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Old 02-25-2017, 04:34 AM   #1
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Alpine vs montana buyers guide?

We currently have a forest river sandpiper 5th wheel.
We are looking at both the alpine which my wife is set on and the montanas.

Were currently not happy with the build of the sandpiper and looking to step up some and was looking at both keystone products.

It seems these are rated for 4 seasons living which is what we would be doing almost. We normally camp around christmas so it can get pretty cold and also camp 4th of july which can get upwards of 95.
Here in Nc we have pretty rough humidity.

Our camper now we cant stay warm in a roughly 30 degree night.

How will the keystones compare? Are they lacking in a/c and heat like the sandpiper is?

I have noticed theres only 4 vents for the ac which was a problem in our sandpiper. Which i have added the third ac too.




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Old 02-25-2017, 04:52 AM   #2
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The Alpine and Montana are going to compare very closely with each other.

We love our Alpine and the dual zone system. We have camped in both hot and cold. We don't have any problem keeping it comfortable in either. We can keep it comfortable down to around 30 degree outside temps with just the heat pump and fireplace. When it starts getting colder than that, the furnace is needed, which is good anyway because the furnace provides heat to the underbelly and all of the plumbing. Using the dual zone set to auto, the front AC will actually kick in from time to time to keep the bedroom area from getting too warm as the main living area is warmed to the set temp. I plan to add adjustable vents to the bedroom and bathroom so I can shut them off a bit, but haven't done that yet. We set it at 70 degrees for heating.

As for warm weather, we've been in the 90s and humid in MO, and the 90s and dry in AZ, never had a problem keeping it cool in either. We set it at 74 degrees for cooling.
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Old 02-25-2017, 04:54 AM   #3
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The Alpine and Montana are going to compare very closely with each other.



We love our Alpine and the dual zone system. We have camped in both hot and cold. We don't have any problem keeping it comfortable in either. We can keep it comfortable down to around 30 degree outside temps with just the heat pump and fireplace. When it starts getting colder than that, the furnace is needed, which is good anyway because the furnace provides heat to the underbelly and all of the plumbing. Using the dual zone set to auto, the front AC will actually kick in from time to time to keep the bedroom area from getting too warm as the main living area is warmed to the set temp. I plan to add adjustable vents to the bedroom and bathroom so I can shut them off a bit, but haven't done that yet. We set it at 70 degrees for heating.



As for warm weather, we've been in the 90s and humid in MO, and the 90s and dry in AZ, never had a problem keeping it cool in either. We set it at 74 degrees for cooling.


Awesome! Thats good to hear!
What model year is your alpine?

Does it have one heat pump or is both a heatpump?
From my understanding only one is?
I thought the heatpump cut off at 38 degrees? Hopefully they changed that and sounds like they did.




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Old 02-25-2017, 05:20 AM   #4
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We went to a dealer to purchase a Montana and left with an Alpine. We love it.
But then you need to get what is best for you. In your case in may be the Alpine since that is what your wife likes.
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:47 AM   #5
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We picked our Alpine 3401 up yesterday and the pre-delivery inspection was close to perfect. Only 1 very minor issue. Compared to a previous experience on a class b motor home, the Alpine's readiness was very impressive. Also, I had a 15 page inspection list that I didn't really need. That's how thorough our dealer was


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We picked our Alpine 3401 up yesterday and the pre-delivery inspection was close to perfect. Only 1 very minor issue. Compared to a previous experience on a class b motor home, the Alpine's readiness was very impressive. Also, I had a 15 page inspection list that I didn't really need. That's how thorough our dealer was


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Love our alpine no problems keeping cool and have camped in low teens no problem with heating.
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We have a 2014 Alpine 3010RE and are very satisfied. A few minor issues, mostly cosmetic. I'd buy another Alpine

Some items to ask about....
.. cracks around front slide out edge
.. roof, some have had issues with roof tearing off starting right at front cap
.. tires... I would not buy without upgraded 14 ply tires and all metal valve stems
.. suspension... look at the lubrication fittings and verify fresh fresh at each point
.. a few folks are experiencing issues with the Lippert suspension shackle bolts,bushings
.. mine came with all Dexter so I have not had that issue yet
.. batteries... I would not accept if they only install 1 battery. It's not enough power.. I'd upgrade and insist on two 6 volt golf cart batteries



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We have a 2014 Alpine 3010RE and are very satisfied. A few minor issues, mostly cosmetic. I'd buy another Alpine

Some items to ask about....
.. cracks around front slide out edge
.. roof, some have had issues with roof tearing off starting right at front cap
.. tires... I would not buy without upgraded 14 ply tires and all metal valve stems
.. suspension... look at the lubrication fittings and verify fresh fresh at each point
.. a few folks are experiencing issues with the Lippert suspension shackle bolts,bushings
.. mine came with all Dexter so I have not had that issue yet
.. batteries... I would not accept if they only install 1 battery. It's not enough power.. I'd upgrade and insist on two 6 volt golf cart batteries



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And if the dealer you are working with says he hasn't heard of any of these issues he is either stupid or lying to you. These issues are all over the internet with pictures


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Awesome! Thats good to hear!
What model year is your alpine?

Does it have one heat pump or is both a heatpump?
From my understanding only one is?
I thought the heatpump cut off at 38 degrees? Hopefully they changed that and sounds like they did.




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Just one heat pump. Don't know anything about the heat pump cutting off at 38 degrees. It may do that. Keep in mind that when the temps drop to low 30s, it's typically at the last couple hours of the night just before dawn. If your camper is already heated, even if the heat pump shuts down, the fireplace will continue to heat and it's probably enough to maintain for a couple hours.
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