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Old 05-30-2016, 09:51 PM   #1
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Oil on rim....should I be concerned

Halfway into our trip this weekend and as I was setting up trailer I noticed a little oil on the left front rim of my cougar. I tried to take some pics. It looks like there was some on the inside rim too. I took the best pics I could. I wiped it clean and when I got home tonight I saw it had returned. The other side of coach has no such issues. Should I be concerned ? I was thinking I maybe picked something up from road but am not sure. Wheel rolls fine and no noises.





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Old 05-31-2016, 02:02 AM   #2
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It might be worthwhile to pull that wheel off to see exactly where it's coming from. Remember these axles are notorious for leaking grease seals.

If it's the seals and the shoes are lightly wet with grease you can clean them off with brake cleaner, if badly soaked get new shoes or swapout the wheel assemblies. Over the last ten years pollution and environmental concerns have neutered most degreasers making it impossible to clean deeply soiled brake shoe material.

Every time you take the drums off swap the seal by the way.

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Old 05-31-2016, 07:27 AM   #3
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As rjsurfer said, I would put my money on a leaking grease seal.
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:55 AM   #4
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I would say the dust cap fell off,
there doesn't seem to be any oil on the back side.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:07 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies so far, so it looks like consensus is something is leaking, I am past my 1 year warranty but have 5 year warranty so I guess I should take this thing in for repairs? I hate going to the dealer, they hold the damn thing forever.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:11 AM   #6
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I suggest you pop the small cap at the center of the decorative wheel hub cover and check if your dust cap has worked loose as mcintoshs suggested may be the problem. If a seal was leaking, more evidence would be visible on the brake assembly and inside of the wheel IMO.

The fix may be very simple and a DIYer.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:18 AM   #7
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Buy some 10-36 seals - etrailer have them for about 4 bucks for two in a package vs the ridiculous Dexter or NAPA price. I've found that they are every bit as good on 2 different 5ers so far - zero leaks. But I do inspect and hand pack the bearings yearly (~12,000 miles), never using the E-Z Lube zerks that may blow out the seal.

https://www.etrailer.com/Seals-for-T...cc-onlyreviews

As far as your extended warranty - I wouldn't take any RV back to a dealer for him to stick in his back yard until you harassed him often enough to do that low/no pay job when I could do it in a couple hours and very few dollars with only a couple hand tools.
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where do you guys learn how to do all this stuff yourselves? lol. I guess I will just never be a mechanic!
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:52 PM   #9
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We just do it on faith, and do not let anyone know of our mistakes along the way, LOL!
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:55 PM   #10
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IF you've a leaky seal and your brakes aren't ruined, replacement seals are only a couple of bucks. IF your brakes are saturated and you go to an RV dealer you'd better be prepared to spend some bucks. I just replaced all four brake assemblies (one was ruined by a failed seal) and got them from eTrailer for under $90 each. These were Dexter assemblies, not aftermarket. They were the complete backing plate, shoes, magnet and all associated hardware. Only thing missing was the little rubber plugs for the adjusting holes. The job wasn't that difficult. I'm 72 and it only took me two days (between TV and nap times!).
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Old 05-31-2016, 03:26 PM   #11
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That oil being thrown is often when either the grease used is a cheap one that separates the oil out over time or a mixture of incompatible greases, like when the zerk is used to grease a bearing without removing the grease that is already there. The best method is to remove the drum, clean and repack the bearings with a good grease and install new seals.

I use Texas Refinery 880, C&C, NLGI2 grease, which has a high Timken load rating...FWIW.

http://www.texasrefinery.com/assets/...n--chassis.pdf
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where do you guys learn how to do all this stuff yourselves? lol. I guess I will just never be a mechanic!

It's because some of us went to school for it, some because Uncle Sam taught us and some just because we are 'gearheads'/'tinkerers' and dive in just because we can.

This is really a very easy job (though it is greasy-dirty) that we can talk you through. As far as tools - you will need a few and we can give you advice on that too.
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Yeah, some of us pulled on wrenches for a long time, for fun and "professionally". After 20 years of pulling. I jumped to the dark side and watched others pull.
But, sometimes it's like the cobblers kids have no shoes. After years of doing it, I just don't want to anymore. I packed my bearings last year, not sure if I will do it or pay someone else next time. Not much to it though. No, it won't be the dealer. I have a trusted shop that only sells parts and does repairs.
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:09 PM   #14
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If thats grease your hub got hot. I check my hubs at every stop for heat. You need to secure the brake wires rubbing on the spring could wear the coating off and cause brake failure on that wheel.
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where do you guys learn how to do all this stuff yourselves? lol. I guess I will just never be a mechanic!

I did my own stuff YEARS before I became a tech, and way before the WWW and forums. Some people have an innate ability to figure things out and haven't got enough sense not to try LOL.

Now with knowledge bases like this forum, I am surprised at the number of people who bring stuff in.. But I'm not complaining, it keeps the pay checks coming.
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where do you guys learn how to do all this stuff yourselves? lol. I guess I will just never be a mechanic!


Grandpa and dad.

But nowadays, honestly it's hard not to find a YouTube video or three on DIYing just about any project. I always check.

Sometimes there's a tip or a special use of a tool or whatever that someone much more experienced shares, and you slap your forehead and think, "That's brilliant!"
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Trouble with Utube is this.......If you truly a noob and learning for the first time, you can not differentiate between the correct way to do something and the many instances of incorrect information on the interweb.
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Trouble with Utube is this.......If you truly a noob and learning for the first time, you can not differentiate between the correct way to do something and the many instances of incorrect information on the interweb.
Even though true, there is still a wealth of info available. Obviously, the more informed or experienced one is the more accurate or false the info can be. Wish I had the web when I was in school instead of the library or Encyclopedia Brittanica.
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Trouble with Utube is this.......If you truly a noob and learning for the first time, you can not differentiate between the correct way to do something and the many instances of incorrect information on the interweb.


Yeah, but unless you're doing something really oddball, there's three or four videos. It's pretty easy to figure out who's the idiot out of the four, for most things.

And there's always those dead tree things at the library, as quaint as it may seem. Funny how numerous generations have learned things from those... :-)
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:56 PM   #20
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So took the rig to dealer and it was a blown grease seal. they fixed that, repacked all four bearings. cleaned the brakes, $250. I can live with that since the bearings were gong to be due for repacking anyway. Oh and my hands are nice and clean. lol
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