anderson users, I am sorry for that. Again, my intent, was not to condemn Anderson as they make a unique hitch that solves many issues for us.
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06-06-2018, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank G
Once the Insurance company filed suite against the hitch manufacture a gag order was part of the settlement.
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WOW JUST WOW
Why would an insurance company get involved with a product failure that caused zero damage to any physical property other than the hitch itself in what you described as a parking lot failure?
Was the Rotoflex locked out, who knows it is all speculation, but the above is just crazy talk.
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06-06-2018, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kfxgreenie
WOW JUST WOW
Why would an insurance company get involved with a product failure that caused zero damage to any physical property other than the hitch itself in what you described as a parking lot failure?
Was the Rotoflex locked out, who knows it is all speculation, but the above is just crazy talk.
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It was speculation on my part that there was colleterial damage. You are speculating there was not. I am also not trying to analyze why or how the failure occurred, but it happened. I am not a lawyer and not trying to be one, but I have lived life and anytime there is a claim the insurance will pursue all avenues to minimize there looses. This is not crazy talk.
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06-06-2018, 01:18 PM
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I do believe Andersen instructions say not for use with flexing pin boxes now.
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06-07-2018, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank G
I posted the picture so I will respond the best I can. Some one posted a couple of pictures somewhere on the internet about a year ago and they stuck like glue. The best second hand information I found clams the failure occurred when turning into a parking lot. There were no other details provided. Will we, the consumers, ever find out the truth, I doubt it. Once the Insurance company filed suite against the hitch manufacture a gag order was part of the settlement. Do I know that this happened, No. but it usually does.
The intent of posting the picture was to say anything that man makes can and will fail. Do I think the Anderson Hitch is unsafe to use as designed, No.
I know these photos offend some loyal Anderson users, I am sorry for that. Again, my intent, was not to condemn Anderson as they make a unique hitch that solves many issues for us.
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Thanks for the clarification Frank. I am a fanboy of the Andersen hitch only from my experience so far with actual use of the product. I did a lot of research before purchasing the hitch and selected the product that I felt would work best for me.
All that said, if I find reasons to suspect an issue with the product, either through personal experience or documented examples, then my fanboy status would absolutely change. I have had enough experience with selecting products/components to know that even products from a previously demonstrated quality manufacture could have defects or a badly designed model. I'm not affiliated with Andersen and this is the first product that I have purchased from them. I hope to have many years of trouble free use of the Andersen Ultimate hitch. If not, I'll document and share my experience with this forum as I have learned a lot from others on here who have shared.
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06-07-2018, 02:50 PM
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I can go to almost 90 with a 6'4" short box Dodge.
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06-07-2018, 04:47 PM
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I pick up the camper Saturday so we shall see how it goes.
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06-07-2018, 05:21 PM
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Tech, "I can go to almost 90 with a 6'4" short box Dodge" I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are a long, long ways from 90 degrees and the cab is a few inches from your RV. Draw two lines on the ground and find a twelve year old that knows how to use a protractor (impossible) and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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06-07-2018, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by notanlines
Tech, "I can go to almost 90 with a 6'4" short box Dodge" I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are a long, long ways from 90 degrees and the cab is a few inches from your RV. Draw two lines on the ground and find a twelve year old that knows how to use a protractor (impossible) and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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I agree, looks more like 60 to 70 degrees.
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06-08-2018, 03:37 AM
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I make my living drawing angles... that's as close to 90` as I am to 90 years old... and I was born in 1949..
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06-17-2018, 01:28 PM
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Kingpin is just a bit behind axel center
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06-18-2018, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RBCCONT
I have Firestone airbags to help with the squat.I pull a lot of construction equipment around
The sticker on the door says 3200 .Was told the pin weight on 325 is 1950. But hopfully loaded should be no more than 2400?
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Man wish my F250 Short has a 3200 payload sticker. Mines no where close.
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07-09-2018, 08:24 AM
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Close enough for me.still had a few inches between the cab and front
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08-06-2018, 09:32 AM
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I got a chance to take the pic from another angle. It’s not 90 but still tight for a short bed.
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08-06-2018, 10:26 AM
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close enuf IMO. I have not seen anyone out measuring with protractors.
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