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Old 10-20-2011, 04:04 PM   #21
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Am I missing something? In one of my earlier posts, I said I'm looking at the Silverado HD2500 equipped like your Denali. Are you saying this is still too light a truck for a 7500 lb trailer?
SORRY, I missed that post, I thought you were sticking with the half ton no matter what. Sometime I read to fast, again, sorry. I get a little upset with people pulling with the WRONG equiptment as I could be the guy behind you when the "wheels come off" & I crash also. I've been RVing for most of my life (off & on) & my feeling is if you're not willing to do it wright, don't do it!
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:02 AM   #22
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If you want to stay with a 1/2 ton, I suggest you look at the Ford F-150 with the EcoBoost. Go over to the Ford truck forum, they have a whole section dedicated tp the 3.5L EcoBoost: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum262/

With the HD payload package, it's rated to pull 11,300bs, yet they're seeing real world MPG 23-25 highway when not towing

After researching, this is what I'm getting once we decide what TT to get.
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:43 PM   #23
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I've heard stories of people getting VERY poor mileage towing with the turbocharged V6. I would think that with any load at all, you'd be running high boost to keep it all moving.

Alas, I opted for a big-boy truck. Bought a Silverado 2500 with the Duramax Diesel and Allison transmission. It wasn't that much more expensive and it's a lot more capable than a 1/2 ton truck.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:50 PM   #24
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Enjoy your new Silverado, you won't be sorry, in fact you well be VERY HAPPY!
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:54 PM   #25
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Remember those numbers should be GVWR, not the dry weight. Lately, it seems that some RV dealers are talking just dry weight and ignoring anything you might put into a TT or TV, including the people.

One other thought... While "1/2 ton" pickups are rated to pull some large weights these days, the manufacturers have not increased the actual payload of the trucks that much. I just posted this a few days ago in response to someone else's inquiry: "I just looked up Chevy's rating for a 1500 ton long bed. They rate the payload at 1,600#. For a 2500, the payload jumps to 3,400#." And the 3500 is rated over 4,500#.

Now, what does this have to do with TT's as opposed to fivers? Well, a lot, actually. Generally speaking, the longer and heavier TT's (GVWR) have heavy tongue weights. My old Sunline (5,500# GVWR) had a tongue weight over 800#. It is not at all unusual to see tongue weights well over 1,000 pounds.

So, back to the 1/2 ton trucks with load ratings of 1,600#. Your weight distributing hitch system doesn't remove weight, it just shifts it forward so that the front axle is carrying some of the added load and some of the tongue weight is pushed back to the TT axles. But, that 1,000+ pounds of tongue weight is still there and a bunch of it is on the TV's front and rear axles.

Add in a couple of adults, some extra camping gear in the bed of the truck, and maybe the family dog and you are right up at that 1,600# max payload. Even though the truck might be rated to pull much more than the trailer weighs, the actual weight load capacity of the truck is reached or exceeded.

3/4 and 1 ton trucks have much beefier suspensions, axles, wheels, tires, and frames. This is what earns them the larger payload ratings.

With so many TT's on the market with 7,800# GVWR ratings or higher, it is pretty easy to see why so many of us have moved to the larger capacity pickups.
Amen. Thanks you saved me a bunch of typing.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:58 PM   #26
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Am I missing something? In one of my earlier posts, I said I'm looking at the Silverado HD2500 equipped like your Denali. Are you saying this is still too light a truck for a 7500 lb trailer?
One tidbit, I would strongly recommend considering the 4:10 axle on the 2500 with 6.0 gas.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:01 PM   #27
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Poster's question asked and answered

Wincrasher, the original poster of this thread, asked about towing a 30-32 ft Passport or Outback with a light duty PU truck. He has subsequently purchased a "big boy" (wincrasher's words) truck ---- a Silverado 2500 Duramax diesel with the help of your input.
Thank you to all of the members who contributed their advice and suggestions to wincrasher which ultimately enabled him to make a more informed and knowledgeable decision.
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