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Old 09-12-2019, 06:48 PM   #31
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This is on page 30 of the Jayco Pinnacle Owner's Manual:

"Extended Or Full Time Usage
Your new recreation vehicle has been built for enjoyment in a recreational manner. It is not intended for use as full-time quarters or a permanent residence. Continuous living in your vehicle could cause accelerated wear and damage to the various components."

"CAUTION: Continuous or permanent living in your recreation vehicle may affect your warranty coverage and may void the “Limited Warranty” applicable to your vehicle."


The three year structural warranty for Jayco towable products started with 2020 models. It does not include any previous models (per the Jayco website)
https://www.jayco.com/products/fifth...warranty-info/
I owned a Keystone product. When we looked we also considered Jayco. Settled for the Keystone. That was a mistake. So, this past spring DW and I went to a local RV show to find something to replace the Cougar. We were looking for an "extended stay" 5th wheel. Looked at the Cougar (again), Montana, Jayco and Solitude. One noticeable thing with the Thor products they all exhibit the same type of workmanship, and shortcuts. The Montana and Jayco should have stood out but didn't. There were no Forest River brands-Cedar Creek or Cardinal-on display. So, we took a chance on looking closer at the Solitude. And went back and forth comparing. Settled on the Solitude. Yes, I will agree they all have their issues. A friend of mine told me not too long ago, an owner of a Tiffin Allegro Bus, that we, the buyer, are the quality control department. Very true.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:02 PM   #32
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I have a friend who owns a 2 million dollar motorhome. It's his second, the first was a 1.5 million dollar model. They live in the motorhome half the year and in their house the other half of the year. BOTH of his motorhomes have been riddled with problems and he has not yet managed to complete a trip with either. His regular agenda is to drive the motorhome for his "vacation" and drop it off at the factory for repairs and fly home, fly back out to get it when the factory gets the repairs done and when he gets it home, drop it off at the dealership to fix the things that break on the trip from the factory. On a trip about a year ago (on his "cheap one") he broke down in the northwest, left it in a small town, caught a taxi to the airport and flew home, called his dealer and told them to deal with it.

Trust me when I say, it's not "just Keystone", just THOR, just Tiffin, just towables, just cheap units, just bad luck..... The RV industry produces "exactly what the public will purchase"....... Would it be nice if they were all problem free? sure would.... Will it happen? Not as long as people are standing in line with credit approvals in hand to buy anything they drag to a dealer's lot.....

It's easy to blame Keystone, or THOR or ???? but in reality, until the public "just says NO" things aren't going to change.... We get what we line up to say yes to and buy as fast as they can sling 'em together.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:12 PM   #33
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Yep, pretty much I agree.
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This week I had a article pop up on google about poor RV build quality. I did not save it or remember who authored the story. For fun I read it with an open mind. They talked about recent years the high numbers being built. A school opened to teach workers how to build and service RVs and thought that may help in the future. Interviewed a bunch of R/V owners who just purchased motorhomes to pull trailers. No one was happy with the construction and problems the units had. All different makes included. Author made a comment about how it is not like buying a car at all and new RV buyers have no idea about how common issues are. Also mentioned the long time frames at dealers to get work done. I wondered how much the author had pulled from this site since the old timers have been saying almost everything he wrote. Bottom line was the RV industry as a whole has issues just as stated in this post and sorry to say Keystone is no better or worse than everyone else.
My opinion is do a better PDI, fix stuff yourself or learn how to. Hope the unit you got is free of any major defects. To keep any value or life in any RV they require maintenance and a lot of maintenance. Either by the owner or a shop. In the end of a 10 year loan most RVs are about ready for the salvage yard.
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