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Old 05-17-2018, 06:31 PM   #1
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6 Point Level Up Auto. Retract

Question about the Auto retract feature. The way I understand it is that you press right and left for the RV to return to the hitching height. Do you have to manually raise the rear jacks prior to pressing right/left? If not doesn't that put a lot of pressure on the rear jacks when the front has to rise?
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:37 PM   #2
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If you use the “hitch height” or “auto reconnect” feature, the rear jacks will retract THEN the front jacks will return to the height they were when you started the “Auto Level” function.
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:56 PM   #3
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Thanks. Didn't want to get things "jacked up" on the new 5er.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:00 PM   #4
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Be aware that after unhitching, auto leveling if you do any manual adjustments after this point it will not go back to memory hitch height.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:52 AM   #5
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Also, if the starting position is not high on front, it will tell you the function is disabled when you try.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:12 AM   #6
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Thumbs up Remember how to use the Auto leveling system

I have to add, Keystone put the instructions on how to use the Auto-Leveling system right there in the storage area of our fifthwheel, across from the control buttons. Not using it for 2 weeks at a time does make it hard to remember the steps for leveling and hooking back up, even though it is not complex.

We really like the auto leveling feature, and it works well.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:27 AM   #7
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If you use the “hitch height” or “auto reconnect” feature, the rear jacks will retract THEN the front jacks will return to the height they were when you started the “Auto Level” function.
The 6 point level up does not work that way on my 2013 Raptor 300mp. If I select the left & right for this "hitch height" feature it returns to hitch height, but does not retract the rear jacks. In addition the hitch height feature only works if the nose dips below level during the auto level procedure, if it does not, the feature will be disabled. This is backed up by the 6 point level up users guide instructions on page 5.

https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...ers_Manual.pdf
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:35 AM   #8
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The 6 point level up does not work that way on my 2013 Raptor 300mp. If I select the left & right for this "hitch height" feature it returns to hitch height, but does not retract the rear jacks. In addition the hitch height feature only works if the nose dips below level during the auto level procedure, if it does not, the feature will be disabled. This is backed up by the 6 point level up users guide instructions on page 5.

https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...ers_Manual.pdf

Same on my 2016 Alpine. I've tried this a few times and just doesn't work properly, so stopped trying to use it. Auto-retract however is pretty handy. You don't have to stand there and get the rear legs all the way up before hitching up. Once you get the 5er hitched, select the auto-retract feature and it will retract all of the legs for you.
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So if you turn the system ON and then use the scroll feature to the left of the screen, it wont show "auto reconnect" or "hitch height"?
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:39 PM   #10
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Mine works as described by DMK! Right & Left buttons...returns to hitch height... rear jacks remain extended. If this causes excessive stress on the rear jacks it has not become apparent as every thing operates properly. Knock on wood!
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So I have to ask: if you turn the system on, can you use the up/down arrows just to the left of the LCD screen to scroll to auto reconnect or hitch height?

There are a couple of variations to the 6 point Level up pad. I was going by the one described in the link DMK posted. The pad that is used in 6 point level up with LCI “one control”.
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So if you turn the system ON and then use the scroll feature to the left of the screen, it wont show "auto reconnect" or "hitch height"?
No it does not, I have linked to the online users manual above and mine works the way it is outlined in the users guide page 5. However mine does not have one control, that may be different...
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:14 PM   #13
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6 Point Level Up Auto. Retract

Interesting. I’ll have to ask Lippert about that. I wonder if the “software” is different from one manufacturer (keystone) to another (Grand Design). Even without One control, the auto reconnect is an option you can scroll to.

Just one more change us techs need to know about.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:30 AM   #14
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I prefer to manually retract my four rear legs and then raise or lower LG to hitch .. I tried the auto hitch feature and
Don’t like the idea of rear legs being down if front needs to lift for rehitch height .. auto Ievel works great

Also mine has no auto hitch selection in menu. Have to use left and right arrows.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:45 AM   #15
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The first thing I do when getting ready to hitch is to turn system on, then press both left and right buttons at the same time and the rig moves to nose-up attitude as it was when first unhooked. All jacks work together; the fronts extend and the rears retract slightly. Back the truck under the rig and stop where the king-pin is about a foot from the hitch. Lower the rig so the king pin will slide up onto the hitch as I back into it. Been doing it this way for 5 years w/o a problem.
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:51 AM   #16
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Ours is an add on Lippert. Added to a 2011 Alpine in 2014. All jack stay put as it pushes the nose up to hitch level. Then auto retract them all.

Those worried about the jacks in rear being down need not. The small jacks in the middle and rear are rated at 7500 pounds each. No way even the heaviest of trailers has that much fulcrum weight when the front raises a bit. Had a Lippert rep come to replace 4 bad lifts of the 6 (one front and 3 rear and middle. He lifted our 16,500 pound trailer off the ground while testing. SO, even though Lippert says not to use them for changing tires I have also done that since then although still attached to the truck so not near the weight of whole trailer.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:51 AM   #17
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"I prefer to manually retract my four rear legs and then raise or lower LG to hitch .. I tried the auto hitch feature and don’t like the idea of rear legs being down if front needs to lift for re-hitch height"

I have been doing mine the same way - probably out of habit from hooking up RVs (fifth wheels, travel trailers and popups) for years...but also because I am not sure at what point you are supposed to press "left/right" buttons to remember the height position.

I still unhook "old-school" way. I pull into a site, chock the wheels, pull the hitch jaw lever, and manually run the front legs down until kingpin moves slightly - then drive the truck forward out and away from the unit...then push "autolevel" and let it go to town! Should I push "left/right" first before pushing "autolevel" (so that it remembers the height off of the truck)? I figured I would catch somebody setting up in a campground someday and start asking questions, and just keep doing it old-school until I got new-schooled.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:14 AM   #18
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Here is another thought when using the leg jack system. The manuf recommends that you dont hook up to Elect before using jacks. There has been problems with stray currents knocking out the control panels. When yo take a camper in for repair... Ask the dealer if they have surge protection on their Equip. . Otherwise you might be looking for a new TV, Frig repair, and a Microwave. Ig
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:05 PM   #19
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If electronics get fried while in for service that's on their insurance & be sure to check everything they were "supposed" to fix along with everything else BEFORE leaving their lot.
I have a surge protector/EMS that's connected EVERY time I plug in.
Anyone buying a rv SHOULD get one & in my opinion they should come as standard equipment on EVERY rv sold. If you buy a new rv & your dealer starts giving all the cheap water hoses, sewer hoses, the worthless water "restrictor", tell them you'd rather have the surge protector/EMS instead, you can go to Wal-Mart & buy as good or better of the other stuff.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:41 PM   #20
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Mikendebbie, your disconnect process is spot on. After auto level, as long as you do not restart or do any manual changes, the next time you power up, hit left/right at the same time and it should return to hitch height. Back up to pin, readjust height to slightly pick up trailer when you back under. Lock up pin and auto retract.
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