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Old 06-08-2019, 04:14 PM   #41
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Awesome, congrats!
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:30 PM   #42
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Thanks! Now I'm looking for a Ford F350!
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:10 PM   #43
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I have put 86k miles on my 2016 f350 lariat ultimate without a problem. Best looking f350 built. Now pulling a 2019 3761 FL. Great setup. My wife has listened to the campfire hype and decided we had to have a dually. I'll have tears when I put it up for sale next month when the new truck arrives. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. I'm sure the 350 dually will be fine but I never wanted one or a long bed. After a year of her talking I finally gave in and ordered.
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:21 AM   #44
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Let me get this straight: " My wife has listened to the campfire hype and decided we had to have a dually." Holy shmolly, now there's a keeper! I'll bet not a one of us our here have ever heard that where a TV was involved...Our last boat, yes, but the F450 took a little doing.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:59 AM   #45
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[emoji23]. Now she wants me to sell the boat! Took over a year on the dually and will take much longer on the boat!
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:59 AM   #46
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Just curious!
Still towing the New Horizons with the F450?
Even the DRV was close to max tow weight & max pin weight for the F450 & suspect the NH is heavier.
So are you upgrading to a MDT?
Yes, the 2016 Ford F450 is MDT. It is a dually long bed supercab. Actually, the fifth wheel ratings given by Ford are based on the Ford Reese fifth wheel hitch which has a lower rating than the F450 itself. The gooseneck rating is 31,000 pounds. I have a Comfort Ride hitch rated for 30,000 pounds. The NH is within the spec ratings of the F450.

I pulled my Alpine and DRV with a 2010 F350 dually, long bed, supercab. I realize not everyone likes a dually, but for the past 9 years, the dually has been the primary transportation. I've driven it everywhere, except for one tunnel in the Black Hills that was 8'2" wide. The F350/F450 hips are 8'4".

The important thing is not "can the truck pull the RV". It is important that the RV falls below maximum rating of the truck. Some say it should be only 80% of the max rating. Another problem is "stopping". Sure, you may be on the maximum of the truck or even a little above, but when it comes stopping safely . . . can you? It is important to think about. Yes, the RV has brakes, but stopping involves both the truck and the RV. (On my NH, I upgraded to 3 8K Morryde IS "axles" and 17.5" wheels with disc brakes and Load Rated J Michelin tires. I can stop!)

Penra - there are a lot of Montanas on the road. You should be pleased with your purchase and have many miles of adventure! Hopefully, we will meet on the road. Happy Travels!

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Old 06-09-2019, 11:16 AM   #47
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The 450 has a higher rating on weight to pull but the 350 has a higher payload with the 14k package. Still the 450 has a better turning radius and larger brakes. Other than that they are about the same truck. Verify on the 2019 brochure.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:36 PM   #48
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I have put 86k miles on my 2016 f350 lariat ultimate without a problem. Best looking f350 built. Now pulling a 2019 3761 FL. Great setup. My wife has listened to the campfire hype and decided we had to have a dually. I'll have tears when I put it up for sale next month when the new truck arrives. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. I'm sure the 350 dually will be fine but I never wanted one or a long bed. After a year of her talking I finally gave in and ordered.
Will you be posting that 'FOR SALE' here first for your good pals?
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:47 PM   #49
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Have to keep it until the new truck arrives. If no certain deal I'll trade. Best looking truck I've seen in years. All may maintenance done at dealer. I have the clear title.
Interested?
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:55 AM   #50
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I don't think you'd be interested in a DRV--mobile suites. you need a F450 or bigger...



heartland has some nice products too.



All 5th wheels are basically the same, it just depends on what you like and where you will be going. 'well insulated' is a joke in the rv industry. as for dual pane, they don't really help much...in my opinion and are a waste of money.
but i do know you will love 2 a/c units and a lippert 6 point leveling system.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:42 AM   #51
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I have put 86k miles on my 2016 f350 lariat ultimate without a problem. Best looking f350 built. Now pulling a 2019 3761 FL. Great setup. My wife has listened to the campfire hype and decided we had to have a dually. I'll have tears when I put it up for sale next month when the new truck arrives. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. I'm sure the 350 dually will be fine but I never wanted one or a long bed. After a year of her talking I finally gave in and ordered.
It was falsely stated in post #32 that "Everyone on this forum is in love with Dually" and, for the record, I am not an "outlier".
Like Capt.John I "never wanted one or a long bed". I have more than enough TV for the mission (Yes , went to the scales fully loaded) and have no plans to replace my 5er with a larger unit. And we have no plans to ever full time as well.
Having DW discuss what she heard at the "campfire" is not a bad thing as it helped you make a rational "joint" decision on a major purchase. As for the "year of her talking" well, we all know what that is in translation.
One guy on this forum posted that his DW came home from the dealer in a brand new DRW and that he was unaware of her intentions to purchase.
Put in simple terms,if my DW came home with a major purchase of that magnitude without my knowledge she better have her attorney in the passengers seat.
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I pulled my Alpine and DRV with a 2010 F350 dually, long bed, supercab. I realize not everyone likes a dually, but for the past 9 years, the dually has been the primary transportation. I've driven it everywhere, except for one tunnel in the Black Hills that was 8'2" wide. The F350/F450 hips are 8'4".


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It was falsely stated in post #32 that "Everyone on this forum is in love with Dually" and, for the record, I am not an "outlier".

Like Capt.John I "never wanted one or a long bed". I have more than enough TV for the mission (Yes , went to the scales fully loaded) and have no plans to replace my 5er with a larger unit. And we have no plans to ever full time as well.

Having DW discuss what she heard at the "campfire" is not a bad thing as it helped you make a rational "joint" decision on a major purchase. As for the "year of her talking" well, we all know what that is in translation.

One guy on this forum posted that his DW came home from the dealer in a brand new DRW and that he was unaware of her intentions to purchase.

Put in simple terms,if my DW came home with a major purchase of that magnitude without my knowledge she better have her attorney in the passengers seat.

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Only 3 things we discuss', real estate, vehicles, and 5ers. I always gave her more say in home purchases and 5ers. In nearly 50 years of marriage this is the 1st time I purchased the type of vehicle that is my driver at her wish. It got to the point even turning off my hearing aids did not work, another 1st.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:25 AM   #54
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It was falsely stated in post #32 that "Everyone on this forum is in love with Dually" and, for the record, I am not an "outlier".
Like Capt.John I "never wanted one or a long bed". I have more than enough TV for the mission (Yes , went to the scales fully loaded) and have no plans to replace my 5er with a larger unit. And we have no plans to ever full time as well.
Having DW discuss what she heard at the "campfire" is not a bad thing as it helped you make a rational "joint" decision on a major purchase. As for the "year of her talking" well, we all know what that is in translation.
One guy on this forum posted that his DW came home from the dealer in a brand new DRW and that he was unaware of her intentions to purchase.
Put in simple terms,if my DW came home with a major purchase of that magnitude without my knowledge she better have her attorney in the passengers seat.
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I rephrase my statement then, there is a strong preference for DRW on this forum. By "outlier" I just meant you are in the minority, those who do not love DRW.
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I rephrase my statement then, there is a strong preference for DRW on this forum. By "outlier" I just meant you are in the minority, those who do not love DRW.
I'm not sure that those that like SRW are in the minority. Those that like DRW really like their DRWs and are proud of them and I don't blame them. They really are great towing vehicles. For some like myself they just don't fit in my plans and I will choose an RV that fits within those confines.
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I'm not sure that those that like SRW are in the minority. Those that like DRW really like their DRWs and are proud of them and I don't blame them. They really are great towing vehicles. For some like myself they just don't fit in my plans and I will choose an RV that fits within those confines.
Yeah....What he said!!!
I am comfortably within the specs and maximums for my TV and 5er combo.I have about 600 lbs. of cargo weight available. When I weighed at the scales I had everything I could think of loaded. Bikes.tools,clothes,food ect... Even had a generator and separate fuel tank (full) in the TV. Normally I do not travel with the tank (12 gallons) full.
If I ever change my 5er it will be for something smaller than what I have now. But for now this floor plan is perfect.

Hey penra,no offense man. Duallies have their place for sure,in fact there are many 2500s out there that should be duallies. But that's another thread I'm sure. I had a guy the other day tell me he was towing a 41 foot 5er with a 2500 Diesel. Yikes!!!
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Sounds like my neighbor. He has a 2017 F250 diesel and pulling a new 41' Montana. To make matters worse with a 331 ratio. His pw is higher than his payload.
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Sounds like my neighbor. He has a 2017 F250 diesel and pulling a new 41' Montana. To make matters worse with a 331 ratio. His pw is higher than his payload.
If his F250 is a Lariat, KR or Platinum, then his PW is probably double (or more) his payload.....
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But it is an xlt. Not a lot of options. When he gets home next month from up north I'm going to take a look.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:03 PM   #60
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If his F250 is a Lariat, KR or Platinum, then his PW is probably double (or more) his payload.....
PW? Where is the glossary?

GVW=gross vehicle weight
GVWR=gross vehicle weight ?
DRW=dual rear wheels
SRW=single rear wheel
TV=tow vehicle
TT=travel trailer
FW=fifth wheel
PW=pin weight?
DW=dear wife?
How am I doing?
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