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Old 07-06-2018, 07:49 PM   #11
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As FJR VFR said; there are schools of thought, that the slide should be supported when traveling. I have never made a lift or stand for either trailer, but a little insurance probably doesn't hurt. Again, make sure you are spreading that load on the surfaces, if you go that route.
Thanks guys for the GREAT information!
I will do some kind of support as my main vacation the past two years and this summer to Takhlakh Lake, nestled just under Mt Adams, 1/3 of it is gravel bumpy road, so support would be good. Here is the last two years of Heaven up there:
http://1-4u-computer-graphics.com/Mt...hLake-2017.htm

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Old 07-07-2018, 05:39 PM   #12
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You know the support also serves for when you are using the bed while retracted. We traveled cross country with our trailer and stayed some nights at Walmart, so the extra support supported us and our climbing in and out of bed. We also stopped at times during the day at rest stops and took naps.
Check out the Outback forum and you will find examples of different home made supports.
Btw, that's a really nice looking place to camp.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:54 PM   #13
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You know the support also serves for when you are using the bed while retracted. We traveled cross country with our trailer and stayed some nights at Walmart, so the extra support supported us and our climbing in and out of bed. We also stopped at times during the day at rest stops and took naps.
Check out the Outback forum and you will find examples of different home made supports.
Btw, that's a really nice looking place to camp.
Can you give me some links on those, maybe on fixing my current problem?
I just made a post over there:
https://www.outbackers.com/forums/in...howtopic=59009

Takhlakh Lake is heaven on earth. I look forward to that vacation all year long. I went to 6 different mountain lakes last year too, but none compare to that one.
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:27 PM   #14
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I too thought your issue was taken care of? Here are a couple links. I just did a search for "bed support" and got tons of links. Hope this helps.



https://www.outbackers.com/forums/in...bed%20+support


https://www.outbackers.com/forums/in...&fromMainBar=1
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:10 PM   #15
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I too thought your issue was taken care of? Here are a couple links. I just did a search for "bed support" and got tons of links. Hope this helps.
That answered the future bed support questions.

My current Problem is different and subject of this post.
The bed came off the rollers in the ceiling rack. If you look at the 1st attached photo, that is what it looks like when it apparently came off the track, (both sides) I'm trying to figure out how to get it back on the track. It is heavy so will take a jack to get it up there, then if you look at the second pic the bed will have to move slightly to the side to get the rod into the slot, then over where it's supposed to be. 3rd pic, facing the bed, the right side is about 6" or so from the bathroom wall and I won't be able to see what I'm doing there? I'm hoping I can do it by pulling the bed out part way and putting it in that way? I'm assuming I should put a plywood board on the floor for the jack, then a 4x4 on the top of jack below the bed ridge.

Any tips on doing this right? I have a strong relative coming to help me this Thursday, so any help is appreciated.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:48 PM   #16
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That answered the future bed support questions.

My current Problem is different and subject of this post.
The bed came off the rollers in the ceiling rack. If you look at the 1st attached photo, that is what it looks like when it apparently came off the track, (both sides) I'm trying to figure out how to get it back on the track. It is heavy so will take a jack to get it up there, then if you look at the second pic the bed will have to move slightly to the side to get the rod into the slot, then over where it's supposed to be. 3rd pic, facing the bed, the right side is about 6" or so from the bathroom wall and I won't be able to see what I'm doing there? I'm hoping I can do it by pulling the bed out part way and putting it in that way? I'm assuming I should put a plywood board on the floor for the jack, then a 4x4 on the top of jack below the bed ridge.

Any tips on doing this right? I have a strong relative coming to help me this Thursday, so any help is appreciated.
I am no expert, but I have been pretty much where you are now with my Surveyor. http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...nce-72799.html

All you need to do is get the two back to the connection point with the trolley in the track. You have several options. Do that with a jack and some material to spread the load, You could move the slide out to a point where you can lift it to that level. It is basically a boxed lever on a fulcrum, at some point. You could move the slide out far enough where the weight outside makes it contact the trolley fully. Some combination of all of these. . . or Finally, you could take it to a good RV shop.

This depends on your slide type (manual or electric), personal skills, comfort level, available assistance and pocketbook. I assure you, a reasonably skilled adult and a 15 year old assistant can reconnect them. I replaced a trolley just by moving it out about 2/3 and it sat right where I could attach it. IIRC, there was no weight in the trolley at full extension.


I still recommend that inexpensive bent wrench. I know it helped me after I broke down and had one sent. I thought of torching an old junk wrench to that angle, but every one I had was too thick to easily tighten the nuts.
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:15 AM   #17
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Two more questions:

1. When are the rollers supposed to be locked?
When bed is in and traveling or when bed is out camping?
See pic of roller attached.

2.I did also notice that both of my trolleys are sitting exactly the same in that the trolley left sides have the single wheel and the right sides have the double wheels.
Looking from the front to the rear mine has double wheels on the left and single on the right.... both tracks.

I'm thinking to swap the wheel positions (180 degrees) when I had the trolley off so the both sides now have the two wheels towards their respective outside wall. Thoughts?
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:18 PM   #18
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Two more questions:

1. When are the rollers supposed to be locked?
When bed is in and traveling or when bed is out camping?
See pic of roller attached.
That lever/lock on the trolley should always be locked, if they are like both of mine have been. That is only to remove the trolley from the track and slide.

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2.I did also notice that both of my trolleys are sitting exactly the same in that the trolley left sides have the single wheel and the right sides have the double wheels.
Looking from the front to the rear mine has double wheels on the left and single on the right.... both tracks.
That looks like a quote from my old thread Yes, I made mine a mirror image. IIRC, with the double wheels towards the trailer side wall.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:41 PM   #19
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That lever/lock on the trolley should always be locked, if they are like both of mine have been. That is only to remove the trolley from the track and slide.

That looks like a quote from my old thread Yes, I made mine a mirror image. IIRC, with the double wheels towards the trailer side wall.
Hahaha! Yes I did... you said it better than I could. Anyways, how did that work out? Is there any particular reason why it was the other way, same on both sides?

Any idea how hard it is to put them the bed back up on the rollers? It has to go in from the side about an inch? My brother in law is going to help me tomorrow.
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:38 PM   #20
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That lever/lock on the trolley should always be locked, if they are like both of mine have been. That is only to remove the trolley from the track and slide.

That looks like a quote from my old thread Yes, I made mine a mirror image. IIRC, with the double wheels towards the trailer side wall.
I went to the RV place where I bought my Outback 18RS to get two levels as I discovered there were none on there when I went camping last week.

I asked some questions about my slider roller that I took with me and he confirmed that both of your quotes above were correct. So I don't know why some here said their double wheels were both the same, instead of each facing the trailer side walls. They should always be locked. He also said it was OK to pull the bed out so I could attached the wheels easier.

My brother in law will be here in an hour and we'll go get it done.
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