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Old 04-22-2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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Battery disconnect switch. Oh how you deceive me.

I guess I was under the assumption that the battery cut-off switch disconnected the power on the entire rig? I can still operate my slides and power awning with it in the off postion? I Havnt checked to see if the fridge gets cut off or not, but the furnace along with the water pump, waterheater, interior lights, and other items on the command center appear to be cut off from the battery. What would be the purpose of not having it disconnect the 12v power for the entire camper?
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:30 PM   #2
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Is your battery disconnect from the factory? In your case, they probably shouldn’t call it a battery cutoff. I installed mine and if I ever need power, I run up front and flip the switch.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:39 PM   #3
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Tell us how the switch is installed. You should have no power if installed correctly.
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:59 PM   #4
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Yes its from the factory that way. I'll have to look how its wired when it's light outside, it's after dark now. I'm sure I can rewire it easily enough if I decide I want total cut-off but any guesses why it wouldnt be that way already from the factory?
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:18 PM   #5
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Exactly where is your cutoff switch located?? On the Montanas it's in the convenience center, yet the slide pump is wired directly to the battery (through a resettable breaker) in the battery compartment thus not affected by the cutoff switch, not sure about the awing.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:05 AM   #6
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Exactly where is your cutoff switch located?? On the Montanas it's in the convenience center, yet the slide pump is wired directly to the battery (through a resettable breaker) in the battery compartment thus not affected by the cutoff switch, not sure about the awing.
Got a chance to look at it closer and it's set up simular to yours. It's located in the "conveniance center" and when i go into the compartment with the battery I can see they put a multi-tap terminal in there and split the power lead 3 ways, one to the battery disconnect, one to the slide pump, and one looks like it goes somewhere else but it was getting late so I didnt chase it any further. I wonder why they wouldnt make it fully disconnect everything. Easy enough for me to change but why?
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #7
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My Cougar is wired the same way... My guess is that with "remote control" of those items, the easiest way was to route the power for those items away from the 12v output of the converter and conserve wire by routing to the remote panel. In a way it makes some sense; the "object" of the disconnect for most is to remove those battery drains that could ruin a battery during storage conditions. By only killing the power to the converter it affectively removes those ghost drains on the battery, i.e., LP detector, forgotten lights left on inside or in storage bays, etc. Leaving power to those devices controlled by the remote control panel in the forward bay wouldn't drain the battery during storage since they only "consume" when activated and without the remote, only the landing jacks could be activated.

Not that I in anyway agree, but, I see their thinking; personally, if I throw the switch, I'd like it to kill everything...a disconnect should disconnect not restrict operation.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:40 PM   #8
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The items you describe must be reliable to close up camp and get moving. The only reason they do not come from the dc distribution center is for reliability, they are on their own circuit breakers right off the batteries. Every RV I have seen has these items on their own circuits. Having said that I see no reason not to run them thru the disconnect.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:49 PM   #9
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I am right in the middle of installing a Blue Sea battery switch so that I can add a second battery to my system. I pondered some of these issues when deciding how to wire the switch. Much as I understand the reasoning behind leaving the slide power system hot when the battery is switched off, I prefer to have the entire 12 volt system off when the battery switch is set to OFF. That way, if there is a problem, shutting off the batteries will kill the whole system and not just part of it.

My Cougar has the remote control system for the slides and the awning. For me, leaving all that hot with the batteries otherwise shut off doesn't accomplish what I expect a battery switch to do.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:39 AM   #10
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I was told the only reason for the battery disconnect is to disconnect items that would continue to drain your battery if you are in storage. If you want to disconnect everything disconnect the battery by removing the leads. It's just to make storing your camper easier.
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