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12-22-2017, 06:40 PM
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No hot water
I picked the 5er up from the deslership yesterday. It had been there for some minor warranty work. The unit is brand new. Just got setup at the campsite a few hours ago and flipped the switch for electric water heater. DW went to wash her hands after 2ish hous and no hot water. Didn't even get Luke warm water. The dealership did winterize the unit while they had it due to some cold weather. Could the hot water heater be bypassed? That's really the only thing I can come up with at the moment.
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12-22-2017, 06:44 PM
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There is a bypass switch on our Laredo outside underneath the water heater.
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12-22-2017, 06:44 PM
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It could be bypassed, yes. Are you sure it has water in it? Pop the emergency valve slightly to see if there is water in it. If not, un-bypass it. If your electric element was on with no water in it, it most likely burned out.
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12-22-2017, 07:04 PM
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So, the hex nut thing shown in the bottom here was pulled out. I reinstalled it. But I still don't see any type of switch labeled "bypass".
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12-22-2017, 07:07 PM
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If I’m seeing right. To the left of that plastic oval cover is the switch to allow the heating element to work. It is installed “UPSIDE DOWN” meaning it’s opposite of what your used to. Make sure it’s in the down position.
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12-22-2017, 07:15 PM
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Here is a better picture of what I'm seeing. I've also tried cracking the brass valve on top and nothing but a little bit of steam came out.
Also, all of the photos seem to be rotated for some reason.
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12-22-2017, 07:20 PM
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No hot water
Yup! Make sure the switch is in the “ON” position. Looks like it is. The bypass valve might be on the backside of the tank. You may have to remove a panel to access the back of the water heater.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
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12-22-2017, 07:22 PM
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It's on the 'ON' position. But for the life of me I still can't get any water to come through the relief valve.
What am I missing?
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12-22-2017, 07:23 PM
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Turn the electric OFF. Let it cool for a few minutes, before you look for the bypass valve.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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12-22-2017, 07:28 PM
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If you opened the pressure valve and all you got was steam...you need to 1) turn off the power, 2) let it cool, 3) find the bypass valve and set it correctly, 4) let it fill then 5) turn the power back on. Sounds like you have been trying to heat up an empty tank, hopefully the element is not ruined.
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12-22-2017, 07:30 PM
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Done. I'll let it sit for about 30 min and see again. I just figured with water being pushed through the system, cracking the relief valve would vent any air in the system followed by a constant stream of water.
One question though, the 4-5" rod with the hex top that I screwed back in that is pictured on the bottom, what was that?
Thank you for your help!
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12-22-2017, 07:38 PM
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Well if you had the power on For even 30 seconds or so without water in the tank, you might use gas for heating the water this trip until you get a replacement electrical element.
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12-22-2017, 07:41 PM
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Damn it! Hahahahaha
Fingers crossed that it's not an expensive part.
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12-22-2017, 07:43 PM
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It's not bad cost wise. The bar you took out was the anode rod.
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12-22-2017, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5th_Wheelin
Damn it! Hahahahaha
Fingers crossed that it's not an expensive part.
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As stated it’s not expensive, but takes an 1 1/2” socket to remove it. I got mine from AutoZone and had to sand down the outer diameter of the socket so it fit past the housing.
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12-22-2017, 08:09 PM
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So, I just can't leave anything alone. I crawled into the basement storage area and pulled the access panel behind where the city water connection is. I traced down the blue piping, and sure enough right behind the water heater, is a small plastic valve that diverts water from going into the water heater. Gave it a quarter turn and you could hear the water moving into the water heater tank. I crawled out and checked the pressure relief valve and water came pouring out. Back into the unit to run the faucets until all the air was out of the system. I know it's a probably not gonna work, but I turned the electric back on and will see if it's still working in 30 min or so. If not I'll just run off gas for this trip and order a replacement electric element.
Thanks again for your suggestions everyone!!! Now back to relaxing.
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12-22-2017, 08:32 PM
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Great! You found the valve so that will get you hot water....cross your fingers that the element wasn't burned up. If it still works I would buy a replacement to keep on hand because the other one may die at any time.
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12-22-2017, 08:48 PM
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Go to most home improvement store & get the element removal tool, probably cheaper than a socket.
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12-23-2017, 01:02 AM
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That is a little cheaper than my socket.
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