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Old 06-07-2019, 08:19 AM   #41
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Just the other day at a traffic light, a truck pulling a large trailer went across the intersection in front of me. It struck me as very odd that it looked like the axles were smack in the middle of the trailer. Then it occurred to me that some engineer at the factory thought this would be a great way to make a very long trailer have a (minimal) tongue weight that would give people the false sense of security that they can tow more than they should be towing. I think it is more of the trailer design than a TV issue.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:41 AM   #42
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Could that be why the RVIA now mandates a 10% margin on tire capacity?
Our little 2019 225MK Laredo is built like a little brick SH. It has a 8K GVWR, with 4400 axles and came with ST225/75R15D's rated to 2540 each. I sold the Good Rides D's and installed GY Endurance ST225/75R15E's. It also came with Lippert Road Armor equalizer and wet bolts OEM. The trailer was more expensive than most others that size, however that might pay off in the along run. Chris
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:47 AM   #43
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tschott....you just need to dial that WDH in better. Tongue is high in pic and the truck has squat-lol
I have a 2014 F150 Boost MaxTow/Payload Package/4x4 Off Road Pack...and I tow a 38' 9k dry 2018 Keystone Outback TT.
I have No White Knuckle towing here!
I just got back from towing AZ to San Diego-11.1 mpg>5* 87 p/t tune.
In fact I encountered 2 more fellow F150 EcoBoost brothers in aluminum bodied trucks.
Both pulling around 35'ers....loving their 10 speed transmissions.
I have Loadlifter Ultimate 5000's airbags to level things out & a Hellwig rear sway bar>absolutely love them!
A pic below shows the Platinum Boost pulling a Jayco HT 37'.
You don't have to sell your truck?-lol

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Old 06-08-2019, 10:05 AM   #44
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:10 PM   #45
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I took some time and tried 4 different settings with the equalizer hitch and the result was about the same on all the changes I made. The trailer is just so long behind the wheels, the F150 just doesn't have enough weight on the *** to keep it stay. I have talked to a couple vetrains of TT's and they said air bags and more weight in the box might help.....

So, I made a decision. I want a gas truck, I need it to be 4WD here in Minnesota. (for the winters) So I am looking at a 2018 F350 XLT tonight.. It is about the same trim package as my 2015 F150 and the interior looks about the same. It has 30K miles on it and looks to be in nice condition. I know it will handle the trailer and everything I ask of it and more.
What do you all think?
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:17 PM   #46
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You will like it a lot when towing and you sure want have to worry about payload or being over weight.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:18 PM   #47
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I'd hold off for the 7.3 gas v8.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:26 PM   #48
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That truck will put you nicely ahead of the game and you will definately notice a difference.
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:31 PM   #49
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White Knuckle No More

I have a Reese Dual Cam anti-sway and weight distribution system. It acts pro-actively to counter sway real time as it is happening rather than dampening sway after the fact. It cost about the same, and you will say good by to sway problems once you have it installed.

P.S. Get a 2500 Cummins Diesel, and also say good bye to pulling problems.
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Old 06-10-2019, 04:22 PM   #50
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I took some time and tried 4 different settings with the equalizer hitch and the result was about the same on all the changes I made. The trailer is just so long behind the wheels, the F150 just doesn't have enough weight on the *** to keep it stay. I have talked to a couple vetrains of TT's and they said air bags and more weight in the box might help.....

So, I made a decision. I want a gas truck, I need it to be 4WD here in Minnesota. (for the winters) So I am looking at a 2018 F350 XLT tonight.. It is about the same trim package as my 2015 F150 and the interior looks about the same. It has 30K miles on it and looks to be in nice condition. I know it will handle the trailer and everything I ask of it and more.
What do you all think?
Sounds like a good idea given your trailer's setup. That will more than handle your rig and will definitely eliminate the sway. Note you will still want to use your WDH, even with that truck due to your trailer's size.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:39 PM   #51
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Sounds like a smart move to me, going from a 150 to a 350. You'll notice a big difference.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:37 AM   #52
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Tool to help with towing

You can try using this to help determine what your TV can handle. You’ll need to convert it back to Excel, sorry. You can try and message me and I can send it in Excel form.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:55 AM   #53
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Our friend had a very similar situation. He has a 2016 Aluminum Ford 4x4 F-150 with the v6 twin turbo eco boost. He was towing the same size trailer as you and experienced the exact same sway. This truck is TOO light to tow that much weight. He was sold a line of bull by the rv dealer claiming the truck was safe to pull this size trailer. He drove it from Louisville Kentucky to Fort Myers direct to the local dealer and trained the trailer in on a motor home. He toes the F150 behind the motor home now. Be safe get a larger bigger truck if you keep the trailer.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:48 AM   #54
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I have a 2018 Ford Expedition Max with the 3.5 Twin turbo with the heavy duty tow package with integrated brake control rated at 9300 lbs tow capacity... It is about 800-900 lbs heavier than a similar length F-150. I use the Center Line TS 800-1200 weight distribution set up for my Keystone Passport 2900RK which has a GVWR of 7200 which is just ~300lbs above your dry weight. It’s 33.4 feet long vs your 34.9 feet . I can honestly say, I’ve never experienced sway like this with my set up. I usually keep it 65 mph and under on the highway mostly for fuel economy and safety. However, I’ve towed in mountains, across bridge tunnels, in wind, rain and other inclement weather. I’m thinking more set up than truck size. Things like shocks, weight distribution set up, type tires (load range). This is only my experience, I’m always in favor of having more truck than you need but if you don’t need it... I would check the set up first, double check everything. When I upgrade to a toy hauler, it is a diesel 3500 or F350 for me.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:01 AM   #55
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I had a 2015 F150 when my wife decided we should camp again. So I bought a 26' TT and zero problems UNTIL wife wanted to go farther and stay longer. Bought a Cougar 5er and a 2016 F250 diesel in late 2015. Done right? HELL no. Wife said we needed bigger so she decided on a 43' HC which just barely made PW so off I went and bought a 2016 F350. Felt good being done, finally ~~~ until last month when we (actually she) needed a new Montana. Pulled it home and on a 700 mile round trip. Have ordered a new F350 dually she is sure we must have! Promise you I am done now!
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:20 AM   #56
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[QUOTE=CaptnJohn;344579]I had a 2015 F150 when my wife decided we should camp again. So I bought a 26' TT and zero problems UNTIL wife wanted to go farther and stay longer. Bought a Cougar 5er and a 2016 F250 diesel in late 2015. Done right? HELL no. Wife said we needed bigger so she decided on a 43' HC which just barely made PW so off I went and bought a 2016 F350. Felt good being done, finally ~~~ until last month when we (actually she) needed a new Montana. Pulled it home and on a 700 mile round trip. Have ordered a new F350 dually she is sure we must have! Promise you I am done now![/QUOTE]



Hmmm, with that track record I'm not sure I would "promise" myself I was done!!
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:20 AM   #57
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Last September I purchased a 29rld to go with my Silverado 2500 HD 4X4 Z71. I no issues don't realy know that its behind me. I never feel that I can't control it.
If you have to do 57 to feel safe than do it.
Never believe what the dealers tell you about the Tow Ratings.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:02 PM   #58
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Late to the party here but having come from carrying a HEAVY truck camper (3500#) for several years, when SWMBO wanted a 5th wheel I knew that I was going to keep a close eye on weight. I know this is a TT thread, but just my 2 cents about trucks and weight.

Being on the WAY safe side of GVWR now is really great. Having a pin weight of under 1500# while pulling a 5th wheel that is about 8000-8500# with our 3/4T crew gas is a pretty relaxed ride.

Sorry that the OP is in this situation. But it brings to mind the saying "don't bring a knife to a gun fight". I learned. I'd much rather have too much truck than too much trailer.
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Old 06-14-2019, 05:20 AM   #59
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When I was shopping for my latest RV, a heavy "extended stay" 5th wheel the salesperson asked, up front, what my TV was. His rationale was he didn't want me coming back in a couple of weeks complaining the RV was too big for the truck.
Now, I agree there are those sales persons who will shill to make a sale-state that ecoboost F150, hemi-powered 1500, Silverado or Sierra 1500, Tundra or Nissan will pull a 30 foot or so TT or 5th wheel with a couple of slides. Or the RV dealer who will state their product can be safely towed with said trucks or 3/4 tons that are not equipped properly (yes, I had a 3/4 ton with a towing/cargo capacity of today's 1/2 tons).
The advice on this forum is sound regardless of those who think those with the advice are "towing police".
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:43 AM   #60
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Hmmm, with that track record I'm not sure I would "promise" myself I was done!!
Lets, see? They make F450 pickups!!!!!

We bought, on the phone, our 2017 BH3575el (16K GVWR and 39'4" of full high profile 5th wheel) . One of the questions the salesman asked was what do you have for a tow vehicle? I said 2015 RAM 3500 Diesel, 4x4 CC SB SRW with 11,700 GVWR. He said good to go. We had already looked at this model in Arizona and California on our way home to Washington. Guy in California on a Sunday turned down my offer on a 2016, and we called the Oregon dealer while driving up I-5 and made in an offer very close the the California offer, which he excepted. We would have stopped to look at it, however it was over in Klamath Falls at a show. Monday the California guy calls and ask why we did not call back. I said we bought one in Oregon. He said I will take your offer, and I said you are a day late!!!!
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