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07-10-2018, 04:18 AM
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Performance chip
I have a 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 liter hemi with 110,000 miles pulling a 2018 hideout 26 rls. While driving on relative flat land I cannot use cruise without transmission kicking out of overdrive constantly. I know I should turn overdrive off but then I am burning lots of gas. Will a performance chip help me out?
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07-10-2018, 04:36 AM
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You have a choice of what you want to burn, gas or the transmission, especially with a high mileage tranny. Performance tuner may help with the tranny searching for a gear but it will add more stress to the transmission. On a gasser I wouldn't advise it.
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07-10-2018, 04:46 AM
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Not for long before you melt the tranny...
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07-10-2018, 07:03 AM
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Performance chips can do more harm than good. Often when you deviate from the parameters that the manufacturers engineers have set, weaknesses are realized. You can buy a lot of gas for what a transmission would cost.
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07-10-2018, 08:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbart56
Performance chips can do more harm than good. Often when you deviate from the parameters that the manufacturers engineers have set, weaknesses are realized. You can buy a lot of gas for what a transmission would cost.
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And use the money you would have spent for that performance chip to pay for a good transmission checkup/service/oil and filter change......
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07-10-2018, 08:50 AM
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I had installed an SCT towing tune in the F250, didn't seem to help as much as advertised (imagine that) and on the first long trip, coming back home thru Tennessee it would not allow the exhaust filter to clean. After getting a warning that the truck was going to shut down (forget how many miles it gave until shut down), I pulled into a rest area and reinstalled the stock tune. Exhaust filter cleaning commenced immediately after after start up and commenced for about 45 miles.
FOR SALE: SCT X4 tuner! (not really, I do still use it to read error codes).
So my opinion now is don't mess with the factory tunes for towing.
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07-10-2018, 09:05 AM
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Old Mustanger,
Valuable lesson learned !!! As much competition as there is between GM, Ford and RAM to have the "best tow ratings/best load ratings" you can almost guarantee that they have run the numbers against the failure data and "tweeked" every ounce of power, every pound of payload and every inch of MPG from their ratings and still kept reliability at the best it can be. Adding a $350 "chip" to circumvent all of the research any of the manufacturers has put into a $75,000 vehicle just seems, to me at least, a good way to push the reliability past where the manufacturer knows "is the best setting for performance vs reliability"....
Just like the auto manufacturers "push the ratings to the limit" you can be sure that the "chip makers" boast their product to the limit as well. Biggest difference, that I can see, is that the auto manufacturer has to pay to fix what breaks, so they have a vested interest in keeping the vehicle on the road while the "chip maker" can always blame the owner, the manufacturer or the gas you were using....... YMMV
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07-10-2018, 08:04 PM
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The greatest benefit to adding performance enhancements to any of today's engines is to the companies selling the enhancements. If you lived long enough & kept that truck that long you MIGHT recoup your investment.
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07-15-2018, 12:13 PM
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Back in about 06 or 07 I put a Super Chip in my ford F-350. I was an RV hauler in those days. Left Texas for Colorado, I was fighting big head winds and going up hill. That chip really made the difference. Pulled like a champ, but in the end. I paid a big price. Burned up the tranny and lost a lot of time. Had a new one ut in and soon burned it up. Traded for a Dodge and NO more chips. I really learned the hard way.
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07-15-2018, 12:25 PM
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Apples/oranges as my experience is with GM DuraMax engines...EVERY blown headgasket I've seen on a DMax (14 years as a service adviser) was on a "chipped/tuner" equipped engine. as others have stated OEM's spend millions of $$$ on R&D to make their products reliable.
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07-18-2018, 07:38 PM
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I can't tell you much about Dodge tuning, but you need too find a company that specializes in tuning Dodge's, the standard cookie cutter tuner's aren't what you need. Like me, I drive 2 7.3L's and have tuning done by PHP's Hydra chip. This give's me more horsepower for towing, and I monitor vital engine function's with gauges, a lot of guy's say chips are worthless, I disagree. If you know who to talk too and tune you're truck you can safely add power for towing. But like I said you need too find someone that deal's with custom tuning for Dodge's.
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07-19-2018, 02:51 AM
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Hansel, read this clip from your post: "You can safely add power for towing." Common sense will tell you that if it could be done SAFELY then the big three would pick up on this. I respectfully disagree with what you said. I just don't believe that a driver should put their large investment at risk for a little torque or a touch of horsepower.
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07-19-2018, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Hansel, read this clip from your post: "You can safely add power for towing." Common sense will tell you that if it could be done SAFELY then the big three would pick up on this. I respectfully disagree with what you said. I just don't believe that a driver should put their large investment at risk for a little torque or a touch of horsepower.
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Well we will just have too disagree then, I personally know Bill that has been programming diesel trucks back when he worked for SuperChip's. The manufactures tune these vehicle's for longevity and reliability, and refining the tuning for some more HP can be done safely. I have 2 7.3L that have chip's and tuning and have NOT had any problems associated with such tuning. I don't do anything stupid with my truck's, I take very good care of maintenance. I've only dealt with my 7.3L, but as far as a newer diesel I wouldn't be looking for a chip they have enough power, maybe that's where I missed the actual question.
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07-19-2018, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Hansel, read this clip from your post: "You can safely add power for towing." Common sense will tell you that if it could be done SAFELY then the big three would pick up on this. I respectfully disagree with what you said. I just don't believe that a driver should put their large investment at risk for a little torque or a touch of horsepower.
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Actually, I believe that big government is the reason for stock tunes. EPA regs and exhaust emissions. With that said, some tuners go too far and can cause serious if not fatal issues. There are some that actually can make safe power increases. JMHO
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07-19-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SC Dreamer
Actually, I believe that big government is the reason for stock tunes. EPA regs and exhaust emissions. With that said, some tuners go too far and can cause serious if not fatal issues. There are some that actually can make safe power increases. JMHO
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You are probably correct to some degree, but remember, "big government", EPA and exhaust emissions are law. That requires the manufacturer to build/tune a vehicle to meet them and you/us to follow/meet them as well....in theory. Some do, some don't. YMMV
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07-19-2018, 06:37 PM
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In my listed 01, f350 I used the Superchip and blew up, yes really blew up the ford transmission. I had low gear, park and reverse gears after it shifted into 2nd from a stop sign and blew. The whole truck felt like it jumped off the ground. That chip cost me about 3,000 bucks. I got about 5 months and maybe 4,000 miles out of that wonderful chip.
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07-19-2018, 07:27 AM
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Not worthless, on the contrary they are quite pricey & for the gain of a few hp & couple ftlbs of torque my Dmax has plenty of both for me.
My son had a 6.0 Ford that didn't need a chip/tuner to blow head gaskets, just turn the key.
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07-19-2018, 10:05 AM
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Actually the OP was asking about chipping a gas motor... which is a complete waste of money..
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07-19-2018, 12:27 PM
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Hansel,
The thread is about chipping a Dodge 5.7L hemi (gas) engine. Comparing chips for diesel engines to what he needs is just not relevant to his engine.
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07-19-2018, 12:49 PM
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Well my mistake, just trying too help. Won't happen again 🤐🤐🤐
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