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06-01-2018, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KOZKO
Look where my king pin is, I don’t see any issues
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With a RAM 3500 you probably won't have any problems. Try it with a 2800 pound pin and a 250/2500 diesel or worse yet with a 150/1500 with a 4100 pound rear axle (see my post #12)...... Likely the only people who will have "issues" with leverage by turning the hitch so the attachment point is behind the axle are those who are at or very near payload/GVW/GAWR. You don't, from appearances, fit that category.
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06-01-2018, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KOZKO
Look where my king pin is, I don’t see any issues
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Looking at that picture, either you are towing nose high, or your pin doesn’t put enough weight on the TV to level it.
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06-01-2018, 06:57 PM
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Sorry she’s still twisted up in my driveway- the photo was just to show kingpin vs axel position
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06-01-2018, 07:39 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Mar 2018
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There are no differences in the axle between a F250 and F350 single wheel other than a single leaf and sway bar in some configurations. I use the Ford factory puck system and can turn as sharp as I want. I do not try to put strain on 5er axles pushing it laterally. I don’t mind on my implement or stock trailer as they are usually on grass or loose gravel and do not have the coefficient of friction as asphalt or concrete. I pull a loaded 3121 RL with zero issues. I did add airbags just to help with the ride, they are Airlift 5k and installation was ezpz no drilling or modifications necessary. Safety is paramount but on many of these forums nothing short of a Peterbuilt or Kenworth is worthy of hooking up, I believe you’ll be fine.
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06-03-2018, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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I have the 325rl on the f250 shortbed with a curt slider hitch. I’ve not had an occasion where I needed the slider.
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06-03-2018, 10:54 AM
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STIHLNTIME.... just a note, starting in 2017,the F250 with a Powerstroke and the "Trailer Tow Package - High Capacity" comes with a different rear end (Dana M275)than the F250 gasser(Sterling 10.5).
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06-03-2018, 05:18 PM
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Location: Vermont
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2015 F350 SB with Andersen Ultimate and no problems at 90 degrees with my Cougar.
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06-04-2018, 05:32 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Missouri
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Only way you can not use the salider function is never make a turn, or not haul. An auto slide hitch moves independently going forward or in reverse. Whether you use a ground guide or not, your auto sliding hitch slides.
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06-04-2018, 06:11 AM
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Location: Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RBCCONT
I have an f 250 crewcab.Purchasing a Larado 325rl. Going to use an Andersen ultimate aluminum. Anyone using one .How much of a turn do you get without hitting the cab?
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I have a 2013 F250 Crew Cab short bed, but I don't have the camper you are looking to purchase. I have been using the Andersen ultimate aluminum with the B&W turnover ball hitch. Love this combo! The Andersen is light enough that I can store it in the camper basement when not in use. My camper is a V-nose so I don't have any issues with turn radius. Here are some photos of my setup to give you an idea of how it would look. Hope this helps.
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06-05-2018, 07:31 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I have a Sprinter 5th wheel and a short bed F-250. I use the Andersen Aluminum hitch after my son-in-law got one for his F-350 to pull a fully loaded Montana. I love it! It set my pin back about 8 inches so it gives me plenty of room to carry my 12.5' Porta-Bote on Yakamar racks on the roof of the truck. I have a picture of the rig in my Album on this forum if you want to see it. You will read about people boasting they can wrap their rig at a full 90 degrees. I find it amusing but my truck does not have that kind of turning radius. You can wrap it tight when backing but most RV parks don't require that type of maneuvering to get in and on the road I have never ran across any turns that steep. Just be sure to follow the torque instructions and everything will be fine.
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06-05-2018, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketbuilder
STIHLNTIME.... just a note, starting in 2017,the F250 with a Powerstroke and the "Trailer Tow Package - High Capacity" comes with a different rear end (Dana M275)than the F250 gasser(Sterling 10.5).
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There were differences prior to the 2017 models also. Axle size, number of splines on the axles, and a few other things that escape me right now. If you needed internal parts for the axles, the parts were ordered based on the vehicle V.I.N. number, which obviously differentiates between an F250 and a F350.
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06-05-2018, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Saint Augustine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Howie
I had to borrow Ram 3500 short bed to haul the 5er as the F350 is not available. I had to reverse the receiver? (Anderson part on the 5er) on the 5th wheel to move the 5er closer to the cab because the kingpin bracket was so close to the rear gate of the Ram. The Ram bed is slightly shorter than the F350 short bed but by reversing the receiver it worked just fine.
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What year is that 3500? My 2017 's "short" bed is 6'6" and I can make 90 deg turns without using my Patriot's slider.
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06-05-2018, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Saint Augustine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KOZKO
Look where my king pin is, I don’t see any issues
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Take the picture so we can see your wheels so we can see how far behind your rear axle the pin is...
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06-05-2018, 09:46 AM
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The Dark Side of Anderson Hitches.
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06-05-2018, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Saint Augustine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailz
I have a 2013 F250 Crew Cab short bed, but I don't have the camper you are looking to purchase. I have been using the Andersen ultimate aluminum with the B&W turnover ball hitch. Love this combo! The Andersen is light enough that I can store it in the camper basement when not in use. My camper is a V-nose so I don't have any issues with turn radius. Here are some photos of my setup to give you an idea of how it would look. Hope this helps.
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Yeah looks like the pin is definitely behind your rear axle.
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06-05-2018, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auggie Waterman
Take the picture so we can see your wheels so we can see how far behind your rear axle the pin is...
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He is in front of the axle with the pin. He has the coupler "reversed" from how most run them. His pin is centered with the "gooseneck tube". The ram frame has the gooseneck ball placed in front of the axle.
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06-05-2018, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank G
The Dark Side of Anderson Hitches.
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That's exactly what I thought might happen when I was researching hitches & saw the aluminum Anderson, especially the one with the offset, basically only 2 - 1" aluminum tubes carrying the entire pin weight. Just my .02 cents! I went B&W Companion.
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06-05-2018, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: McKeesport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank G
The Dark Side of Anderson Hitches.
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The ONLY failure ever and there is much speculation that it was the owners misuse and NO proof it was poor design. I love mine!
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06-05-2018, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WI
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The Darkside of the standard fifth wheel hitch.
Bet you can find a lot more of these pictures than you can find failed Andersen Hitches. One situation causes substantial damage to the truck and possibly the RV. But hey lets find the one failed hitch and post the heck out of it. Google "Failed Reese 5th Wheel Hitch" or any other manufactures hitch that you prefer. For shiats and giggles lets also do "Failed B&W Comapanion".
Here's just the first 1 on each.
http://www.redwoodowners.com/forums/...lure-1687.html
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f44/b-and...re-287912.html
It's man made product and man is using said product. There will be a few failures of and such product any brand any given day.
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06-05-2018, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: McKeesport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auggie Waterman
Take the picture so we can see your wheels so we can see how far behind your rear axle the pin is...
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I'll try to remember on Friday when I'm hooked up again, but if you look at that picture again and find the "divot" in the wheel well, that is the center directly above the axel. So you can see the Andersen is mounted to the ball in the bed and that's a few inches in front, so then if you make a line with the kingpin and that divot my kingpin looks directly over the axel.
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