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Old 08-09-2018, 09:51 PM   #11
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I have a big semi circular level mounted to the pinbox. It has a 1/2" steel ball in it and is easily viewed from the driver's seat. When backing into a campsite, it's extremely easy to tell when we're level "side to side"... If I need to add blocks under a wheel, each mark on the level is 1", so, from the driver's seat I can tell how many blocks to place under a wheel and get the trailer level on the first pass.

Easy and no need to check any "levels inside" the trailer. If the pinbox is level, the rest of the trailer "has to follow" (unless we twisted the frame on the way to the campground)..... Front/rear leveling is just as easy, there's a level on that big one for measuring front/rear level as well.

Once the pinbox is "set" the rest of the trailer is as well....
Might be a stupid question, but, I was looking to get this level. Just wondering the best way to make sure you are level before installing it. I mean, when attaching the level, how do you know you are installing correctly to give you a proper read. Does that make sense??
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:18 AM   #12
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Might be a stupid question, but, I was looking to get this level. Just wondering the best way to make sure you are level before installing it. I mean, when attaching the level, how do you know you are installing correctly to give you a proper read. Does that make sense??

I used a 6’ carpenters level on my floor. Leveled the fiver and then installed on my pin box. It does allow for adjustment when installing so it was easy to set it.
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Might be a stupid question, but, I was looking to get this level. Just wondering the best way to make sure you are level before installing it. I mean, when attaching the level, how do you know you are installing correctly to give you a proper read. Does that make sense??
First, there are no stupid questions. If you don't understand a concept, asking for clarification is always a valid question.

As chuckster57 indicated, get the trailer "as level as you can" then install the "big level". I used a 6' construction level. I placed it side to side on the trailer floor and leveled the trailer, then placed it lengthwise on the floor and leveled front to back. Once I had the trailer level, I changed the position of the level several times to make sure nothing had changed during the leveling.

After leveling and checking to be sure, I proceeded to install the level. Once it's installed, there are adjustments on the level mount to "fine tune" it to be "perfectly level". After adjustment, unless you bump it hard enough to bend it, it'll remain at the settings you adjusted to. Mine has been at the same settings (without readjustment) for almost 5 years and hasn't moved.
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:45 AM   #14
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I guess what I was trying to say was, how do I know I am actually level. I can level off my floor, counter and rear bumper and get three different readings. I usually use my rear bumper and floor to get a good idea. I just have never felt comfortable attaching a level to my 5er because I don't know if I am level to begin with.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:49 AM   #15
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Pick one. I would use the floor, near the refer.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:51 AM   #16
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I guess what I was trying to say was, how do I know I am actually level. I can level off my floor, counter and rear bumper and get three different readings. I usually use my rear bumper and floor to get a good idea. I just have never felt comfortable attaching a level to my 5er because I don't know if I am level to begin with.
Take your pick, choose the one that makes the most sense to you and level the trailer. After that, put the level away and open an adult beverage. If you keep "running from spot to spot trying to level things everywhere" you'll die an old man with a trailer that isn't level (and thirsty to boot)... Take a chill pill and sit down before you fall down or worse, trip over the level......
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:00 PM   #17
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normally I do not spend a lot of time. But great advice LOL. I was just wondering because I’ve always wanted to put a big level on my tongue. But knowing me and my OCD I would have a level on my tongue sand still check my bumper and floor. Lol
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:09 PM   #18
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Who is to say that the rear bumper was welded to the frame level? Who is to say that there wasn't a loose screw or a wire laid under the floor that "jacks up" one side of the floor in one location. Who is to say that the tongue is "perfectly level with the frame 20' back from the point of measure or that the refrigerator was set in the cabinet "perfectly level with the rear bumper or tongue....

You're "assuming" (look that up if you need to) that the trailer was constructed on a jig where every component is aligned and level with every other component... Do you really believe that could happen, even if it was intentional???? Heck, most subsonic airplanes aren't built to that kind of "exacting standard"....
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I level on the rear bumper (side to side) and inside floor (front to back). Its not rocket science to me. So I call it close enough to put the slides out and grab an adult beverage!
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:13 PM   #20
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Who is to say that the rear bumper was welded to the frame level? Who is to say that there wasn't a loose screw or a wire laid under the floor that "jacks up" one side of the floor in one location. Who is to say that the tongue is "perfectly level with the frame 20' back from the point of measure or that the refrigerator was set in the cabinet "perfectly level with the rear bumper or tongue....

You're "assuming" (look that up if you need to) that the trailer was constructed on a jig where every component is aligned and level with every other component... Do you really believe that could happen, even if it was intentional???? Heck, most subsonic airplanes aren't built to that kind of "exacting standard"....
Actually, you got it all wrong. I am assuming, but I an assuming none of those locations are perfectly square. That has been my point this whole thread. How can I install a permanent level when I don't know where to judge it from to begin with. Thanks for helping me be more clear. Adult beverages it is
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