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09-24-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mtofell
The 4300# I quoted is for a 4X4 crew-cab with a box. You can "what if I pack anvils?" "What if my driveway is 600 feet long down a black hole?" all day long but the fact remains a SRW truck with a 12,700# dry 5th wheel is completely possible while staying within all numbers.
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When you find that truck, take a photo of the yellow sticker and post it on the forum. Until then, a 4300 pound payload in a 1 ton truck that's equipped with the options any RV owner would want and need is only parked next to the unicorn pen at the dealership.
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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09-24-2019, 10:39 PM
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from all the research i've done in the past couple months before picking a out a tow vehicle, the best rule of thumb i've seen is that if your FULLY LOADED pin weight is 3000 lbs or more, it's best to get a dually, simply because if you buy a 1-ton SRW and put 3000 lbs on the hitch, you only have around 500-1000 lbs of payload left over for you, the wife, kids, fuel, tools, 5er hitch, etc. as far as which manufacturer, everybody has their favorites (i'm a GM guy) but honestly any of the big 3 have very good engine/transmission combinations.
btw...greetings from a fellow Montanan. born and raised in the Electric City of Great Falls! i'm a transplanted Texan now, but i miss Big Sky Country every day.
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2020 Cougar 368MBI
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09-25-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sully585
from all the research i've done in the past couple months before picking a out a tow vehicle, the best rule of thumb i've seen is that if your FULLY LOADED pin weight is 3000 lbs or more, it's best to get a dually, simply because if you buy a 1-ton SRW and put 3000 lbs on the hitch, you only have around 500-1000 lbs of payload left over for you, the wife, kids, fuel, tools, 5er hitch, etc. as far as which manufacturer, everybody has their favorites (i'm a GM guy) but honestly any of the big 3 have very good engine/transmission combinations.
btw...greetings from a fellow Montanan. born and raised in the Electric City of Great Falls! i'm a transplanted Texan now, but i miss Big Sky Country every day.
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I would put it much lower, around 2500+ if one is going to use the setup for extended trips.
Installing a washer/drier in the nose and/or generator puts one in a dually for sure.
We full timed for a year and a half with a RAM 3500 SRW 4x4 and 16K fifth wheel, so I have a bit of first hand experience. Stability was never and issue including on high wind days. Combined weight was 24,500. As stated earlier we made 2 round trips from NW Washington to Arizona with that set up. Chris
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09-25-2019, 06:46 AM
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So, what truck did you buy????
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09-25-2019, 08:04 AM
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Choices Choices! 👀
More importantly what brand of beer are stocking on board? Coke or Pepsi for the young one? Plain or peanut M&Ms? Mounds or Almond Joy? Come on, let's get this thread rolling!
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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09-25-2019, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 66joej
^ As john said you have to look at the door sticker for actual payload. I have an '18 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty with the 6.4 hemi SLT with the Harvest Edition option. Payload is 3805. If it had the diesel option deduct another 600#. Laramie another 200#?
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Per the chart I posted, the Hemi engines have 800# less GVWR than the Cummins counterpart (11,000 vs. 11,800 for the truck I was talking about - a quick scan of the chart shows it's sometimes a 900# difference). I'm guessing this is because the added weight of the diesel goes over the front axle and lowering the GVWR for the Hemi keeps the payloads between the Hemi and Cummins more of an "apples to apples" comparison.
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09-29-2019, 07:13 AM
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Get the biggest truck you can afford. You never know what you're going to haul.
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09-29-2019, 08:12 AM
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I had a 2016 F350 cc Lariat payload was 3434. Oh for pulling 14k. Wifey had to have a new 5er. At 17k I have a new F350cc lariat dually. Payload is 5598.
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09-29-2019, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66joej
^ As john said you have to look at the door sticker for actual payload. I have an '18 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty with the 6.4 hemi SLT with the Harvest Edition option. Payload is 3805. If it had the diesel option deduct another 600#. Laramie another 200#?
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I have a 2018 3500 slt ctd and my payload is 3799 lbs.
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09-29-2019, 11:05 AM
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Hands down the best truck for a big trailer is the Freightliner M2 106. I just ordered one after pricing an F450 Lariat at $80k, compared to a loaded M2 crew cab, cab and chassis at $95k. I'll have to get a bed for it and mount the hitch at additional cost, but I think it's a no-brainer. Brakes are much better on the M2 and you can't beat a Cummins L9 350/1150 for power and the engine brake.
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09-29-2019, 02:10 PM
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Tyler, we looked at an M-2 in Belton, Missouri a year ago. Very very nice and bargain priced at $155k. Momma said “I love it. Stop in and see me when you’re in town.” Obviously it wasn't right for ‘our’ situation. But having been raised in a family of twin-screw Emeryvilles and Diamond T’s, i would have loved to have it....for about three days!
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09-29-2019, 04:24 PM
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Gone Traveling
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That's because you were pricing either a Sportchassis or TransWest conversion. I couldn't afford one of those either. I ordered mine from a Freightliner dealer with a longer-ish wheelbase. I plan to add a 16' flatbed so I can haul my side by side on the bed to avoid pulling doubles anymore. No joke - the price was $95k for a brand new rig. I'd look into it if I was you.
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09-29-2019, 04:56 PM
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Tyler, after the money spent on a new 450, I dont see buying something that wont pull the Suites in a better fashion AND have a wife who isnt happy. The 450 is our daily driver and has way more bells and whistles than any one truck should have. She pulls, yes, triple tows, and drives it all over town. Why would I rock this boat?
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09-29-2019, 05:17 PM
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Majority agreement
Any of the big 3 dually and diesel so that you will never regret a trip!
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09-29-2019, 09:09 PM
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My$.02. I have a 2018 369 and weights are pretty identical and a 16 350 srw. After loading ready for camping and with golf cart in garage my tongue weight was about same as dry. Over all weight was around 15200 ish which is pushing the srw weight limits. We are a family of 4 plus 2 dogs, so now we travel in 2 cars, me and dogs, wife and kids separate and not for room but for weight reasons... i am within my weight limits, barely but within. If i was shopping new truck after bought camper, would def go drw...and 4wd (seen a few 2wd trucks have issues on gravel slopes/mud with 5th wheels.
Point of post, can a srw 1ton do it? Yes... but for small price difference, dually is what you will be happiest with
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09-30-2019, 04:51 AM
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any of the one tons will work. just get something you and the wife like.
and we are talking diesel.
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09-30-2019, 08:09 AM
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3 things you need truck-wise for that trailer: 1) 1 ton, 2) Diesel, 3) Dually
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