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11-01-2018, 08:45 AM
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In addition to the "heat source under plastic couplings" issue on the newer 1750RD models, I find it odd that they didn't add an outside door for the new storage under the dinette seat where the tank is on the 2017. Extra cost I suppose, but it seems kind of inconvenient to disassemble half the dinette area to get at the storage compartment.
The tank on the 2018 must be in the middle of the trailer under the bed since the hot water heater appears to be in the same place. On the 2017 1750RD, the storage under the bed is difficult to get into anyway without propping the mattress on your head or installing a pull-out drawer system of some sort.
That said, you've gotta love the big back windows in a little trailer like that. We had ours backed up to a drop off overlooking Lake Superior this summer watching the ore ships come in and out of Two Harbors. It has been just the right size for the two of us and we can squeeze it into just about any spot available.
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11-01-2018, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjrelander
In addition to the "heat source under plastic couplings" issue on the newer 1750RD models, I find it odd that they didn't add an outside door for the new storage under the dinette seat where the tank is on the 2017. Extra cost I suppose, but it seems kind of inconvenient to disassemble half the dinette area to get at the storage compartment.
The tank on the 2018 must be in the middle of the trailer under the bed since the hot water heater appears to be in the same place. On the 2017 1750RD, the storage under the bed is difficult to get into anyway without propping the mattress on your head or installing a pull-out drawer system of some sort.
That said, you've gotta love the big back windows in a little trailer like that. We had ours backed up to a drop off overlooking Lake Superior this summer watching the ore ships come in and out of Two Harbors. It has been just the right size for the two of us and we can squeeze it into just about any spot available.
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Yes the tank is under the bed, lots of lost space there. It is a bit annoying to have to remove the cushions and the plywood if we want to get into the storage, but it's not the end of the world.
The back windows are the reason we bought this. We LOVE them for the time we've spent in them and are planning some trips where we know we'd back into some awesome views.
We just need to get this stupid water heater issue figured out.
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11-01-2018, 09:51 AM
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Location: Bainbridge NY
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Gotta love the back window. 
In mine under dinette the back middle storage space I use for hardly used items, bed set and pillows for dinette bed and stuff I didn't use in couple years but might need. as there's no access from outside.
gotta shift the cushions around anyway when using bed.
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11-01-2018, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fourfourto
Gotta love the back window. 
In mine under dinette the back middle storage space I use for hardly used items, bed set and pillows for dinette bed and stuff I didn't use in couple years but might need. as there's no access from outside.
gotta shift the cushions around anyway when using bed.
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The back middle under the table is actually open to the front. It's not enclosed or only accessible by lifting cushions. We just slide stuff under the table and shove it on back. Well, that's the plan at least we don't have it quite figured out but we do know what dimensions we have for storage there.
Where is the tank located at on your model? Just curious what they changed and maybe try and figure out why. Other than to make my life suck because of a melting water inlet.
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11-01-2018, 11:55 AM
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There is a possibility that my earlier post was one of the ones that has been referred. I recently bought a Hideaway 178LHS, and noticed this same issue. I posted an open question about this and received no response. I am attaching two pics of my TT with the problem shown. I would appreciate objective response to this also. Thanks in advance.
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11-01-2018, 12:30 PM
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Location: Chaska MN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jacketslacker
Where is the tank located at on your model? Just curious what they changed and maybe try and figure out why. Other than to make my life suck because of a melting water inlet.
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On the 2017 1750RD, if you stand in the kitchen and look out the back window, the fresh water tank and water pump are under the right-hand dinette seat. The fresh water and city inlets are just below and to the front of the back side window on the driver side, kind of at the tip of the "swoop" decal in the picture below.
The port between the water inlets and the wheel is the 30 amp cable. The hot water heater cover below the front window doesn't have any bug screen (at least on ours), just a grid of stamped ventilation holes. Also, this is not actually a picture of our trailer. Our AC unit is side mounted instead of roof mounted and sits just in front of the rear widow.
Apparently, every trailer is a "special" little snowflake ...
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11-01-2018, 01:09 PM
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Location: Bainbridge NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjrelander
On the 2017 1750RD, if you stand in the kitchen and look out the back window, the fresh water tank and water pump are under the right-hand dinette seat. The fresh water and city inlets are just below and to the front of the back side window on the driver side, kind of at the tip of the "swoop" decal in the picture below.
The port between the water inlets and the wheel is the 30 amp cable. The hot water heater cover below the front window doesn't have any bug screen (at least on ours), just a grid of stamped ventilation holes. Also, this is not actually a picture of our trailer. Our AC unit is side mounted instead of roof mounted and sits just in front of the rear widow.
Apparently, every trailer is a "special" little snowflake ...
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Mine same as above
Also have the side A/C
good thing about that is you can run it off a ex cord at the house.
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11-02-2018, 05:27 AM
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Ours has the side AC as well. Do you find it doesn't really get the front area all that cool as a result? We just figure we'll have to put a fan on the stove (when not in use of course) and blow air forward. Doesn't bother either of us really and we like the air movement just trying to see what all is out there.
I know that if the Keystone response is don't put a bug screen on the door, I'm having my metal fabricator friend build a heat shield/duct to bring the exhaust a few inches away and having it include a screen on it. I'll continue to hound Keystone until they admit I'm right and it's a serious design flaw but as an engineer I know we don't like being told we're wrong and only admit it when we know it won't end.
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11-02-2018, 06:12 AM
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I angled the vents toward the front ,put it on high if needed.
almost always leave it on low .A fan is a good idea maybe a clip on type attached to stove vent ?
Usually don't need it a night,if you do at least it's far enough away that you don't hear it.
Also read that there's less stress on roof without the added weight.
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11-02-2018, 04:43 PM
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Location: Chaska MN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jacketslacker
Ours has the side AC as well. Do you find it doesn't really get the front area all that cool as a result? We just figure we'll have to put a fan on the stove (when not in use of course) and blow air forward. Doesn't bother either of us really and we like the air movement just trying to see what all is out there.
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Yup. Air flow is definitely an issue with no duct work and the bathroom sitting in the middle of the trailer. On our first trip we found an oscillating fan at the nearest hardware store. We put it on the counter by the door to move the air around. Seems to work okay.
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