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09-03-2023, 09:25 AM
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Power issue
I have a 2012 cougar and was outside cooking and plug stopped as well as 1inside. All others work and can only find 1 gfi in the kitchen. Is their only 1 or maybe more help plz
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09-03-2023, 11:27 AM
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Welcome to the forum
Often times there is a GFCI outlet on the bathroom.
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09-03-2023, 11:39 AM
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Did you check your electric box (converter) breaker? On my Montana, I have plugs on different circuits. If one breaker trips, it doesn't take everything down. Check your breaker's, see if on one of them has tripped, especially if using an electric griddle or an electric skillet plugged into the camper.
If this is what you are using, then I suggest you run a separate extension cord from the shore power electric box to your outside electric griddle or electric skillet and do not plug it into the camper. When using a griddle / skillet outside, I always run a separate, independent electric cord this way. My current 50 amp Montana has not been a problem, but my previous 3 - 30 amp travel travel trailers were. Whenever our griddles were plugged in, it was just too much, and one of the breakers always popped.
In my current Montana, I make sure no two appliances are plugged into the same circuit, like 2 skillets, the coffee pot and a skillet, a hair dryer and a coffee pot or toaster. It always trips one of the breakers.
When using ceramic heaters, I'm plugged into 2 different circuits.
Anyway, check that first. I bet that's all that happened.
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09-03-2023, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
Welcome to the forum
Often times there is a GFCI outlet on the bathroom.
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Only 1 in the kitchen nothing in the bathroom.
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09-03-2023, 02:07 PM
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I'm amazed to hear there is no outlet in a rig's bathroom, especially in a Cougar class.
If there is a bathroom outlet, it has to be GFI, by code.
Often the GFI outlet in the bathroom has the reset switch for all of them, including the kitchen.
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09-03-2023, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LHaven
I'm amazed to hear there is no outlet in a rig's bathroom, especially in a Cougar class.
If there is a bathroom outlet, it has to be GFI, by code.
Often the GFI outlet in the bathroom has the reset switch for all of them, including the kitchen.
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My 2014 Cougar High Country had the GFI outlet in the bathroom and it also controlled the kitchen/outside as I recall.
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09-03-2023, 02:28 PM
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What it says
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09-03-2023, 02:31 PM
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Yes kitchen has 1 but only one ive found in the i have found in the trailer
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09-03-2023, 02:42 PM
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Only says gfci protected
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09-03-2023, 02:43 PM
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Yep a fuses and breakers good.
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09-03-2023, 03:17 PM
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"GFCI protected" with no buttons means the buttons are on another outlet, or possibly on a GFCI breaker (though those are rare on RVs). The controlling outlet could be kitchen, bath, outdoor outlet (unusual), outdoor kitchen, toy area, compartment with power, or near an inverter unit.
Also, other outlets could be GFCI protected as well -- it's just a sticker and they have been known to fall off.
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09-03-2023, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Towman
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Apparently, your bathroom outlet is "GFCI Protected" and is not the actual GFCI. That said, have you plugged something (a light for example) into that outet and then tripped the Galley GFCI ??? If that outlet loses power, you'll know it is on the galley GFCI circuit. If it does not lose power, you will have confirmed that there's another GFCI located "somewhere in the RV"....
Checking that will give you a pretty good indication whether your problem may be a "tripped GFCI somewhere else" or whether there is a different problem, likely a loose wire on one of the daisy chained knife connector outlets. Those outlets are known to vibrate loose during travel, causing dead outlets "at every outlet further down the line from the loose connection"...
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09-03-2023, 04:08 PM
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Since it's a 2012 reckon someone has added a gfci breaker in the panel? I've also seen those gfi outlets in the outside outlet and inside the passthrough.
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09-03-2023, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LHaven
"GFCI protected" with no buttons means the buttons are on another outlet, or possibly on a GFCI breaker (though those are rare on RVs). The controlling outlet could be kitchen, bath, outdoor outlet (unusual), outdoor kitchen, toy area, compartment with power, or near an inverter unit.
Also, other outlets could be GFCI protected as well -- it's just a sticker and they have been known to fall off.
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I have only found one and it works plus the bathroom as well.
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09-03-2023, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
Apparently, your bathroom outlet is "GFCI Protected" and is not the actual GFCI. That said, have you plugged something (a light for example) into that outet and then tripped the Galley GFCI ???
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If I'm following this correctly, he hasn't yet even found the GFCI buttons.
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09-03-2023, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LHaven
If I'm following this correctly, he hasn't yet even found the GFCI buttons.
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Yes i have found 1 gfi but they work fine
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09-03-2023, 04:14 PM
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A thought that hasn't been mentioned - a loose connection. The conversation immediately went to gfi controlled outlets but those blade connectors aren't very dependable. Have you pulled them to see if there is a loose wire?
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09-03-2023, 04:16 PM
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I tried looking in the pass through and found nothing and the outside plug does not have a gfi on it.
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09-03-2023, 04:20 PM
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I was cooking but went out like a breaker tripped
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09-03-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Towman
I was cooking but went out like a breaker tripped
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As Sourdough suggested in post 17, your dead outlet MAY be part of the single gfci circuit you’ve found, but your outdoor outlet is dead because a wire has become disconnected on the backside of the dead outlet. A simple 3 light circuit tester may shed more light of the problem by revealing if you have an open neutral rather than a problem with the hot wire. Either way, a look see at the back side of the dead outlet would be worth the time to do so. Because all upstream wiring is a continuous string, it is most likely that the problem is behind the affected outlet.
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